clinton vs. sanders your vote? — Page 96

The Dems of MI have an open primary and it's estimated that about 20% of the primary voters are indies. Those indies are voting for Sanders. Hillary is banking on Wayne County and another heavily populated Democrat-leaning county to get her over the wall. It's definitely too close to call right now on either side of the ledger.

Is Sanders giving his press conference in the back yard from Home Improvement?

Donna Brazile just said on CNN "If Bernie Sanders wins tonight, we could go until June. We could have another 2008."

Since the delegates are determined proportionately, wouldn't Sanders need a pretty massive win in Michigan to help make this more competitive? Obviously he'll gain delegates, but so will Clinton, so doesn't the whole thing become a wash if they're very close?

The AP is the first to call Michigan for Sanders. Mazel tov on another impressive win, Bernie.

Will be interesting to see more analysis on how virtually every pollster got Michigan so wrong. With a Real Clear poll average of a 20-point win for Hillary projected, tonight's results serve as a reminder to take that proverbial grain of salt with every tea leaf reading. I'm sure we'll be reading more on that over the next few days. For now FiveThirtyEight had this to say:

"There are a few possible explanations for the huge polling miss in the Michigan Democratic primary: For instance, if a significant number of Clinton supporters stayed home out of complacency or crossed over to the Republican primary to oppose Trump, that may have contributed to Sanders’s shocking win. We might get more explanations from pollsters soon — I’ve emailed several who showed Clinton ahead by 10 percentage points or more to ask why they think the polls were so far from the voting results. Here’s another possible explanation: The most recent Michigan polls in our database stopped contacting voters Sunday, the night of the last debate, held in Flint, Michigan. Although many thought Clinton performed better than Sanders in the debate, perhaps voters felt differently. After many pollsters missed Ted Cruz’s Iowa win and suggested that Clinton would win Iowa easily — she won so narrowly that some call it a tie — several pollsters told usa lesson they learned: “Keep on contacting voters as late as possible.” But it’s up to poll sponsors to pay to contact voters until the final days of the race, and none did so in Michigan."

Updated On: 3/9/16 at 12:44 AM

Only if he starts winning big in delegate-rich states. Barely eking out a win doesn't do him any favors. Since Democrats award pledged delegates proportionately (not by winner takes all), he and Clinton will just split the delegates, which will make it harder for him to catch up. On Monday, he had a 200 delegate deficit, and now it's up to 218.

No doubt that barely losing Michigan was a minor setback for Clinton, but she still came out the night's winner, thanks to her major win in Mississippi. At the end of the day, she got 87 delegates to his 69. She actually widened her lead by 18 delegates and now has 762 pledged delegates to his 544.

Next week (when delegate-rich Florida, Illinois, North Carolina, and Ohio vote) should give us a clearer picture whether Sanders' MI win was a fluke and it's the beginning of the end, or if it gave him any momentum.

One narrative the media got wrong was that because Michigan colleges would be on spring break, Sanders would have a problem as his core group of young voters "would all be in Florida or The Virgin Islands." (language from one article I read) But, in reality, most college students on break go home, at least in the Midwest, and having time on their hands, had nothing better to do than go to the polls. Clinton needs to worry about that, because Illinois colleges will be on break for the primary on the 15th. Plus, both Illinois and Ohio are open primaries, which allows independents to skew the Democrats' outcome.

Bernie Sanders or Bust? That's a Stance Based on Privilege.

I'm really disliking Jorge Ramos as moderator. First the e-mails, then Benghazi?

His daughter Paola must be cringing back at campaign HQ.

Where are all the tough/unfair questions for Bernie?

Updated On: 3/9/16 at 10:10 PM

I thought Bernie did a lot better in this debate than he did in the last one. That said, I thought Ramos treated Hillary somewhat unfairly. It was like he was overcompensating because his daughter works for Hillary's campaign. With that conflict of interest, he simply should have recused himself from moderating. But, I guess that's a hard pill for the breakout star of a network to do. It would be like telling Anderson Coops to not moderate any of CNN's debates.

javero said: ""With that conflict of interest, he simply should have recused himself from moderating."

Amen, bruh...and what did you all think of Jorge's question to Hillary regarding a possible indictment?"

Hillary handled it well. I thought it was a ridiculous line of questioning. Just like I think all of the "gotcha" clips and quotes they tried to use on both Hillary and Bernie were ridiculous. I mean, asking Bernie about a very random and inconsequential aside he made in 1985? Dumb, dumb, dumb.