how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
#0how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 5:16pm
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Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#1re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 5:16pmDefine "good". He was a very good song and dance man.
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#2re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 5:17pmsomeone said that he is his favorite singer...i think he is great...but he can't sing. thats a fact
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#3re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 5:20pm
it was Elphaba4 these are her/his favorite singers They're all Broadway actors and actresses:
1. Idina Menzel
2. Adam Pascal
3. Sherie Rene Scott
4. Joel Grey
5. Norbert Leo Butz
6. Taye Diggs
7. Linda Eder
8. Terrance Mann
9. Kristin Chenoweth
10. Hugh Panero
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#5re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 5:24pmpersonally, I may get tarred and feathered but I heard the revival cast recording of CABARET prior to the original so when I finally did listen to the OBC when Joel sang his first line I nearly threw up. I couldn't believe what he was doing. like he wasn't even trying or he was trying to sound annoying... I dunno, just annoys me to all hell compared to Alan or Adam's Emcee. Updated On: 2/18/05 at 05:24 PM
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#6re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 5:32pmYou should be eaten.
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#7re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 5:33pmWe've had a few posts now in various threads that have all boiled down to the fact that hiting the notes or having a great sounding voice is not always the most important thing on Broadway. I can't say I'd like to listen to an album of Joel Grey Sings Broadway's Greatest Love Songs, but I bet he would have an interesting interpretation of each one. Every time I've seen him perform I've been impressed by what he's brought to the part, not necessarily the beauty of his voice.
#8re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 5:36pm
"like he wasn't even trying or he was trying to sound annoying"
He modeled the character after a really awful Vaudeville performer he had seen as a kid that scared the crap out of him..
So I guess you could say he was trying to be annoying.
But Grey owns that role as much as Kiley owns Don Quixote or Holiday owns Effie.
As good as Alan was, it was such a different interpretation and cannot even be compared.
Nothing can creep me out quite like the opening shot of Grey in the film of Cabaret. Sends shivers down my spine every time.
He didn't win the Tony and the Oscar for nothing.
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Updated On: 2/18/05 at 05:36 PM
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#9re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 5:50pmJoel Grey's performance in GEORGE M! was one of the greatest things I ever saw. Including his singing.
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#10re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 6:26pmI thought he was brilliant in Cabaret- OBC recording and movie versions. Is the timbre of his voice beautiful? No. But it fits the part, and it's wonderfully expressive and musical. So while I wouldn't call him one of my favorite singers, I'm not going to look strangely at those who do.
#11re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 6:37pmWell he's not fantastic...but he's good, and he's so classic! Song and dance man sums it up.
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#12re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 6:54pmJust because he won a Tony and an Oscar doesn't mean everyone has to like him.
Plum
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#13re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 6:58pmNope. But the fact that one doesn't like him doesn't give one the ability to say that no one else can possibly consider him to be a good singer.
#14re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 6:59pmHis voice was so prue and clean in Cabaret OBC....definately a good tone quality....he is(or was) a good singer.
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#15re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 7:01pmI agree with Priest! Honestly, he is a brilliant performer, and while the quality of his voice may not be pleasant to everyone's ears, it's music to mine!
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Warning's fair:
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Very much
wildcat
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#16re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 8:03pmListen to JOEL GREY-LIVE! (his nightclub act) or GOODTIME CHARLEY. His voice may be brash in an Anthony Newley sort of way (interestingly Grey replaced Newley in STOP THE WORLD-I WANT TO GET OFF and THE ROAR OF THE GREASEPAINT, THE SMELL OF THE CROWD), but he hits every note dead center, he has superb diction and breath control and there is no sliding or embroidering the notes. Also, as previously noted, Grey is a PERFORMER whose appeal increases when seen live. But frankly I would rather hear Joel Grey than some of the showboating that passes for singing these days on American Idol.
Mr Roxy
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#17re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 8:30pm
It is a free country. You can alledgedly say what you want - yeah right
He is an all around performer. Some have great voices & no idea what to do with them . He has an OK voice but makes the most of it
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#18re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 8:35pmThank you. Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly didn't have great voices either.
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#19re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 8:55pmI don't think a singer should be measured by the caliber of thier voice. I like the way that Joel Grey delivers a song..the man has energy! I think he father was a cantor.
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wildcat
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#20re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 8:58pmHis dad was Mickey Katz, a famous Borscht belt comedian.
alterego
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#21re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 9:19pmI agree, he is a PERFORMER and an all rounder. While his voice may not be the most melodious around he can make up for any shortcomings by his other performance skills.
broadwaybelter
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/26/04
#22re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 9:39pm
Joel Grey is a very good singer, i'd like to see you sing the songs he sings an do it just as well!!
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#23re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 9:54pmHow can anyone say you are intelligent?
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Broadway Legend Joined: 11/26/04
#24re: how can anyone say that joel grey is a good singer?
Posted: 2/18/05 at 9:57pmwho me??? i'm insulted
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