Why not?! Spread more hate and division in our country. I thought the Libs were supposed to be respectful of different views and inclusive?
Oh wait, you’d rather spread more hate. I can’t wait for the Karma to hit again!
kdogg36 said: "My point being: unless you can only see a year or two ahead, under-reacting to Trump's abominations is a far bigger risk than over-reacting."
Admittedly, I'm choosing to err on the side of "over-reaction" with the caveat that although I favor boycotts of advertising sponsors, the parks, movies in cinemas, etc., I still believe that in the times, it is not a good idea to act in a way that might result in CXLing/silencing any media outlet like Disney+/HULU.
Jonathan Cohen said: "This video is spreading inaccurate information. Jimmy Kimmel has not filed a billion dollar lawsuit against ABC and Nextstar, there's just public speculation that he might. Also that millions of people have dropped their Hulu, Disney+, ESPN, etc. is conjecture presented as fact. There's no actual reporting yet quantifying cancelations."
I agree.
TheatreFan4 said: "If Carr then elected to pull the license, then Disney files a law suit which would cause an injunction to put the pulling of the license on hold until the law suit has made its way through court. Disney was in exactly zero immediate harm to their business by standing up to them."
I'm not a lawyer, so I can't confirm how long it would take to both issue and enact an injunction. From what I can glean from both the online sources I've searched (like this one), and DuckDuckGo's AI summary (yes, I DID use AI in this instance), an injunction can take anywhere between a couple of hours to weeks, or months. AI search result:
A temporary restraining order (TRO) can be issued within hours or days in urgent situations, while a full injunction may take weeks or months, depending on the case and court schedule.
I have doubts that if Carr followed through on his Trump-backed threat to pull broadcasting licenses, there would not have been consequences of dead-air blackouts effecting an entire network (as opposed to the airing of a single show), or possible fines for broadcasting without a license.
RE: where to point the finger of blame for suspending Kimmel's show, I'm now more confident in assigning blame to both Iger (Disney) AND Nexstar/Sinclair.
This article from CNN (posted 16 hrs ago, at the time of this writing) sheds some light on how effective Carr's threats may or may not be.
Social media is reporting Disney has lost four billion dollars because of this. I’d love an official report to know if that’s actually true.
TotallyEffed said: "Social media is reporting Disney has lost four billion dollars because of this. I’d love an official report to know if that’s actually true."
This may sound "snarky" (that's not my intent), but can you be more specific re: "Social media"?
TotallyEffed said: "Twitter"
Thanks! I completely agree with you re: "I’d love an official report to know if that’s actually true."
Time will tell.
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Publicly available numbers for any loss right now would likely be from a decline in stock price. This is what happened to Disney stock this week:
Ask Google AI and it says:
"Disney's market capitalization declined by approximately $5.5 billion this week, falling from roughly $210.04 billion on Monday, September 15, to approximately $204.53 billion by Friday, September 19. The decline was primarily driven by a roughly 2.6% drop in the stock price during the same period."
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Keep it up, folks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/1nlpcm4/sinclairs_abc_stations_back_out_of_airing_charlie/
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The issues here are much, much bigger than Jimmy Kimmel and the Donald Trump revenge tour. The ultimate goal of insidious ultra right wing media groups like Nexstar and Sinclair (virtually the same thing) is to control content on ALL broadcast media by leveraging their control of affiliates. Any content that doesn't align with the extreme right wing agenda of Nexstar will disappear from the airwaves. Trump has already hinted that there is a plan in place to take down Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers at NBC, and I suspect that he has his sights set on SNL as well. As long as the existing broadcast infrastructure remains in place, no one to the left of Atilla the Hun is safe. The only way to combat this is for the networks to transition away from reliance on affiliates and the use of the public air waves. The ultimate goal of the networks should be to position themselves outside the control of the FCC by moving to cable and streaming services, and in the process, taking away access to content from the dirtbags at Nexstar.
Its really not realistic of them to rearrange themselves into a situation where the FCC is no longer a factor, especially in the short term of the next few years. All they can do is push back because the tactics and reasoning behind the FCC's actions are pretty illegal. The problem is that they've been refusing to let that play out and just agreeing to do what they want without a fight.
Here's a reminder of how this bloated megacorporation treated the family of a park visitor who died from a food allergy at one of their restaurants in DisneyWorld: Disney Backs Down From Effort to Use Disney+ Agreement to Block Lawsuit.
"Disney’s request was met with swift backlash last week, after news outlets reported on the company’s claim that Dr. Tangsuan’s husband, Jeffrey Piccolo, had agreed to arbitration when he signed up for a free trial of the streaming service Disney+ and was therefore not eligible to sue."
Keep calling them out and canceling those subscriptions, folks. They value their reputation. Their megalomaniacal CEO, Bob Iger, is obsessed with his. Just read his memoir.
MemorableUserName said: "Keep it up, folks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/1nlpcm4/sinclairs_abc_stations_back_out_of_airing_charlie/
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Good, perhaps they don't want to pay out any more settlements to former employees who successfully call them on their racism.
https://www.eeoc.gov/newsroom/sinclair-broadcast-group-pay-100000-race-discrimination-case
TheatreFan4 said: "Its really not realistic of them to rearrange themselves into a situation where the FCC is no longer a factor, especially in the short term of the next few years. All they can do is push back because the tactics and reasoning behind the FCC's actions are pretty illegal. The problem is that they've been refusing to let that play out and just agreeing to do what they want without a fight."
A federal judge just yesterday threw out a $15 billion lawsuit Trump filed against The New York Times, for it being ‘decidedly improper and impermissible’.
Disney can win a legal battle with Brendan Carr and the FCC, but being at war with the current administration, at least two of their own affiliate groups, and about one third of adults (the number of registered voters who identify as MAGA), is a situation Disney wants to avoid.
I 100% think Disney should fight, but it's more complicated for them than the NY Times, who doesn't have affiliate TV stations to worry about, or the MAGA base as subscribers.
No matter what Disney does, it will piss off a large portion of the country and hurt its bottom line, so it should at least pick the morally correct option and fight. Trump and his goons will take any surrender as a victory and an invitation to keep pushing forward.
Kad said: "No matter what Disney does, it will piss off a large portion of the country and hurt its bottom line"
Jonathan Cohen said: "I 100% think Disney should fight, but it's more complicated for them than the NY Times, who doesn't have affiliate TV stations to worry about, or the MAGA base as subscribers."
I agree with both of you.
I wonder if those folks that so proudly CXLed their Disney+ subscriptions also CXLed their ESPN subscriptions amidst the current football season? If they did, they haven't mentioned it.
I think it's time for those of who care about freedom in America to mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor to do whatever it takes to remove Trump from power as soon as possible.
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I wonder if those folks that so proudly CXLed their Disney+ subscriptions also CXLed their ESPN subscriptions amidst the current football season? If they did, they haven't mentioned it."
This is kind of what makes boycotting these megacorps kind of a hard fight- they control a lot. Disney today now includes ABC, ESPN, Marvel, LucasFilm, 20th Century, National Geographic, and Hulu, on top of the theme parks, theatrical productions, cruises, and vast movie, television, and music catalogs and whatever else. However, the point of these boycotts isn't necessarily purity, it's to send a message. The number of Disney+ subscriptions suddenly tanking is meaningful, even if it won't really "hurt" the company because it has so many other revenue streams (to say nothing of the fact that many streaming services are included in bundles with wireless plans or other things and are already paid for).
Kad said: "However, the point of these boycotts isn't necessarily purity, it's to send a message. The number of Disney+ subscriptions suddenly tanking is meaningful, even if it won't really "hurt" the company because it has so many other revenue streams (to say nothing of the fact that many streaming services are included in bundles with wireless plans or other things and are already paid for)."
Also, agreed. Because of what you point out, I think it's very important that people CXL or boycott much more mindfully, as opposed to jumping on a bandwagon (which appears to be the case).
There's a bigger, and more complicated picture to be seen.
In these times, under this administration, why would anyone jeopardize silencing news media (which Disney+/Hulu provide) when there are other options (i.e., advertising, parks, cinema, etc...) that could equally accomplish the goal of "send a message"? (or even, although more vindictive than altruistic, hurt their profit)
kdogg36 said: "I think it's time for those of who care about freedom in America to mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor to do whatever it takes to remove Trump from power as soon as possible."
I agree. Removing Trump is a difficult task, however.
One place to begin is by being in contact with local state representatives, either via email, or in person. My rep's office is conveniently located one town over, so I have been able to do both on multiple occasions.
If anyone needs a specific cause as a jumping off place to begin a conversation, consider this;
Yesterday (Friday, 9/19), Trump signed a proclamation that will require a $100,000 annual visa fee for highly-skilled foreign workers and rolled out a $1 million “gold card” visa as a pathway to U.S. citizenship for wealthy individuals, moves that face near-certain legal challenges amid widespread criticism he is sidestepping Congress. (https://apnews.com/article/h1b-visa-trump-immigration-8d39699d0b2de3d90936f8076357254e)
Not only is he now officially selling US citizenship (he only talked about the possibility, previously), but he's making it immensely more difficult to obtain an HB-1 visa to work in the US. (the previous fee for an HB-1 visa was $215).
For those who aren't aware, H-1B visas, which require at least a bachelor’s degree, are meant for high-skilled jobs that tech companies find difficult to fill.
To all the people who are suddenly rioting, what were your actions after the much more serious cancellation of a person (who was slaughtered) last week? What actions did you organize then? Where were your passionate pleas for free speech then? Which organizations did you try to cancel then? Why are you suddenly coming out of your grotto now when a celebrity is being taught a lesson about this problem?
Seb28 said: "To all the people who are suddenly rioting,what were your actions after the much more serious cancellation of a person (who was slaughtered) last week? What actions did you organize then? Where were your passionate pleas for free speech then? Which organizations did you try to cancel then? Why are you suddenly coming out of your grotto now when a celebrity is being taught a lesson about this problem?"
Calls for Gun Control Measures and Increased Mental Health Funding/Resources have been the drum beat for two literal decades. What are you talking about?
These are two entirely different issues and we are talking about this one.
TotallyEffed said: "Social media is reporting Disney has lost four billion dollars because of this. I’d love an official report to know if that’s actually true."
I'm guessing only Disney could provide that, and they sure aren't going to. But how I hope it's true and causes them to re-think their actions/bring Kimmel back.
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