Erik - I think you are absolutely right. Same for Sean Combs or Scarlett Johansson. And I don't think others would be so willing to accept the same fauxpology from any of them, either. But from a beloved Broadway cult star of Side Show who has PAID HER DUES, it's all ok, right?
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
Matt, what you just said struck me as interesting because I don't exactly agree with you (although I feel I should) If Sean Combs did the same thing than yes, there would be outrage and it would be all over the place. If Scarlet Johansson did it, I'm not so sure. I think first of all someone like her (if she ever would have a brain fart and do that) would issue a formal apology and all would be forgiven because she's just so damn sweet and I don't think anyone could believe she had any malicious intent behind it. But with Miss Alice, nobody knows what's going on in her head at any given moment so we're left to only assume the worst. I'm not defending her in any way (read my past posts here) but it's an interesting comparison that made me think.
Well. Let's face it. If Sean Combs did do that, the outrage would consist a lot of How dare he/All black people are homophobic/How could they all vote for Prop 8/I hate black people/Go back to Africa!
Scarlett probably would apologize, but even so, I think there would be FAR fewer (if any) people who would be as forgiving to her for using the word as those who have done so for Alice. Remember how she was ripped to shreds for commenting on the amount of spittle raining on her every night? More people felt more justified in slamming her for that than slamming someone else for dropping a "fag" bomb.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
Matt, maybe you're right. I can't exactly picture her doing that anyways though. lol
The only person who's allowed to say whatever they want whenever they want about whoever they want if Sarah Silverman. It was decided a few years ago and that's just the way it is.
A slight kick to the silly cow diva's backside will do her no harm, and bring her some much-desired press. After all, she's hardly a real celebrity, is she? Outside the tiny fraction of people who pay attention to Broadway musical theatre (and the even tinier sub-fraction of that who see her shows), who has any idea who she is?
This comment on her facebook page really scares me and speaks volumes about how people will go out of their way to show devotion to someone who they don't know and who doesn't want to know them. It also says a lot about her this person sees himself:
"I have never heard a more ridiuclous or nonsensical dust-up over nothing. I'm a fag, you're a fag hag, and we both have the right to use the word however the f#ck we want. And for the record: your initial post was equal parts hilarious and truthful. xM
"Robbie, wasn't it Usher that was telling Combs to give it to him harder, though?"
I can't say. I signed a confidentiality agreement.
I think a certain complacency sets in when hets are super-friendly with the homos. It gets to a point where the hets think they can talk to the homos like the homos talk amongst themselves. Kinda like giving out 'G' cards. Perhaps this is the case. But to not get it and not issue a very simple apology that seems sincere?
But the thing is, I think Alice does get it. She has just taken the stance that it's just no big deal despite what anyone says. I think she basically made up her mind that anyone who might be offended must be a crazy fanatic. Having other blogs and websites pick up this story might help to clarify this a bit for her and add a bit more objectivity to the situation. Something beyond BWW (which she clearly dislikes) and Facebook (her comfortable world made up only of Ripley-lovers).
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
She also seems to be taking the (drearily familiar) stance that she's the victim. What was that nonsense about violence against women? Next she'll be carrying on about the First Amendment.
I wonder if part of it is that sort of puffed up feeling one can get on the internet where even though you KNOW you've gone too far you kind of just feel like you have to keep going with it, rather than back down. I'm not say I have ever acted like that or anything, just that I get it. :)
I mean...why even bother responding to ANYONE on a message board? You have a Tony. You LITERALLY won this argument. And then to purposely choose to use the word 'fag'?
I, frankly, wouldn't be surprised if she ends up pouring chocolate on her cooch and revealing it was all performance art.
So now there ISN'T going to be a protest?? Dammit! I was looking forward to the youtube video like a child looks forward to Christmas.
Thanks for ruining my week, fags!
"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.”
~ Muhammad Ali
Someone commented on her wall something about the thread here, to which she replied:
GEEZ I SAID I WAS SORRY!
...That's what I used to say when I was five and was sick of my mother yelling at me. It's the LEAST genuine thing she could possibly say. Updated On: 6/8/10 at 12:14 PM
"The only person who's allowed to say whatever they want whenever they want about whoever they want if Sarah Silverman. It was decided a few years ago and that's just the way it is."
I missed that meeting and definitely would have cast a "nay" vote.
I do expect Alice will kick it up a notch and I fully expect her to say or write, "Nobody hates homophobia more than I do." Sorry, NOBODY HATES HOMOPHOBIA MORE THAN I DO.