clinton vs. sanders your vote?- Page 95

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 3/7/16 at 9:31pm

It's a media conspiracy to discredit him.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 3/7/16 at 10:20pm

If you don't think race and class are related then you have no idea of the history of racial caste systems in this country. It's not me who needs to take the blinders off. 

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 3/7/16 at 10:25pm

And yet the fact remains that Clinton is bigger with minority voters than Sanders.   Are they wearing blinders, too?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/7/16 at 10:36pm

 

DAILY BEAST: The Unbearable Whiteness of Being Bernie

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/07/the-unbearable-whiteness-of-being-bernie.html

 

 

 

[javero]

Posted: 3/7/16 at 11:17pm

It hasn't been all bad for Bernie today.  The NRA backs his position on gun manufacturer liability.  Deets at https://twitter.com/NRA/status/706859878703177728

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 3/7/16 at 11:18pm

BOOM!  Feel the Bullet!

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 12:12am

Sounds like someone else is stuck in the past.  Yes, I am fully aware of the racial caste system in this country, including restrictive covenants that until the 50's at least in my hometown, restricted home ownership to people of a certain pigmentation and religion.  But, when a successful black man is pulled over because he is driving a nice car in Hollywood, Sandra Bland, a middle class black women is killed while in police custody in Texas, and Trayvon Martin (whose family is also middle class) dies because of assumptions about him because of his race, something else is going on.  Obama is an Ivy League educated constitutional lawyer (as is his wife), and a sitting president, is the subject of racial slurs as is his wife.   Clearly we are dealing with something other than just class being the trigger for racial animus.    

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:02am

I often think the media are as irresponsible as the worst of the candidates:

http://fair.org/home/washington-post-ran-16-negative-stories-on-bernie-sanders-in-16-hours/

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:21am

 

Like the pervasive stories about Hillary's non-scandals, it's almost as if there are actual conspiracies to bring down certain candidates at certain times.

 

We know that's not true, but it definitely seems like it. In reality, it's just lazy journalism by lazy journalists, accepting each other's media narratives, and running with them.

 

[madbrian]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:31am

PJ, it's more than just laziness.  Salon's page has been tilted pro-Sanders, anti-Clinton for months now.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:33am

It's difficult to believe the media aren't trying to drive the narrative. Not to a particular conclusion, necessarily, but to create various "story arcs."

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:40am

Reginald Tresilian said: "It's difficult to believe the media aren't trying to drive the narrative. Not to a particular conclusion, necessarily, but to create various "story arcs."

Absolutely, which is why I more or less stopped watching the news and reading candidate stories online.

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[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 9:22am

Yeah, the whole horse race preoccupation that the media has creating and then casting aside various candidates.  The fact that Trump has not had a need to spend hardly any money on advertising is a case in point.  With regard to Bernie and Hillary - I have seen organizations with bias clearly for one or the other - who create click bait to find a way to monetize political commentary.  It started years ago with Fox News, and has spread across various channels, organizations and platforms.

 

[madbrian]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 10:12am

When Sanders's campaign winds down, what can/should HRC offer him?  I don't see him on the ticket, and he's not qualified for the top tier Cabinet posts (State, Def, Treas).  Maybe Labor or Commerce?

[javero]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 10:39am

Certainly not Commerce!!!

 

The International Trade Administration as well as the Patent & Trademark Office are subordinate to Commerce.  His nomination before a GOP-lead Senate would be d.o.a.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 6:55pm

 

Early Mississippi exit poll. on race

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 6:57pm

 

Early Michigan exit poll on trustworthiness:

 

 

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 7:09pm

Barney's getting desperate 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/08/politics/bernie-sanders-lawsuit-ohio-teenage-voters/index.html

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:10pm

Oh, Barney.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:14pm

Oh PalJoey. Can't you see every poll says she's the least trusted most hated Lady Hitler in history? How can you miss that?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:20pm

 

They miss it in Mississippi.

 

 

[HorseTears]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:24pm

madbrian said: "When Sanders's campaign winds down, what can/should HRC offer him?  I don't see him on the ticket, and he's not qualified for the top tier Cabinet posts (State, Def, Treas).  Maybe Labor or Commerce?"

 

Hello, no.  PJ and I covered this upthread.  No cabinet positions for Sanders, please.  We need a, now, very powerful progressive voice like Sanders to remain in the Senate.  This myopic view that the Presidency (and, thereby, executive branch) is the only one that matters is ridiculous. Not saying you, personally, have that view Brian - just that the notion that others are floating, that Bernie would be better off in Hillary's cabinet than in the Senate, is incredibly short-sighted.  Besides which, the only cabinet position he'd be remotely interested in would be the Treasury and there is no ****ing way Hillary's offering him that.  He needs to stay in the Senate with Warren and become the progressive super-duo of Congress.  

 

I think what she can offer him, is, frankly, the same thing he can offer her.  The chance to stump for her throughout the summer, helping sustain his message of economic populism through the convention and the election and securing his legacy as a political figure who helped move the Democratic party further to the left.  I believe they'll both emerge strong from this election and, by staying in the Senate he'll be able to keep the heat on Hillary to uphold all of her progressive campaign promises.  It's a win-win for everyone.   

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:32pm

 

IF...Bernie doesn't pick up his marbles and go home.

 

[adamgreer]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:38pm

Sander is up 51-48 in Michigan with 20% in. That's not what polling showed, but maybe the 4 counties where polls close at 9 will swing the primary to Hillary. 

Updated On: 3/8/16 at 08:38 PM

[HorseTears]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 8:40pm

Look, I was a liberal arts major.  So you may have to dumb this down for me, but help me out here political and statistical wonks.  I know that Trump and Hillary have been declared the winners in Mississippi, which, of course was completely expected.  But how is it that CNN can make that projection with just, according to their site right now, 1% of the votes in?  

 

Updated On: 3/8/16 at 08:40 PM