I was in Lancaster, PA this week for a family vacation. We stayed at the hotel that we've been staying at since I was six months old. Wonderful, we've loved it all these years. Apparently our visit coincided with the hotel hosting some sort of week-long Hasidic family retreat.
I was sitting in the lobby with my book and a man walked up to the desk. I was close enough to hear what he said. He leaned real close to the clerk and whispered, "You've got to move my room away from these fvcking Jews." I was horrified, as was the girl behind the desk. She stuttered for a moment and went to get the manager. When the manager came out he said that the guy's room would be moved - "right by the elevator, nobody will bother you." The guest proceeded to high five his son and wife.
I was shocked, to say the least. Does anyone know if there are any non-discrimination laws in place for this sort of thing? I assume the hotel would have been within its rights to tell the guest he was no longer welcome, and I was really surprised and disappointed that they accommodated him.
While the guy is an asshole, the hotel didn't do anything wrong, per se. They didn't discriminate against anyone by moving a bigot to a different room.
A hotel is in the business to make money. By kicking out the guest, they're losing money. By kicking out the guest, and if the guest complains to the BBB or if they go to the public, then the hotel is in a world of crap that the managers and owners don't want.
I know it's a tough situation and I'm sorry you had to hear that.
As someone who works at a hotel, I would say the best thing to do is voice your concerns and complaints to the manager. Go to the Yelp/Trip Advisor page and write your thoughts. My bosses follow Trip Advisor and Yelp religiously. We're questioned for each little thing.
Personally, I would've kicked the guests out. I don't have that authority though. Or, I would've said, "I'm sorry, sir, but we're fully booked. You can either stay there or leave." That way, it's not a flat out eviction. Just more of a suggestion.
I'm curious to know how the Jews were even bothering the man? Unless they were doing a bottle dance outside his doorway..how can they bother him? Half the time I go on vacation if no idea (nor do I care) whos in the next room.
I guess the hotel manager did what he thought was right, but it bothers me that the bigot received some kind of validation for his hate.
The hotel manager was doing his job. He made money, he appeased the guest. Now, I don't know if Glinda was the guest that the jerk wanted to move away from. That's a completely different story.
Not at all. I know hotels are in the business of accommodating people. I don't know what I expected them to do. It was just shocking to hear someone voice their hate that bluntly.
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Have you ever stayed in a hotel where a large conference or convention has most of the rooms? It can be really tough- the noise, the running up and down to each other's rooms, the hospitality suites. It was unfortunate that he phrased the request like that but a lack of sleep can do that to you.
I stayed a Doubletree in Panama City that was all but booked up by a "Chastity Belt" convention- college guys who've taken purity pledges. They ran around in their underwear, skinny dipped in the pool, got sloppy drunk and nervously made eye contact with me in the elevator. I finally had to ask the hotel manager to move me as the sounds of my vigorous, constant lovemaking was keeping my neighbors awake.
Updated On: 8/19/13 at 08:55 PM
yeah but we don't know if "those Jews" were causing that kind of disturbance, do we. All we know is the guy whispered the words so he knew damn well what he was saying.
If he wanted to move away from some loud partying group, I think he would have asked in a normal tone of voice.
Hasidic Jews are maybe the meanest group of individuals I've ever encountered. I was spit on by two of them in Times Square once because I wasn't "Jewish enough" and it "makes them sick". I talked with my aunt about this a few months ago. She's about as hardcore Jewish as you can get without being Hasidic and she said she agreed with me that they were (generally) incredibly nasty and mean.
So while the guy at the hotel was probably a Jew hating son of a bitch, I can't fault him for this one.
How do communicate "speechless" in text? " "? Is that how?
You know how they hand out Hanukkah candles in Times Square? There's always a bunch of people (Hasidic's, mostly) who stand out there giving boxes of candles to Jewish people (and they make sure you're Jewish before you can have them). A few years ago one said to me "You! Are you Jewish?" I said "Why?" and he said they were passing the boxes out for Hanukkah. I told him that yes, I was in fact Jewish. He said to his friend something in Yiddish that I didn't understand and the two of them spit at me. The one who talked to me then yelled "You're no Jew! Where is your tallit? Where is your yarmulke?! You're no fvcking Jew!, etc."
So yeah, after that I had a lot less respect for them and have really noticed just how mean they generally are. And for a while I had to spend a LOT of time in a few areas of Brooklyn and the LES where I was around them a lot.
Updated On: 8/19/13 at 10:24 PM
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I'm just enjoying the image of a Hasidic gathering in Lancaster, PA. The confusion of Jews and Amish folk would make an amusing play... or musical...
"Plain and Fancy-Shmancy"
It actually would! Are there any Amish musicals??
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But the funny thing is, they were moved near the elevators, the location that annoys most hotel guests looking for peace and quiet.
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A convention of Jews? You wonder if it will be noisy? Shayna pupik, have you ever sat next to three Jews having lunch? Multiply exponentially.
"But the funny thing is, they were moved near the elevators, the location that annoys most hotel guests looking for peace and quiet."
I though the same thing, Namo.
It certainly isn't an award of any kind.
But the funny thing is, they were moved near the elevators, the location that annoys most hotel guests looking for peace and quiet."
I though the same thing, Namo.
It certainly isn't an award of any kind.
WMTA.
I had the exact same thought.
"A convention of Jews? You wonder if it will be noisy? Shayna pupik, have you ever sat next to three Jews having lunch? Multiply exponentially."
Wow, those noisy Jews!!!! Noisy isn't really an adjective used to describe Hassidic Jews, while I can think of so many other groups of people who you can multiply exponentially any day of the week.
This thread is racist.
I didn't sleep very well last night. Jew?
Yeah, I slept fine.
Yes Besty, this thread is quite interesting. Thanks for pointing that out.
I guess I'm surprised to read some of the comments that are publicly made here. MOstly people keep those kind of remarks to themselves.
I'll stop reading it and leave you to your fun!
That hotel guest is lucky it wasn't a convention of Puerto Ricans. Then he would *really* have something to complain about. Those folks are just too damned loud!
And they have the penchant for recreating the musical number, "America" on rooftops.
Updated On: 8/20/13 at 08:57 AM
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