Time to Cancel Your Disney+- Page 2

[kdogg36]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 5:08pm

binau said: "The way I'd characterise it is more "think through the logical consequences of your behaviour and what outcomes it is likely to achieve, and then ask yourself is that outcome likely to be better or worse than the current position. If worse off, are there perhaps alternatives?""

I blame a lot of the mess we're in now on a failure to punish the Bush administration and definitively turn away from its crimes. Instead, Obama chose to speak of reconciliation and to continue the worst excesses of the previous administration (lifetime imprisonment without trial, drone murders, interminable unwinnable war, global military occupation). An example needed to be set to make sure an out-of-control executive didn't do horrible things ever again - well, if not ever again, then in the foreseeable future.

My point being: unless you can only see a year or two ahead, under-reacting to Trump's abominations is a far bigger risk than over-reacting.

Updated On: 9/19/25 at 05:08 PM

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 5:10pm

John Adams said: "Idiot said: "Bob Iger made this decision."

Nexstar made this decision."

They didn't. It was their choice as an affiliate to not air Kimmel. That would not hurt Disney by not doing it, it would only hurt them. The ad space would become less valuable being aired alongside old syndicated sitcoms. Disney should have called their bluff instead folding like a wet newspaper. 

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John Adams said: "I agree that The Disney Corporation will not crumble, but if the streaming service goes away, so will access to shows like (not an all-inclusive list):

• Good Morning America: The beloved morning show featuring news, interviews, and lifestyle segments with hosts Robin Roberts, George Stephanopoulos, and Michael Strahan.
• Nightline: The late-night news program delivering in-depth reporting on global events and human-interest stories, anchored by Byron Pitts and Juju Chang.
• This Week with George Stephanopoulos: A Sunday morning staple offering political analysis, interviews with newsmakers, and roundtable discussions.
• Impact x Nightline: A streaming-exclusive series from ABC News providing investigative journalism and deep dives into pressing issues.
• World News Tonight with David Muir: The flagship evening newscast, led by anchor David Muir, delivering comprehensive coverage of national and international news.
• Prime with Linsey Davis: ABC News Live’s Emmy-winning streaming newscast, hosted by Linsey Davis, focusing on breaking news and key stories.
• 20/20: The long-running investigative journalism program exploring true crime, human interest, and high-profile cases.

"

You need to stop asking Chat GPT to write your responses because you certainly did not write this. You know full well none of those shows (with the exception of one) air initially on streaming. They are ABC Network programs. 

[kdogg36]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 5:13pm

John Adams said: "I agree that The Disney Corporation will not crumble, but if the streaming service goes away, so will access to shows like (not an all-inclusive list):"

20/20 has basically been trash TV for a decade or more, but I agree with your general point.

[Idiot]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 5:52pm

John Adams said: "Idiot said: "Bob Iger made this decision."

Nexstar made this decision."

100% wrong.  Bob Iger made this decision.  He did not have to, regardless of Nextstar's decision to preempt Kimmel.  Bob Iger made this decision and that's a fact.

[John Adams]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 5:53pm

TheatreFan4 said: "You need to stop asking Chat GPT to write your responses because you certainly did not write this. You know full well none of those shows (with the exception of one) air initially on streaming. They are ABC Network programs."

I wrote my response. Although they are network programs, I access the majority of my TV viewing via streaming. For me, the cost of streaming services (a couple of which are free "perks" of having my grocery delivery subscription) is much more cost effective than paying for cable.

For those who are choosing to CXL your Disney/HULU subscription, what do you think or want the end result to be?

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:04pm

John Adams said: "I wrote my response. Although they are network programs, I access the majority of my TV viewing via streaming. For me, the cost of streaming services (a couple of which are free "perks" of having my grocery delivery subscription) is much more cost effective than paying for cable.

For those who are choosing to CXL your Disney/HULU subscription, what do you think or want the end result to be?"

So you wrote and formatted that list of programs that sounds like an AI read out? I have significant doubts.

The hope would be for Disney to stop bending the knee to this man and actually have him take **** yo court. Push back and stop being little bitches.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:07pm

100% wrong. Bob Iger made this decision. He did not have to, regardless of Nextstar's decision to preempt Kimmel. Bob Iger made this decision and that's a fact."

Correct

[John Adams]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:13pm

TheatreFan4 said: "So you wrote and formatted that list of programs that sounds like an AI read out? I have significant doubts."

First, thanks for your response to the question (appreciated).

RE: you wrote and formatted that list of programs, Nooooo. Of course not. It's a copy/paste from here

[Idiot]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:14pm

John Adams said: "For those who are choosing to CXL your Disney/HULU subscription, what do you think or want the end result to be?"

Corporations of this size make decisions with a calculator, rather than the head, heart or loyalty to the country.  The only way for me, a private citizen, to register my revulsion directly with them is to withdraw the only thing they care about: my money.  Guaranteed they get those results in real time.

Prediction: Kimmel will be back on the air next week (if he accepts it).  It will not be solely because of boycotts - but they help. 

[John Adams]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:27pm

Sutton Ross said: "100% wrong. Bob Iger made this decision. He did not have to, regardless of Nextstar's decision to preempt Kimmel. Bob Iger made this decision and that's a fact."

Correct"

I guess it depends on your source. (from FORBES: Nexstar Will Pull ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’), 

Deadline also credits Nexstar, as well as Newsweek, and others.

[John Adams]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:33pm

Idiot said: "The only way for me, a private citizen, to register my revulsion directly with them is to withdraw the only thing they care about: my money. Guaranteed they get those results in real time."

Thanks for your response! (appreciated)

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:34pm

John Adams said: "Sutton Ross said: "100% wrong. Bob Iger made this decision. He did not have to, regardless of Nextstar's decision to preempt Kimmel. Bob Iger made this decision and that's a fact."

Correct"

I guess it depends on your source. (from FORBES: Nexstar Will Pull ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’),

Deadline also credits Nexstar, as well as Newsweek, and others."

They literally do not have the power to do so. They only control the affiliates they own. They told Disney to take him off the air entirely, which they capitulated on. They had literally no leverage on Disney and Disney did it anyway because they have no backbone and have conceded in everything Trump has wanted. Like settling his law suit against ABC News so save some money.

[Idiot]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:39pm

John Adams said: "Sutton Ross said: "100% wrong. Bob Iger made this decision. He did not have to, regardless of Nextstar's decision to preempt Kimmel. Bob Iger made this decision and that's a fact."

Correct"

I guess it depends on your source. (from FORBES: Nexstar Will Pull ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’),

Deadline also credits Nexstar, as well as Newsweek, and others."

Ah.  I see how that can be confusing.  Nextstar owns TV stations.  They threatened to preempt the show (meaning air something else) in certain markets (think: cities).  They don't have the power to pull the show nationwide because they don't control all of the affiliate stations. 

That's what Bob Iger / Disney did by pulling the show altogether. 

[joevitus]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:41pm

I am generally not a "cancel your subscription in protest" person, I don't think enough people participate in such things to make them effective, and I don't actually have Disney+, so I don't really feel comfortable telling other people what they should give up.

But this situation rings differently to me from Bezos silencing the Post's endorsement of Kamala or Zuckerberg removing DEI initiatives at Meta. This is a blatant exercise in crushing free speech that can't be excused away as a greedy businessman currying favor acting on their own. This is the president telling the goverment to target someone for the sin of criticizing him (and he's started making similar threats to reporters--that Australian journalist who pointed out his hypocrisy)--and the goverment complying. 

So you have to fight how you can fight. I think people in L.A. will put immense pressure on Disney to reinstate Kimmel--and that's good. I think a sizable minority of people cancelling their Disney+ subscriptions will tell them what this is doing to their brand--and that's good. I think protests in front of both Disney and the FCC wil prevent this from being an easy win that everyone just goes along with--and that's good. But most importantly, I think all the attention and news stories all these activties will generate will help turn enough people against the Republicans--or at least inspire more people who sat out the Presidential to show up to the polls for the mid-terms--and that's best of all. 

[John Adams]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:43pm

TheatreFan4 said: "They literally do not have the power to do so. They only control the affiliates they own."

Yes, but... Are you factoring in the threat Carr made to Nexstar re: pulling the licenses? ("We can do this the easy way, or the hard way")

 

[John Adams]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:48pm

Idiot said: " They don't have the power to pull the show nationwide because they don't control all of the affiliate stations."

I'm really stuck on Carr's threat to pull the broadcasting licenses. What do you feel I am missing?

 

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:48pm

John Adams said: "TheatreFan4 said: "They literally do not have the power to do so. They only control the affiliates they own."

Yes, but... Are you factoring in the threat Carr made to Nexstar re: pulling the licenses?("We can do this the easy way, or the hard way")

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Which is exactly what I said, fight it in court. You cannot give them what they want because they say so. That's how you ended up with the head of the fcc threatening licenses. Because you folded before and you folded now. You think this where it ends? This is where it begins.

[John Adams]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 6:55pm

TheatreFan4 said: ""

Which is exactly what I said, fight it in court."

Kimmel's show was suspended immediately.

He'd be an absolute idiot to do so immediately (re: pulling licenses), but do you feel like there was adequate time for a lawsuit to make its way through the court system before  Carr pulled the licenses?

PS: I'm logging off for the night, so if I don't respond, that's why (this whole situation is exhausting!)
 

Updated On: 9/19/25 at 06:55 PM

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 7:01pm

John Adams said: "TheatreFan4 said: ""

Which is exactly what I said, fight it in court."

Kimmel's show was suspendedimmediately.

He'd be an absolute idiot to do so immediately (re: pulling licenses), but do you feel like there was adequate time for a lawsuit to make its way through the court systembeforeCarr pulled the licenses?

"

No, what i expected them to do is call his bluff and not pull Kimmel. If Carr then elected to pull the license, then Disney files a law suit which would cause an injunction to put the pulling of the license on hold until the law suit has made its way through court. Disney was in exactly zero immediate harm to their business by standing up to them. 

[darquegk]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 7:20pm

What I'm really curious about here is, what's phase two of this plan? Let's say, as people have predicted, Kimmel is back on the air by the end of the month. As he should be. But what happens on both sides?

First, is the boycott lifted, or do people say "they showed us what they are, why stop the wheels when we can take out the engine of corporate media once and for all?" Second, now that the FCC and the president have both basically said "this time it's personal," do they pull broadcasting licenses after all? Do they arrest and detain Kimmel as a "nihilistic enemy of the state" under the new guideline for anti-state activity that got rolled out today? Or do they just lick their wounds and seethe about it?

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 8:32pm

Big news for The Lion King on Broadway 

“I'm. So. Upset. Didn't always agree but appreciated some perspectives. What a heartbreak. His young hyenas. I know where he is now. Heaven. But still”

[Idiot]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 9:46pm

darquegk said: "First, is the boycott lifted,"

I would re-subscribe because (1) it reinforces the purpose of the boycott to acknowledge a correction and (2) it's my favorite streaming service. 

[Robbie2]

Posted: 9/20/25 at 12:37am

We won't be canceling our Disney+

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 9/20/25 at 12:58am

Trendfeed: Disney & ABC are BEGGING Americans for Forgiveness After Subscriptions Plummet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSx_AVpOPXU

[Jonathan Cohen]

Posted: 9/20/25 at 1:24am

Wayman_Wong said: "Trendfeed: Disney & ABC are BEGGING Americans for Forgiveness After Subscriptions Plummet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSx_AVpOPXU"

This video is spreading inaccurate information. Jimmy Kimmel has not filed a billion dollar lawsuit against ABC and Nextstar, there's just public speculation that he might. Also that millions of people have dropped their Hulu, Disney+, ESPN, etc. is conjecture presented as fact. There's no actual reporting yet quantifying cancelations.