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FindingNamo
#2400Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/9/16 at 11:10pm

Like ragging on Hillary for something her husband did in 1993.

 

It's all just static to my ears at this point.  I don't know how you guys watch this stuff.


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HorseTears
#2401Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/9/16 at 11:17pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "The lady whose husband was deported left the most lasting impression, I think. Her face broke my heart."

 

Yes.  And, even though Bernie had a very good debate, this was a good example of Hillary doing something much better than him - I mean as a candidate, not necessarily in actual policy work.  She personalized the experience.  She spoke directly to the woman, she spoke slowly so that the reporter had time to translate her response to the woman in real time (no way he was able to get in every word Sanders said in his response) and she showed empathy.  I have no doubt that Bernie has enormous empathy for the woman as well, but he didn't show it.  He barely addressed her and pivoted almost immediately from talking about her experience to speaking in much broader, general terms.  It's very possible that Bernie would have the most humane immigration policies out of any candidate - including Hillary - but he didn't communicate that well and he didn't personalize it.  

 

 

As for how we watch this stuff, Namo.  I dunno, I'm not a sports guy.  The horserace is, in a way, my sports.  I find the mechanics of the process; the strategy and execution; the media narrative all fascinating on its own even if it doesn't really affect my choices as a voter.  

 

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javero
#2402Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/9/16 at 11:17pm

What I still don't get is why Jorge Ramos and Maria Elena Salinas kept switching languages as well as the interpreters doing the voice-overs.  I'm certain they used various speakers for voice-overs for both Ramos and Salinas.  As soon as my ear was attuned to one interpreter providing voice-over, in the next segment it would be a different speaker.  Ideally, one interpreter providing voice-over would have been paired with one of the panelists preferably with gender alignment which was not always the case tonight.  As someone who speaks both languages, it annoyed me when the translation in my head was ahead of the interpreter.


#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.

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HorseTears
#2403Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/9/16 at 11:24pm

^ Yeah, Univision did a terrible job on making it a bilingual experience. 

 

 

BTW, in case you're wondering why they're bothering catering to traditionally conservative and Republican-leaning Cuban American voters...

 

After decades of GOP support, Cubans shifting toward the Democratic Party -Pew Research

 

 

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javero
#2404Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/9/16 at 11:30pm

I'm a huge sport enthusiast.  This election cycle has produced the mutha of all contests on the GOP side and a highly entertaining one on the other.


#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.
Updated On: 3/9/16 at 11:30 PM

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Jay Lerner-Z
#2405Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/9/16 at 11:31pm

I've started watching more intently purely so I have more of an understanding of what's going on. Not sure how well this strategy is working for me, but I've been listening to all the "experts" or pundits (pundants is in actual fact not a word) - and I believed them when they said Hillary had it locked up. Or how Trump would never get the nomination. I'm still an ignoramus compared to some of the heavyweights in this thread, but I've got to start somewhere!

 

After flicking to Donald Trump's town hall during the commercials, though, I think I'll reconsider. Back to Charlie Rose (hottest guy on TV) I go.


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javero
#2406Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/9/16 at 11:41pm

The winners & losers http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/09/winners-losers-univision-democratic-debate.html


#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.

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binau
#2407Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 3:18am

Bernie was on FIRE tonight. 



I was surprised when Hillary said that her predecessors also did the same thing RE: her email server activity, and thought it was a bit unfair that she got caught up in this scandal if that was true. But turns out the claim wasn't quite true. Disappointing, Hillary.

 


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/09/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-said-my-predecessors-did-same-thin/

 

 

 


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 3/10/16 at 03:18 AM

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madbrian
#2408Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 8:08am

This report from 538 details the numbers where the pollsters erred in Michigan.

 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-polls-missed-bernie-sanders-michigan-upset/


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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PalJoey
#2409Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 8:17am

 

Karl Rove ran a private SERVER for Bush and Cheney.

 

This entire email thing is 100% bullSH*T.

 

 


Phyllis Rogers Stone
#2410Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 8:54am

Disappointing, Hillary.

 

I do not believe you are disappointed. 

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javero
#2411Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 9:04am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWVrtatl9qk

 

After last night's Univision debate, it's somewhat obvious that Hillary and Bernie are sick of the debates and of each other.  They could use a lil' timeout.


#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.

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HorseTears
#2412Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 9:30am

One of several Bernie Sanders supporters gathered outside the site of Wednesday's Democratic presidential debate.  -Sun Sentinel 

 

Clinton vs. Saunders

 

Is it SouthFL?

FindingNamo
#2413Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 9:51am

What's in the can?


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Phyllis Rogers Stone
#2414Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 10:21am

Income Inequality Flavored Tears.

FindingNamo
#2415Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 10:33am

Or, as I like to call it: Red Bull


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Kad
#2417Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 12:35pm

I was surprised there was a debate just three days after the last. But this one was at least notable for its inclusion of the Latino community- the question from the undocumented mother was moving.

But I agree- no more debates for a while. What's left for them to say?

I also don't need to see Sanders trying to flag down a waiter at Katz's every time Hillary speaks again.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

FindingNamo
#2418Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 12:37pm

loved the way Bernie pronounced it "Moose-lims" like some new Ben & Jerry's flavor.  


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wonderfulwizard11
#2419Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 12:44pm

I agree with Kad- at this point, what more is there to learn about either of these candidates? I think debates are generally good things, but who really is surprised by anything either of them are saying at this point? Granted, the competition is getting closer, but I feel like the debates are just turning into petty sniping on behalf of both of them, and it just feels tiresome.


I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.

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HorseTears
#2420Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 3:55pm

Kad said: "I also don't need to see Sanders trying to flag down a waiter at Katz's every time Hillary speaks again."

 

I genuinely L-O-L'd.  Thanks for that one, Kad.  

 

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PalJoey
#2421Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 6:03pm

 

"Hey, waiter! Waiter! WAITER! Yeah, YOU. Come ova here!"

 

Clinton vs. Saunders


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binau
#2422Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 8:20pm

Sanders is set to lose every state on the 15th. Unless there is a major (unprecented) upset on his part, perhaps this will mark the beginning of the end (if it wasn't already when he first started 50+ points down, haha). 


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 3/10/16 at 08:20 PM

FindingNamo
#2423Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 10:24pm

"Cruz is that doughy-hand health class teacher in HS who touched you lightly on the back one day & you still haven't forgotten it." -- anonymous, sharing more than she probably realizes

 

 


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jrb_actor
#2424Clinton vs. Saunders
Posted: 3/10/16 at 10:48pm

I'm with her. :)



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