Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
PalJoey. That might be true, but I just personally find it a little slimy to speak for those who are no longer with us. In most any respect. It's not our place to do so.
Different strokes for different folks.
I speak for Ethel Merman. She says you should shut up.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
Thank God it's a public message board where one can voice dissenting opinions and not be stopped, then. Open up your mind.
You think it's perfectly acceptable to speak for the deceased. I do not. It's possible to agree to disagree, you know. And in a civil manner, no less.
I told Ethel you said that.
She said you should blow it out your ass.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Because you are so *terrible* at deductive conclusions, so demonstrably awful at it that the word "headbandian" has been coined for just such occasions, I can see how you think it is impossible to glean how somebody would feel about something from years and years of exposure to the way they express their ideas and thought processes.
Trust, child, when I tell you IflitIfloat would have HATED those sweatshirts.
She also would have color coded you at least a half dozen times.
Jerry Seinfeld honors Joan Rivers.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jerry-seinfeld-honors-joan-rivers-733053?facebook_20140915
Iflit actually asked that I speak for her at her memorial service. She gifted to us her friendship...the ability to know her. From the wonderful times of sitting in a theater with her to the awful moments where she sat and comforted me and many others her, she allowed us to know her.
She would have hated that sweatshirt.
That sweatshirt is gross and insensitive.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
"From the wonderful times of sitting in a theater with her to the awful moments where she sat and comforted me and many others her, she allowed us to know her."
Ok. Being "allowed" to "know" someone is a far cry from speaking for them. You cannot espouse genuinely truthful viewpoints or opinions on behalf of an individual who is deceased. It's that simple.
In that case, let the departed speak for themselves. Please heed the advice of the late John Gielgud.
Hobson
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Oh, abscessory. I put no words into the mouth of my dead friend. Here's what I wrote: "IflitIfloat would have HATED the sweatshirt, since she was there that fateful day…"
And, honest to god, the day you went on your first hopeless riff on me being a college professor who taught you, everybody here who knew her agreed that she would have been laughing her ass off at you with the rest of us.
That ain't "speaking for" her, that's the truth.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
You are espousing an opinion on their behalf. It is your OPINION that she would have "hated" the sweatshirt. She is not here to tell us what she believes, so you must assume. That is all you can do.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
No, that's all YOU can do. And your track records on assumptions has been so abysmal you must take even your own insights with a grain of salt at this point.
On the View yesterday, Kristin Chenoweth sings "Borrowed Angels," which left Rosie in tears and after which Whoopi asked Namo and Phyllis and borstal and snafu and growl to "take a moment with us--the View folks--and see who she was."
Not who you think she was or you've decided she was. But who she was to them. Who she was to women in comedy.
Who Whoopi says she WAS.
Jesus, ENOUGH!
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
If this thread has taught me nothing else it's that I am going to have to be put in a medically-induced coma when Larry Kramer dies.
What is it with this all so important need to be "right" with some of you?
Just agree to disagree and move on.
IflitIfloat would have HATED the sweatshirt, since she was there that fateful day, but you know.
Please do not speak on behalf of the deceased, as they do not have the ability to either refute or affirm said assumptions.
I know FOR A FACT that Iflit would have hated that sweatshirt.
HATED it.
... now back to the regularly scheduled nonsense of this tread.
And she would have NO problem with my speaking for her.
None.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
Unless the opinion you are stating has also been explicitly shared by said individual, there is a problem. You are speaking on behalf of a deceased person, who is no longer with us to refute or affirm what you say.
LH, let's agree to disagree on this.
Without sharing details to prove how close Iflit and I were, you can trust me that she and I discussed Kent State. And while this sweatshirt didn't exist before she passed away, I know FOR A FACT that if she was alive today she would say what I've said, and she would let you know that it's ok for me to speak on her behalf.
Now, let's move on.
NYadgal, it can't move on.
Everyone in this thread needs a big time out.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Every time I try go get out they drag me back in.
i just spoke to our dear flitty via translove airphone. she said, and i quote, "f*ck that shirt. and f*ck anybody dumb enough to think i would say anything other than, 'f*ck that shirt.'"
then she slapped me for bothering her for something so dumb.
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