What would have made Frozen Better — Page 3
Posted: 6/3/18 at 9:04am
I just realized the guy who directed Frozen, also directed the Evita revival. And that thing was awful! Now it's all making sense......
Posted: 6/3/18 at 10:35am
I would also get rid of those townsfolk/Tarzan people. They could have introduced the getting rid of magic a different way.
There’s no flow to the show either. Like the characters just run around on stage for most of the show.
I only bought tickets because I love Aladdin! I’ve seen Aladdin a bunch of times but Frozen is a once and done for me.
Posted: 6/3/18 at 10:49am
I don't think you can really get rid of Olaf. He's insanely popular in the film. It's like getting rid of Timon and Pumba in Lion King or Lumiere in BATB. What the frozen team should have done was give Olaf a big showstopping number.
Posted: 6/3/18 at 10:53am
Yeah I mean I am not a fan of the puppet design. But Olaf is essential to bringing two sisters back together as well as playing cupid for Anna and Kristoff.
Posted: 6/3/18 at 11:05am
I do think Disney rushed Frozen to the stage. I don’t have a problem with the minimalism and dark tones (though I would’ve loved an ice castle), but I think they could’ve explored the original tale and other mythology to add different, maybe darker layers. I was also disappointed with how they did Olaf. After that beautiful Sven puppet, Olaf seemed like a copout for the sake of synergy. I blame Disney corporate for that, since Michael Curry designed both puppets and presumably could’ve done something very special and beautiful with Olaf.
Overall, I think the show is still great, but it’s clear that Disney was interested in creating an adaptation of the movie, not an artistic piece of theatre that explores different facets of the story, which is a shame because it would’ve made money either way.
Posted: 6/3/18 at 11:38am
A different director. The tone and aesthetic is wildly uneven and can't decide what it wants to be. From realistic gloomy European castle to ice castles made of beaded curtains to more naturalistic puppets to completely cartoonish puppets to campy "magic native" woodland creatures - it's all over the place.
Posted: 6/6/18 at 5:49am
This might be of interest to those who find the puppet design for Olaf underwhelming in comparison to Sven: designer Michael Curry addressed the difference briefly in a recent interview. Whether one agrees with him or not, this was his reasoning for the different approaches:
"There’s sort of a weird rule that has established itself over the years: When looking at cartoon characters, you can change the funny characters less. They have to remain a snapshot of what the audience saw in the film. But with characters that aren’t completely invested in comedy, you can play with them more onstage, you can make it more avant-garde, you can play with the spiritual aspect of them. Olaf is much more a representation of the film image of Olaf in the movie than Sven is. Sven is a real caricature in the film. He has big, googly, Disney eyes, a big snout. [For the musical,] we were able to get out of the look of the film and find something that was more applicable for the live presentations. He became this really great metaphor—subtext for Kristoff’s spirituality, his shamanistic nature, his primitive nature—without getting in the way."
https://www.backstage.com/interview/why-there-were-only-100-living-actors-who-could-maneuver-puppets-frozen/
Posted: 6/6/18 at 11:25am
quizking101 said: “I want to know who would be age-appropriate and still be able to deliver the goods that this show requires."
Fresh-faced, wide-eyed musical theatre girls who can belt high notes show up in NYC by the busload every day. It’s a double-threat role (no real dancing), so I think this would’ve been extremely easy to cast. Frozen sells itself on its IP - you don’t need recognizable names. And I don’t think people outside of this community know who Levy and Murin are anyway.
Posted: 6/7/18 at 3:34pm
JudyDenmark said: "quizking101 said: “I want to know who would be age-appropriate and still be able to deliver the goods that this show requires."
Fresh-faced, wide-eyedmusical theatre girls who can belt high notes show up in NYC by the busloadevery day. It’s a double-threat role (no real dancing),so I think this would’ve been extremely easy to cast. Frozen sells itself on itsIP - you don’t need recognizable names. And I don’t think people outside of this community know who Levy and Murin are anyway."
Ahh yes b/c fresh-faced, wide-eyed girls looking for jobs would really be able to hold a show like this. Frozen is so well known which puts double the pressure on the 2 leads. Bringing 2 young girls who are “wide-eyed” definitely would not be the answer.
Posted: 6/7/18 at 3:44pm
I'm sure we'll have a lot of back and forth with Wicked. Plenty of Elphaba/Glindas could play Elsa/Annas.
I hope the inevitable "Jr." licensed version cuts the ballads "Dangerous to Dream" and "True Love." They are dreary and hurt the pace of the show.
Updated On: 6/7/18 at 03:44 PM
Posted: 6/7/18 at 4:16pm
Less grim lighting. Frozen (the film) is filled with bright colors. Even at night when it's dark. I left Frozen with a headache partly because the lighting was so dim.
Also, agree that Patti looks older than Caissie but both are too old anyway. Always thought Idina Menzel's voice was too rough and husky for her character design, but both look like super mature women. Maybe from the balcony it's better.
Posted: 6/7/18 at 5:03pm
Oh, wait, now we're just doing "Nightmare Before Christmas." That's easier, then: just do Nightmare Before Christmas.
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