Posted: 12/28/23 at 3:08pm
This was the absolute worst musical of last season. Eve much worse that bad cinderella. Why did the Tonys nominate this train wreck? Are they rigged?
Posted: 12/28/23 at 3:41pm
They have always filled up slots even if nothing was deserving. Just look at some of the historical nominees, e.g., Grind, Pump Girls and Dinettes, Starmites, and that is all the proof I need. Add to that the credentials or Kander & Ebb, Susan Stroman, and LMM, and you have it.
I have to acknowledge that there was not really a number of slots issue, so I assume the creatives’ credentials played a big role.
Posted: 12/28/23 at 3:54pm
I think A BEAUTIFUL NOISE should have been nominated over NEW YORK, NEW YORK...
Posted: 12/28/23 at 3:58pm
Normally there’s only four nominees for best musical. They just threw it in there because the committee wanted to help their friends. I don’t believe it’s as democratic as they claim. The Tony’s are corrupt
Posted: 12/28/23 at 4:01pm
NY NY wasn't a good musical but Beowulf Boritt rightfully won Tony for best scenic design, which was stunning and very inventive. No other musical of that season even came close. Perhaps it was the only great thing about this production.
Posted: 12/28/23 at 4:19pm
Broadway Flash said: "Normally there’s only four nominees for best musical. They just threw it in there because the committee wanted to help their friends. I don’t believe it’s as democratic as they claim. The Tony’s are corrupt"
The number of nominees in each category is determined by the number of eligible productions/performers/production elements in the respective category and/or a tie in the votes. It wasn’t an extra nominee just because. There wasn’t an extra slot because of corruption.
Posted: 12/28/23 at 4:26pm
Even though I didn't like NYNY, I probably would have nominated it over the shows that didn't get nominated. There was enough to like about it (the technical design, the dancing, some of the performances) that I could get on board with a Best Musical nom. I'll never understand the nomination for Book of a Musical though.
Posted: 12/28/23 at 4:32pm
I thought the choreo was all basic stroman which we’ve seen a thousand times before. Yawn. And I know what the Tony awards says about how they nominate, I just don’t believe them. And I don’t think there was that many new musicals last season that would have warranted 5 nominees. I think 9 new musicals? By that standard, there will be even more nominees this season.
Posted: 12/28/23 at 4:36pm
I love these random, sometimes unhinged, rants from Broadway Flash that seem to come completely out of nowhere.
Never change, BF. ❤️
Updated On: 12/28/23 at 04:36 PM
Posted: 12/28/23 at 4:43pm
Broadway Flash said: "I thought the choreo was all basic stroman which we’ve seen a thousand times before. Yawn. And I know what the Tony awards says about how they nominate, I just don’t believe them. And I don’t think there was that many new musicals last season that would have warranted 5 nominees. I think 9 new musicals? By that standard, there will be even more nominees this season."
Yawn. How many more days until the children go back to school?
Posted: 12/28/23 at 5:20pm
Broadway Flash said: "I thought the choreo was all basic stroman which we’ve seen a thousand times before. Yawn. And I know what the Tony awards says about how they nominate, I just don’t believe them. And I don’t think there was that many new musicals last season that would have warranted 5 nominees. I think 9 new musicals? By that standard, there will be even more nominees this season."
Per Tony rules, if a category has 9 elegible candidates, there will five nominees (more if there is a two- or three-way tie for the last slot). The rules are easily accessible on the Tony Awards website should you want to look them up.
Posted: 12/28/23 at 6:08pm
In years past there was more than 9 eligible musicals and they only nominated 4. Like 2014
Posted: 12/28/23 at 6:25pm
One reason: they did it to piss you off.
Posted: 12/28/23 at 7:04pm
Also remember that “Best Musical” is really more Best Production of a Musical, as all the elements ha V d their individual categories.
Posted: 12/28/23 at 7:07pm
BroadwayRox3588 said: "I love these random, sometimes unhinged, rants from Broadway Flash that seem to come completely out of nowhere.
Never change, BF. ❤️"
Haha! I love this. Regarding the original topic, I actually think NY, NY was a missed opportunity and I was bored out of my mind, I wanted a LIZA and I didn't get a LIZA so I was not happy. But I liked it better than Bad Cinderella, Kimberly Akimbo, Some Like it Hot, Shucked. &Juliet I sorta liked, but it was also boring. I actually think my favorite Broadway musical was Beautiful Noise that year. But overall, one of the worst seasons.
Posted: 12/28/23 at 9:28pm
it was truly a terrible season for musicals. I thought it was quite strong for plays. The fact that &juliet continues to run and has million dollar weeks is beyond me. I disliked juliet more than nyny. Kimberly and shucked were sweet but fine, and some like it hot was my favorite but lukewarm.
Posted: 12/28/23 at 10:02pm
How appropriate for the worst poster of 2023!
Posted: 12/28/23 at 10:23pm
Is it possible to block someone here so you don't have to see their posts?
Just curious.
Posted: 12/28/23 at 11:02pm
Yes, as a matter of fact you can block a poster. Under ACCOUNT.
Posted: 12/29/23 at 12:02am
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Updated On: 12/29/23 at 12:02 AM
Posted: 12/29/23 at 12:08am
Such a weird, bad show, but I’m glad I got to witness it if just to see a truly grand-scale misfire.
Posted: 12/29/23 at 12:13am
Broadway Flash said: "In years past there was more than 9 eligible musicals and they only nominated 4. Like 2014"
Simple: They changed the rules since then.
Posted: 12/29/23 at 9:20am
We’re really trying to get in one more off the rails thread in under the wire this year, huh?
Posted: 12/29/23 at 10:19am
I don’t like those rules. I would only nominate shows that are worthy, however many that is. If it was a very strong season, and 8 new musicals were worthy, let’s nominate all 8. If it was a weak season and only three musicals were good, then just nominate those three. If they just fill up the slots with mediocrity, it lowers the bar and no longer becomes about excellence.
Posted: 12/29/23 at 10:24am
Broadway Flash said: "I don’t like those rules. I would only nominate shows that are worthy, however many that is. If it was a very strong season, and 8 new musicals were worthy, let’s nominate all 8. If it was a weak season and only three musicals were good, then just nominate those three. If they just fill up the slots with mediocrity, it lowers the bar and no longer becomes about excellence."
Cool.
