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[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 2:00pm

Imagine those poor souls who bought the original DVD when it first came out. I knew they would do this. Again Greed rears its ugly head. They could have came out with this originally

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 2:06pm

Hey, I collect lost liner memorabilia so it was practically a necessity for me (and thousands of others, I bet) to own TWO copies of the original DVD... and the widescreen, full-screen, and TV-recorded videos.

Now that I've cooled down quite a bit, I'll only buy the $19.99 special edition DVD (without the coin and film cell).

[Greekmusicalfan]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 2:07pm

I have already pre-ordered my Region 2 4-disc copy. It is released in Europe on November 7 though !

[cturtle]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 2:56pm

i thought i should order the 4-disc set since we have a region-free player, but i don't see anything on the 4th disc that would really be worth the trouble.

[BlueWizard]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 3:19pm

Imagine those poor souls who bought the original DVD when it first came out.

Um, that would be me. I might hold out on this one, if rumours of a future 4-disc release is true.

Does the alternate ending use Cameron's original screenplay for what happens when old Rose is about to toss away the Heart of the Ocean? If so, if I were Cameron I would have burned the negative and locked the ashes away in a vault, because it sounded cheesy as hell!

Who has seen the deleted footage? Anything juicy?

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 3:34pm

Deleted scenes here:

http://www.foxinternational.com/ww/titanic_dvd/

[cturtle]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 6:03pm

i just bought it at SAM'S CLUB for less than $20

[Millie42]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 9:14pm

Well, I just spent a couple hours watching the extras. I LOVE them!

I was so excited to see the deleted scenes because back in the day (yes, I was this obsessed) I printed off and read the complete script, so it was nice to finally see these things on film!

I had to force myself to not start the commentaries, etc.

What a good deal for just $20! I think I spent more than that on the original VHS.

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 9:23pm

I bought it this afternoon at Media Play. For $16, byatch. Hooray for Replay!
And those cells aren't limited to Virgin--I got two. Apparently, Media Play got way too many cells, so they were giving them away to anyone who showed ever vague interest. I got Jack and Rose admiring Jack's sketches and one of them in the dining saloon.
And the "alternate ending" sucked big time. Thank God someone talked James Cameron out of keeping it...
Has anyone else checked out the James Cameron commentary? Is he the insufferable self-centered pr!ck he always is?

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 10:39pm

The commentary with the historians is fascinating to listen to. All the little things that were put in the film to be historically accurate, that nobody would ever know unless pointed out to them, is just extraordinary.

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 11:02pm

I just finished watching the deleted scenes. Most of them are hilariously bad... and I do mean "bad" in a "so bad it's good" sense of the word. Funniest part that was probably not meant to be funny: Old Rose "feeling tired" after the guy cracks a joke about her trying to commit suicide by jumping off the Titanic and then giving the crew 'the hand' when they offer her coffee. Second funniest part: Jack and Rose share a longing kiss in the boiler room immediately after escaping Lovejoy. Third funniest part: Cameron has the third-class immigrants spitting at [White Star Line director] Ismay and mouthing expletives at him as he boards the Carpathia, as if any of them would have known who he was at that point (and worse yet, one of the people talking ****e is a grizzly middle-aged man who probably shouldn't have survived either!). With these scenes, my favorite film of December 1997 could very easily be my favorite campfest of October 2005.

I look forward to watching everything else over the next few days, including the last few moments of the sinking (if only to see whether the haze around the hair was eliminated).
Updated On: 10/25/05 at 11:02 PM

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 11:48pm

Yes, Rose, Cameron is known to be an "insufferable prick." You can read it all over the screenplay (especially the scenes that he was persuaded to leave out). Am I the only one who remembers him shoving his wife (Linda Hamilton of The Terminator) on the Red Carpet at the Oscars and then publicly leaving her shortly thereafter for the woman who played Lizzy Calvert, Rose's granddaughter?

The alternate ending is so bad that its inclusion on this DVD maligns the rest of the film. A barbecue on the deck. Dancing (with very little energy) to blah '90s' music. And that's only the beginning.

[Millie42]

Posted: 10/25/05 at 11:57pm

I definitely remember that, Evelyn.
I hate that someone so insanely talented has be such a jerk. (I have always been amazed that the man drew the Rose portrait (amongst many other talents)... and he did it with his right hand despite being left-handed. I can't even write my name properly with my right hand).

The alternate ending is... just appalling. It makes me appreciate the finished product so much more.
The one good thing about the party on the deck? That one woman that is dancing-- she's rather hilarious.

[BlueWizard]

Posted: 10/26/05 at 12:01am

I knew he left Linda Hamilton (his third wife?) for the younger actress who played Rose's grand-daughter, but I don't recall him pushing her on the red carpet.

What is ol' Cameron doing nowadays, anyway? It's been nearly a decade since he's made a full-length picture. How long is he planning to make those underwater IMAX documentaries?

Just reading about the "alternate ending" makes me cringe. What was Cameron thinking when he put the thing on film, never mind writing it? With an imagination that comes up with, well, that, I'm surprised TITANIC turned out to be a great movie. What landmines were avoided!

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 10/26/05 at 12:10am

Sorry to annoy everyone with way too many posts in one thread, but this special edition DVD has just made my night. I cannot stop laughing (and spilling my cup of Strawberry Crush soda) at those deleted scenes. Seriously, I mentioned a few but there are at least twenty that are just horribly bad.

Cameron has had other projects in the works but none ever come to fruition. He is stuck on Titanic and also afraid that whatever he does next will flop. If you all think he's a jerk based on the SE DVD commentary (and the fact that HE PUT HIMSELF ON THE COVER OF THE DVD), then you really should've seen his televised Titanic documentary from earlier this year. He made some really crass remarks. Also, the point of Ghost of the Abyss was pretty much to say "Titanic and September 11th are equally important tragedies," which is nonsense. This coming from a guy who spent thousands of dollars over nine year on Titanic memorabilia.

[BlueWizard]

Posted: 10/26/05 at 12:25am

I think he also said in one of the TITANIC movie books that its sinking was a more important even than either World War in defining the 20th century.

Updated On: 10/26/05 at 12:25 AM

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 10/26/05 at 1:02am

"Am I the only one who remembers him shoving his wife (Linda Hamilton of The Terminator) on the Red Carpet at the Oscars and then publicly leaving her shortly thereafter for the woman who played Lizzy Calvert, Rose's granddaughter?"

I don't remember it (I'm probably too young) but I don't doubt it happened. And I may be wrong, but I heard that he dumped Suzy Amis (Lizzy) for yet another trophy wife.
I just watched the deleted scenes with commentary. Good Lord, does that man ever pause for breath?

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 10/26/05 at 1:05am

Okay, I was wrong. He is still married to Suzy Amis and has two children with her (and one from his marriage to Linda Hamilton), but Amis *is* his fourth wife.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 10/26/05 at 1:58am

Bought it today! I LOVED this film.

[Mimi Imfurst]

Posted: 10/26/05 at 3:00am

my cells were jack and rose on the front of the ship in the im flying/kiss position. The deleted ending was interesting to say the least.

[Mimi Imfurst]

Posted: 10/26/05 at 3:06am

my cells were jack and rose on the front of the ship in the im flying/kiss position. The deleted ending was interesting to say the least.

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 10/27/05 at 2:15am

"I just watched the deleted scenes with commentary. Good Lord, does that man ever pause for breath?"

I'll get around to watching the commentary this weekend. (Had to put that on hold tonight to watch SUNSET BOULEVARD, another favorite melodrama of mine) But can I assume that Cameron doesn't actually call the deleted scenes bad, but instead talks them up as masterpieces?

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 10/27/05 at 11:18am

More or less, but he does admit that most of them weren't necessary to the plot. Shame, really, because some of them add nicely to Jack and Rose's relationship, which still feels really implausible in the theatrical cut.

[Plum]

Posted: 10/27/05 at 11:43am

Heh. From the sound of it, Titanic really did deserve that Best Editing Oscar. :P

Anyway, as for the multiple DVD releases, the 3-4 disc thing is sleazy, but the second release as a whole isn't so bad. When did Titanic come out on DVD- 1997? The format wasn't as ubiquitous and well-understood as it is today, so I don't think releasing it again with more features 8 years later is entirely a calculated profit grab. Unlike, say the X1 and X1.5 debacle.

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 10/27/05 at 12:32pm

Rose_MacShane, my favorite deleted scene (of the ones that are high quality and not campy-bad) is Rose's venture into third-class in the yellow dress. I love that all of the passengers gradually stop in the middle of their conversations to look at her. This could have worked in the theatrical release but the pacing is fine without it. The scene where Rose tears at her hair in front of the mirror, on the other hand? Campy bad, comparable to Faye Dunaway doing the same to Mara Hobel's hair in Mommie Dearest.

Titanic first came out on DVD in September 1998. (and Plum, you make a great point about how the novelty of DVDs seven years ago suggests that a special edition of this scope probably wouldn't have been imagined back then.)