Don't leave, kyle4! I've developed a poster-crush on you.
Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia
are you asking for specifics as to my departure or was that just meant as a nasty "dig"...
Earlier in this thread, you claimed you would be "leaving the board" after WOTV opened. My question is simply asking you if you'll be keeping that promise.
Yes, kyle should definitely stay. And not only because I totally agree with him that WOTV is a complete mess (I want my money back, really, plus my two and a half or so hours that I wasted having to watch it).
I saw the show last night as well. I had refrained from reading these comments before seeing it. I read a few today and stopped as they were not reflections of the show I saw.
Its far from perfect. Well, actually its not that far. An out-of-town could have really helped. Two great songs ("Model Behavior" and "Invisible". A nice restructuring of the film plot to make it fit a more American farce mode. Mostly wonderful direction and a talented cast working at peak (when the material allows it) and some wonderfully fun original and also lifted dialogue (Why no Pepa: "We were talking about her dress" Candella through her tears: "Its awful"). LOVED the projections and set.
Someone said the courtroom scene is too long. They're right. But don't cut Invisible. Make IT the scene.
Get rid of Marisa's Mambo dream sequence. it slows down the build to the climax, a farce should speed toward a resolution. The music should be driving (like it is through most of the show) not slogging everything down. From here to the poky conclusion with reprises and three endings, this is where Bartlet finally fails after two hours of mostly wonderful direction. Why is it so hard for people to end a show?
Was the woman who plays Marisa cast only because of her striking resemblance to the Marisa of the film?
Why doesn't Pepa have one good song? At least a great "I want" song at the top. "Lie to Me"? Really? Really? That's the best they could do?
I laughed hard and long. And I have a feeling the score will sound much better on second hearing (There are songs in "Wicked" I actively disliked when watching it that our now my favorites). With the right reviews this thing could last as long as the original cast stays with it. I hope it does. Its got a lot going for it.
So now that I have had some time to think about it I wanted to share my thoughts on last night. The audience was far more into the show tonight that the last time I saw it.
Pepa is now a much more fully formed character. Sherie seems to have really found the character has really grown in the part.
Madrid really works so much better as the show opener, but we immediately delve into camp territory by (SPOILER) having the taxi drive through Pepa's bedroom. The added dance breaks and character entraces are MUCH better. Thank god someone decided to have Patti take off her hat. She is not getting entrance applause because the audience can actually see who she is!
Two scenes are still stopping the show cold. The Microphone and the court room scene are still a mess. The Michrophone really should have been cut.
How much more would the courtoom scene have been if they hadn't given away Patti's big secret in the first act. I think if the court room scene was a place to reveal that (SPOILER)_she had been in a mental institution for 19 years it would work. As it stands now I kept wondering who this show was about? I am ok with finale, and I loved the curtain call! I still wish that Yazbeck had written some new songs for the show, but as it stands it is a show that I like instead of one that I love.
Yes, Mimi it is. I joined BW five years ago just hoping I'd someday musicalize an Almodovar film that you won't like so I could post my own review to contradict you.
Oh...you were being funny...you don't really think I'm David Yazbek. Oh you silly.
i'm pretty sure he was just being bitchy when he asked that question... but, to be clear, i am only going to stay on the boards until WOTV opens and then closes...
i am interested in seeing what the critics say... but, word of mouth will kill the show WAY before any critic does... well, i guess that depends... it will certainly be a horse race...
as i have said, i am leaving the boards because they do not lend themselves to proper discussions... if you have a STRONG negative opinion... you are "troll" (such a corny word, btw)... people will debate and argue your negative opinion whether they have seen the show or not...
its sad... but, its fine...
so yeah, i will be here through reviews and to read what people say after it has opened... then i will watch the audience numbers... then i'll go...
i also can't wait to hear what patti will say once she is free of it...
other than that, i will be CHECKING OUT... i will certainly ANNOUNCE my departure..
there will be a WRAP UP!!!!
have a great day guys!!!
(i got some cute emails today from some of you!!! thanks!!!)
^ it seems that way lately. I've received some harrasing almost threatening PMs from a newbie who just joined. And guess what? They use the same typing style and sentence structure as kyle4! Craig has been notified, but something really needs to be done!
Lots of people have negative opinions of a show, kyle. You are only a troll if you haven't seen the entire show and keep posting the same comments over and over and over and over and over.
Curtain going up soon on opening night, and there are 944 postings and 201,809 views of this thread, which started exactly 4 weeks ago. That's got to be some kind of record for BWW.
It's been a strange and interesting trip over these past 4 weeks, and I'm sure it will continue to be one.
For comparison's sake, the In the Heights love thread started in March 2008 and has 281,000 views. The Memphis love thread has 61,000 views since it started in Dec 2009.
"What was the name of that cheese that I like?"
"you can't run away forever...but there's nothing wrong with getting a good head start"
"well I hope and I pray, that maybe someday, you'll walk in the room with my heart"
wow, i wonder what was different about this thread? what made it so riveting? as opposed to the other threads that come and go...
i guess you would have to figure out what was NEW or DIFFERENT about this thread... as opposed to the other ones... what did this thread have that the other don't... that would be a good way of figuring it out!
there has to be a reason why this one was soooo popular...