Universal's WICKED Films - News & Discussion Thread
ElephantLoveMedley
Broadway Star Joined: 10/14/21
#400Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/2/21 at 2:49pm
bwayobsessed said: "My first thought was Ali as well but the more I thought about it, even though Elphaba is green, with the casting of Cynthia Erivo I think it would be pretty odd if her family was white."
This is maybe the silliest thing I've ever read on these boards.
pmensky
Broadway Star Joined: 7/18/11
#401Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/2/21 at 2:59pm
ElephantLoveMedley said: "bwayobsessed said: "My first thought was Ali as well but the more I thought about it, even though Elphaba is green, with the casting of Cynthia Erivo I think it would be pretty odd if her family was white."
This is maybe the silliest thing I've ever read on these boards."
That is not silly at all. Color blind casting is one thing, but having a black actor playing a character who is discriminated against for the color of her skin and casting the rest of her family as white is another. Elphaba is a black woman. Her free skin is a birth defect, not a race. At least one of her parents should be portrayed by a black actor.
fosterfan2
Broadway Star Joined: 8/7/11
#402Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/2/21 at 3:03pm
And Nessa and Elphaba don't even have the same biological father. Elphaba's father is the Wizard and Nessa's father is Frex,as he's called in the novel. So it wouldn't matter what the actresses look like.
Updated On: 12/2/21 at 03:03 PM
bwayobsessed
Broadway Star Joined: 5/28/13
#403Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/3/21 at 6:59am
fosterfan2 said: "And Nessa and Elphaba don't even have the same biological father. Elphaba's father is the Wizard and Nessa's father is Frex,as he's called in the novel. So it wouldn't matter what the actresses look like."
Right like if the Wizard were a black actor and Elphaba’s mother was a white actor it could still make sense for Nessa to be white. I just think then Elphaba’s father might have some serious paternity doubts which might be reading into it too much.
I could see them going with a colorblind Brandy’s Cinderella-esque approach I just find the color conscious approach more interesting of a choice.
#404Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/3/21 at 11:15am
fosterfan2 said: "And Nessa and Elphaba don't even have the same biological father. Elphaba's father is the Wizard and Nessa's father is Frex,as he's called in the novel. So it wouldn't matter what the actresses look like."
In the book it’s strongly implied that Nessarose’s father is actually Turtleheart and that the only biological child of Frex is Shell.
Defying_Reality
Swing Joined: 10/15/21
#405Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/7/21 at 8:29pm
soulmistin said: "As both an employee of the show and a fan, this casting makes me want to stab myself in the eyeballs preemptively."
Finally, someone else who isn't impressed.
fosterfan2
Broadway Star Joined: 8/7/11
#406Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/7/21 at 9:47pm
Defying_Reality said: "soulmistin said: "As both an employee of the show and a fan, this casting makes me want to stab myself in the eyeballs preemptively."
Finally, someone else who isn't impressed."
That makes 3 of us.
hearthemsing22
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/14/20
#407Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/7/21 at 10:35pm
fosterfan2 said: "Defying_Reality said: "soulmistin said: "As both an employee of the show and a fan, this casting makes me want to stab myself in the eyeballs preemptively."
Finally, someone else who isn't impressed."
That makes 3 of us.
"
I’m sorry-is this person implying they’re an employee of the movie company so they know what the actors are like in the roles already? Then they must have a time machine because filming isn’t scheduled to start until next spring as far as I’ve heard. How dare you judge before you even see actors in a role?
#408Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/8/21 at 12:27am
hearthemsing22 said: "fosterfan2 said: "Defying_Reality said: "soulmistin said: "As both an employee of the show and a fan, this casting makes me want to stab myself in the eyeballs preemptively."
Finally, someone else who isn't impressed."
That makes 3 of us.
"
I’m sorry-is this person implying they’re an employee of the movie company so they know what the actors are like in the roles already? Then they must have a time machine because filming isn’t scheduled to start until next spring as far as I’ve heard. How dare you judge before you even see actors in a role?"
I’m not an employee of the movie company, I’m an employee of the Broadway production of the show. I don’t know what the performances will be, but that doesn’t change that this casting is illogical, especially together.
hearthemsing22
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/14/20
#409Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/8/21 at 6:26pm
Then don’t see it, and other people who aren’t judge mental jerks will see the movie and actually give them a friggin’ chance :) Go ahead and say it’s “illogical” but until you see the actual MOVIE, as this is the MOVIE and not the Broadway show, you can’t judge anything. :)
don’t you dare say I’m overreacting. I’m not :)
#410Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/8/21 at 7:24pm
hearthemsing22 said: "Then don’t see it, and other people who aren’t judge mental jerks will see the movie and actually give them a friggin’ chance :) Go ahead and say it’s “illogical” but until you see the actual MOVIE, as this is the MOVIE and not the Broadway show, you can’t judge anything. :)
don’t you dare say I’m overreacting. I’m not :)"
Why are you being so aggressive? You’re already reacting to an insult nobody gave. You seem to be the one being judgemental, as you haven’t asked for reasoning behind the opinion, yet you’re calling me a jerk over it. That’s not a very levelheaded way of expressing your feelings.
pmensky
Broadway Star Joined: 7/18/11
#411Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/8/21 at 8:17pm
soulmistin said: "hearthemsing22 said: "Then don’t see it, and other people who aren’t judge mental jerks will see the movie and actually give them a friggin’ chance :) Go ahead and say it’s “illogical” but until you see the actual MOVIE, as this is the MOVIE and not the Broadway show, you can’t judge anything. :)
don’t you dare say I’m overreacting. I’m not :)"
Why are you being so aggressive? You’re already reacting to an insult nobody gave. You seem to be the one being judgemental, as you haven’t asked for reasoning behind the opinion, yet you’re calling me a jerk over it. That’s not a very levelheaded way of expressing your feelings."
soulmistin, That’s their routine.
hearthemsing22
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/14/20
#412Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/8/21 at 10:22pm
pmensky said: "soulmistin said: "hearthemsing22 said: "Then don’t see it, and other people who aren’t judge mental jerks will see the movie and actually give them a friggin’ chance :) Go ahead and say it’s “illogical” but until you see the actual MOVIE, as this is the MOVIE and not the Broadway show, you can’t judge anything. :)
don’t you dare say I’m overreacting. I’m not :)"
Why are you being so aggressive? You’re already reacting to an insult nobody gave. You seem to be the one being judgemental, as you haven’t asked for reasoning behind the opinion, yet you’re calling me a jerk over it. That’s not a very levelheaded way of expressing your feelings."
soulmistin, That’s their routine."
Nah.it’s not. But peoples routines seem to be using my reactions as a justification to say horrible things. Maybe look at yourself and how you provoke people instead of saying it’s my “routine”. If you can’t say anything nice…maybe just leave me alone :) is that something you’d be capable of doing? Thanks!
Just please don’t judge a movie that hasn’t even started filming yet.
Globefan
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/31/12
#413Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/31/21 at 6:06pm
If he's capable of turning off the French accent, I'd like to toss out Lucas Bravo as a Fiyero
#414Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/31/21 at 7:30pm
Very curious what route they take to make this less cheesy on film.
Globefan
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/31/12
#415Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/31/21 at 9:34pm
They're not doing a carbon copy of the show, which is good
Loopin’theloop
Leading Actor Joined: 1/9/18
#416Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 12/31/21 at 9:44pm
pmensky said: "bwayobsessed said: "My first thought was Ali as well but the more I thought about it, even though Elphaba is green, with the casting of Cynthia Erivo I think it would be pretty odd if her family was white.
As far as changes to the script, Nessa can still get mad at Boq trying to leave and magic him without her walking. The slippers can either stay silver like in the original Oz novel or be ruby from the beginning"
So what’s Boq’s motivation for leaving all of a sudden? And how does switching the slippers to silver help? How do they become magical? If they’re magical from the beginning, why wouldn’t she use them to walk?"
It’s very possible the shoes might remain silver regardless of potential changes to the Nessa Rose story. The show skirts around the issue of not having the rights to the ruby slippers by using a light and never saying they words ‘ruby slippers’ aloud. Seeing the shoes glow red on film, whatever they try is going to be more explicit and it will be harder to argue legally, that they aren’t going full ruby slipper
Globefan
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/31/12
#417Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 1/1/22 at 9:42pm
Andre De Shields for the Wizard
pmensky
Broadway Star Joined: 7/18/11
#418Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 1/9/22 at 12:24pm
Nicholas Galitzine, who played Prince Charming in the recent Amazon “Cinderella,” tweeted that he has been singing Wicked nonstop for the past week to the extent that his neighbors have started singing along. He added #dancingthroughlife at the end of the tweet. Sounds like audition prep to me.
#419Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 1/9/22 at 12:29pm
Globefan said: "Andre De Shields for the Wizard"
I had the same thought, this would be brilliant.
#420Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 1/16/22 at 11:35am
While frail, Liza seemed to be a lot healthier than I thought she was on her CBS This Morning piece. Maybe possibly she could do Morrible???
#421Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 1/16/22 at 11:46am
Tag said: "While frail, Liza seemed to be a lot healthier than I thought she was on her CBS This Morning piece. Maybe possibly she could do Morrible???"
Liza is now wheelchair bound and can barely stand for a minute or so. She is seated whenever she performs these days. Morrible isn’t a heavy sung role so she’s more than capable of playing the role, but her physical limitations would mean the role would have to be modified to suit what she is capable of.
pmensky
Broadway Star Joined: 7/18/11
#422Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 1/16/22 at 12:01pm
Tag said: "While frail, Liza seemed to be a lot healthier than I thought she was on her CBS This Morning piece. Maybe possibly she could do Morrible???"
I think a major issue is that insurance companies don’t want to cover her.
#423Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 1/16/22 at 1:29pm
Liza definitely seems like great choice if she was in better health.
Lorna Luft would be a great choice too for the same reason as Liza but she’s not as well known as her sister is. I’ve always wondered if she’d appear as Morrible on Broadway.
#424Universal's WICKED Film - News & Discussion Thread
Posted: 1/16/22 at 1:29pm
Liza definitely seems like great choice if she was in better health.
Lorna Luft would be a great choice too for the same reason as Liza but she’s not as well known as her sister is. I’ve always wondered if she’d appear as Morrible on Broadway.
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