Disturbing Hotel Experience
#1Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 7:42pm
I was in Lancaster, PA this week for a family vacation. We stayed at the hotel that we've been staying at since I was six months old. Wonderful, we've loved it all these years. Apparently our visit coincided with the hotel hosting some sort of week-long Hasidic family retreat.
I was sitting in the lobby with my book and a man walked up to the desk. I was close enough to hear what he said. He leaned real close to the clerk and whispered, "You've got to move my room away from these fvcking Jews." I was horrified, as was the girl behind the desk. She stuttered for a moment and went to get the manager. When the manager came out he said that the guy's room would be moved - "right by the elevator, nobody will bother you." The guest proceeded to high five his son and wife.
I was shocked, to say the least. Does anyone know if there are any non-discrimination laws in place for this sort of thing? I assume the hotel would have been within its rights to tell the guest he was no longer welcome, and I was really surprised and disappointed that they accommodated him.
#2Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 7:47pmWhile the guy is an asshole, the hotel didn't do anything wrong, per se. They didn't discriminate against anyone by moving a bigot to a different room.
#2Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 7:54pm
A hotel is in the business to make money. By kicking out the guest, they're losing money. By kicking out the guest, and if the guest complains to the BBB or if they go to the public, then the hotel is in a world of crap that the managers and owners don't want.
I know it's a tough situation and I'm sorry you had to hear that.
As someone who works at a hotel, I would say the best thing to do is voice your concerns and complaints to the manager. Go to the Yelp/Trip Advisor page and write your thoughts. My bosses follow Trip Advisor and Yelp religiously. We're questioned for each little thing.
Personally, I would've kicked the guests out. I don't have that authority though. Or, I would've said, "I'm sorry, sir, but we're fully booked. You can either stay there or leave." That way, it's not a flat out eviction. Just more of a suggestion.
#3Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 8:00pmI'm curious to know how the Jews were even bothering the man? Unless they were doing a bottle dance outside his doorway..how can they bother him? Half the time I go on vacation if no idea (nor do I care) whos in the next room.
#4Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 8:11pmI guess the hotel manager did what he thought was right, but it bothers me that the bigot received some kind of validation for his hate.
#5Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 8:18pmThe hotel manager was doing his job. He made money, he appeased the guest. Now, I don't know if Glinda was the guest that the jerk wanted to move away from. That's a completely different story.
#6Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 8:53pmNot at all. I know hotels are in the business of accommodating people. I don't know what I expected them to do. It was just shocking to hear someone voice their hate that bluntly.
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#7Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 8:55pm
Have you ever stayed in a hotel where a large conference or convention has most of the rooms? It can be really tough- the noise, the running up and down to each other's rooms, the hospitality suites. It was unfortunate that he phrased the request like that but a lack of sleep can do that to you.
I stayed a Doubletree in Panama City that was all but booked up by a "Chastity Belt" convention- college guys who've taken purity pledges. They ran around in their underwear, skinny dipped in the pool, got sloppy drunk and nervously made eye contact with me in the elevator. I finally had to ask the hotel manager to move me as the sounds of my vigorous, constant lovemaking was keeping my neighbors awake.
Updated On: 8/19/13 at 08:55 PM
#8Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 9:54pm
yeah but we don't know if "those Jews" were causing that kind of disturbance, do we. All we know is the guy whispered the words so he knew damn well what he was saying.
If he wanted to move away from some loud partying group, I think he would have asked in a normal tone of voice.
#9Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 9:59pm
Hasidic Jews are maybe the meanest group of individuals I've ever encountered. I was spit on by two of them in Times Square once because I wasn't "Jewish enough" and it "makes them sick". I talked with my aunt about this a few months ago. She's about as hardcore Jewish as you can get without being Hasidic and she said she agreed with me that they were (generally) incredibly nasty and mean.
So while the guy at the hotel was probably a Jew hating son of a bitch, I can't fault him for this one.
#11Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 10:20pmHow do communicate "speechless" in text? " "? Is that how?
#12Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 10:24pm
You know how they hand out Hanukkah candles in Times Square? There's always a bunch of people (Hasidic's, mostly) who stand out there giving boxes of candles to Jewish people (and they make sure you're Jewish before you can have them). A few years ago one said to me "You! Are you Jewish?" I said "Why?" and he said they were passing the boxes out for Hanukkah. I told him that yes, I was in fact Jewish. He said to his friend something in Yiddish that I didn't understand and the two of them spit at me. The one who talked to me then yelled "You're no Jew! Where is your tallit? Where is your yarmulke?! You're no fvcking Jew!, etc."
So yeah, after that I had a lot less respect for them and have really noticed just how mean they generally are. And for a while I had to spend a LOT of time in a few areas of Brooklyn and the LES where I was around them a lot.
Updated On: 8/19/13 at 10:24 PM
Jon
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#14Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 10:32pm
I'm just enjoying the image of a Hasidic gathering in Lancaster, PA. The confusion of Jews and Amish folk would make an amusing play... or musical...
"Plain and Fancy-Shmancy"
#15Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 10:33pmIt actually would! Are there any Amish musicals??
FindingNamo
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#16Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 10:53pmBut the funny thing is, they were moved near the elevators, the location that annoys most hotel guests looking for peace and quiet.
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#17Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 11:07pmA convention of Jews? You wonder if it will be noisy? Shayna pupik, have you ever sat next to three Jews having lunch? Multiply exponentially.
#18Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/19/13 at 11:40pm
"But the funny thing is, they were moved near the elevators, the location that annoys most hotel guests looking for peace and quiet."
I though the same thing, Namo.
It certainly isn't an award of any kind.
#19Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/20/13 at 12:44am
But the funny thing is, they were moved near the elevators, the location that annoys most hotel guests looking for peace and quiet."
I though the same thing, Namo.
It certainly isn't an award of any kind.
WMTA.
I had the exact same thought.
#20Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/20/13 at 8:41am
"A convention of Jews? You wonder if it will be noisy? Shayna pupik, have you ever sat next to three Jews having lunch? Multiply exponentially."
Wow, those noisy Jews!!!! Noisy isn't really an adjective used to describe Hassidic Jews, while I can think of so many other groups of people who you can multiply exponentially any day of the week.
#21Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/20/13 at 8:46amThis thread is racist.
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#22Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/20/13 at 8:47am
I didn't sleep very well last night. Jew?
Yeah, I slept fine.
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#23Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/20/13 at 8:53am
Yes Besty, this thread is quite interesting. Thanks for pointing that out.
I guess I'm surprised to read some of the comments that are publicly made here. MOstly people keep those kind of remarks to themselves.
I'll stop reading it and leave you to your fun!
#24Disturbing Hotel Experience
Posted: 8/20/13 at 8:57am
That hotel guest is lucky it wasn't a convention of Puerto Ricans. Then he would *really* have something to complain about. Those folks are just too damned loud!
And they have the penchant for recreating the musical number, "America" on rooftops.
Updated On: 8/20/13 at 08:57 AM
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