MADONNA/REBEL HEART and More — Page 19
Posted: 3/19/15 at 12:20am
I will agree that it may be one of her best TV appearances in days.
Posted: 3/19/15 at 6:53am
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Posted: 3/19/15 at 7:32am
Mister Matt not watching that clip because how dare she write a song about getting upset about nasty things getting written about her, brilllint.
Posted: 3/19/15 at 9:12am
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Posted: 3/19/15 at 10:50am
Oh, lordy. Is that what you read from my post? Are you using Babel Fish to read this site or something?
At least Madonna and I agree on something. She is not Joan of Arc or a super hero. She's human and is hypocritical, intentionally antagonistic, immature and lacks self-awareness sometimes just like other ordinary people. And sometimes people acknowledge that. And openly discuss it.
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Posted: 3/19/15 at 11:37am
I'm not a hater. I'm a disappointed-in-her-er. An I-had-such-high-hopes-for-her-er.
I always talked about her when she was a culturally important fixture in the pop culture firmament, worthy of discussion by academics. Why not look closely at somebody who had all that going for her and then made some choices that stopped all that?
Posted: 3/19/15 at 5:56pm
Namo if you are so disappointed, so let down, think she's over, has no relevance etc etc then why bother paying any attention. She has made a bloody good album and most of what you talk about on here has nothing to do with the album. Let her go, move on. And Namo YOU THINK she is culturally irrelevant now, you. When will you realise that your opinion is an opinion, just like everybody else has opinions? It doesn't make them wrong and you right just because you say it over and over again. God I adore you, you seem smart and well read but geez, give it a rest. Though to be fair I would take reading your posts anyday compared to MisterMatt's.
Anyway, moving on, great performance of Ghosttown on Ellen today.
Updated On: 3/19/15 at 05:56 PM
Posted: 3/19/15 at 11:27pm
One question--is this just something to do with the two disc edition--or do none of them have proper producer/writer credits for each song??
Posted: 3/20/15 at 9:04am
The album could suffer quite a drop this week (out of the top 15 if hits daily double are right), such a shame since it's such a good album. I think the leaks really killed this album as everyone predicted.
Posted: 3/20/15 at 9:25am
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Posted: 3/20/15 at 9:55am
Her performance of Ghosttown was great, as was Joan of Arc and Living for Love remix
Posted: 3/20/15 at 9:56am
What track do you think she should do?
Posted: 3/20/15 at 10:36am
She took a nascent short film format and ran with it. It was the perfect medium for her. It didn't matter that she couldn't sing. Madonna's music videos early in her career were light years ahead of anything released by her peers with the possible exception of Michael Jackson.
It all seemed so new back then. And it was well before the advent of American Idol aka National Karaoke Nights. Now, it's been done to death by everyone.
To me, Madonna still can't sing worth a lick. But, she's a survivor in an industry that habitually writes off female pop music stars as soon as they turn 30. It's Madge's longevity and business acumen that keep me in her camp. The newer music doesn't grip me like the more seasoned entries in her catalog.
Posted: 3/20/15 at 11:12am
"I think the leaks really killed this album as everyone predicted."
Yes, that's right, it's the leaks.
Posted: 3/20/15 at 1:07pm
Listen again. I'm not saying she's Cecilia Bartoli, but there was considerable improvement post-Evita. I love her voice now.
Posted: 3/20/15 at 1:33pm
It's been suggested by others that some of those established acts didn't fare so well during disco's reign of terror that predates MTV either. I do remember some rock musician friends easily dismissing Madonna, Jody Watley, Paula Abdul, and several other breakout artists of the 80s as celluloid stars. The Milli Vanilli debacle that capped the decade didn't help matters either.
@Namo At what point will karma do its lil' number on Madge?
Updated On: 3/20/15 at 01:33 PM
Posted: 3/20/15 at 2:15pm
Bizarre. Of course they are on Wiki, but I find that odd--pop music is always about the collaboration between writer/performer/producer.
I've played the album twice so far, and as a whole I like it more than her last two albums. Like many people here, Ghost Town and Body Shop sound like strong tracks. I'm disappointed that so far I don't like any of the dancey tracks.
Posted: 3/20/15 at 2:16pm
Posted: 3/20/15 at 3:32pm
That is probably one of those eternal Madge debates, right? Clearly, she benefited in some ways from the Evita vocal training, but I think it's also possible to argue that many of her post late 90s/2000s vocals suffered by becoming too formal and stilted with "proper" singing. I think she never sounded better - at least on record - than in the 89/90 Like a Prayer-Vogue-Immaculate Collection period.
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Posted: 3/20/15 at 6:39pm
Namo and I hardly agree on most things--but I'm with him here. How did that hurt sales? If anything it spiked sales. Leaked albums (and especially leaked in the way this one was,) do not affect album sales anymore.
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