Yes, but if the role isn't meaty/interesting enough, she won't be on anyone's radar. And certainly no more "out there" of a comment then just assuming she will get a nom simply for originating a role.
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chrishuyen said: "I'm really curious about how Suffs will be because the production at the Public had a lot of promise but needed major edits."
They did an extensive workshop/backers audition in the fall (without Shaina performing in it this time so she could focus on the writing), but I don't know how much it has changed since the Public run, if Jill Furman & co have the $$ in place to move ahead, or if there are theatre owners willing to give them a house.
Of all the recent(ish) Public musicals, I'd frankly prefer David Henry Hwang & Jeanine Tesori's SOFT POWER.
RippedMan said: "You’re all assuming Harmony makes it until June. It doesn’t exactly have the same momentum as most other off Broadway transfers."
It's early and off-bway "momentum" is pretty meaningless (small theatre people bubbles). There's not a show on my list that is a guaranteed hit. What HARMONY does have is Barry Manilow, promoting this show more actively than I expected he might. That's not a 1/1 translation to ticket sales (as we know from plenty of other famous pop stars whose writing efforts have failed on Bway), but pre-opening he makes the show much more press-friendly than Wine & Roses or Suffs or Lempicka.
This is another possibility for a transfer - it's a play about the relationship between Muhammad Ali (Ray Fisher) and Stepin Fetchit (Edwin Lee Gibson) that's opened to strong reviews in LA.
Well, there aren't any obvious ready-to-transfer Off-Broadway hits waiting for a theater this time around, so the 23-24 Broadway season is pretty wide open in terms of awards as of now. That hasn't been the case in a while. Going back to 2014, only 2 Best Musical winners have not originated off-Broadway (Gentleman's Guide and Moulin Rouge). And of those 7 other shows, only Hadestown was not a carbon-copy transfer of its off-Broadway production. And all of those off-Broadway transfers were obvious frontrunners from the get go.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Kad said: "Well, there aren't any obvious ready-to-transfer Off-Broadway hits waiting for a theater this time around, so the 23-24 Broadway season is pretty wide open in terms of awards as of now. That hasn't been the case in a while. Going back to 2014, only 2 Best Musical winners have not originated off-Broadway (Gentleman's Guide and Moulin Rouge). And of those 7 other shows, only Hadestown was not a carbon-copy transfer of its off-Broadway production. And all of those off-Broadway transfers were obvious frontrunners from the get go."
What I’m hearing you say is that you DON’T think “White Girl in Danger” is ready to transfer?
I would love for it to transfer so it could baffle even more audiences and so Tarra Conner Jones could get well deserved recognition for her performance but yeah, seems highly unlikely in the near future.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
To be fair, I did not see it, but all of my friends who did thought it was too long and that the plot was a mess, which is where my not-ready-to transfer comment came from. I love supporting new musicals though, so hopefully they can get the show ready for a transfer!
Evita, Jesus Christ Superstar, Beauty and the Beast, Damn Yankees, Kiss of the Spiderwoman, Pal Joey, The Secret Garden, Spamalot, Light in the Piazza, Dear World, Chess, Cabaret, The Wiz, Merrily We Roll Along
Goddess, Suffs, The Notebook, Water for Elephants, The Great Gatsby, Hells Kitchen, Secret Life of Bees, Come Fall in Love
It just occurred to me that depending on if/when the transfer of A Wonderful World happens, James Monroe Iglehart could be a double nominee in Best Actor in a Musical.
Now that Suffs is officially coming in, we have 11 musicals officially announced for this season that are vying for Best Musical (let alone Lempicka which hasn't announced yet): Back to the Future, Days of Wine and Roses, Gutenberg! The Musical!, Harmony, Here Lies Love, How to Dance in Ohio, The Notebook, Once Upon a One More Time, The Outsiders, Suffs, and Water for Elephants.
ElephantLoveMedley said: "Now thatSuffsis officially coming in, we have 11 musicals officially announced for this season that are vying for Best Musical (let aloneLempickawhich hasn't announced yet):Back to the Future, Days of Wine and Roses, Gutenberg! The Musical!, Harmony, Here Lies Love, How to Dance in Ohio, The Notebook, Once Upon a One More Time, The Outsiders, Suffs, andWater for Elephants.
What a stacked season."
Definitely a stacked season with no real frontrunner which makes it extra interesting. My money is on The Outsiders for now but it really could go so may ways.
On the verge of a new year and with the season more clearly defined, time for new wild speculation!
Best Musical
Days of Wine and Roses
Hell's Kitchen
Here Lies Love
The Notebook
The Outsiders
(alt. How to Dance in Ohio, Water for Elephants, Lempicka, Suffs)
Best Play
Appropriate
Jaja's African Hairstyling
Mother Play
Prayer for the French Republic
The Shark is Broken
(alt. Mary Jane, My Son’s a Queer (But What Can You Do?) )
Best Musical Revival
Cabaret
Gutenberg! The Musical!
Merrily We Roll Along
Spamalot
The Who's Tommy
(alt. The Wiz)
Best Play Revival
An Enemy of the People
Doubt
Purlie Victorious: A Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch
Uncle Vanya
Best Actor in a Musical
Eddie Redmayne - Cabaret
Brian d’Arcy James - Days of Wine and Roses
Chip Zien - Harmony
Jonathan Groff - Merrily We Roll Along
Ali Louis Bourzgui - The Who's Tommy
(alt. Josh Gad, Andrew Rannells - Gutenberg! The Musical!, Grant Gustin - Water for Elephants, Jeremy Jordan - The Great Gatsby)
Best Actress in a Musical
Gayle Rankin - Cabaret
Kelli O’Hara - Days of Wine and Roses
Maleah Joi Moon - Hell's Kitchen
Arielle Jacobs.- Here Lies Love
Nichelle Lewis - The Wiz
(alt. Eden Espinosa - Lempicka, Eva Nobelzada - The Great Gatsby)
Best Actor in a Play
Jeremy Strong - An Enemy of the People
Liev Schrieber - Doubt
Anthony Edwards - Prayer for the French Republic
Leslie Odom, Jr - Purlie Victorious: a Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch
Steve Carell - Uncle Vanya
(alt. Ari Brand - Prayer for the French Republic, Danny DeVito - I Need That, Rob Madge - My Son's a Queer (But What Can You Do?), Jim Parsons - Mother Play)
Best Actress in a Play
Sarah Paulson - Appropriate
Brittany Adebumola - Jaja's African Hair Braiding
Tyne Daly - Doubt
Jessica Lange - Mother Play
Betsy Aidem - Prayer for the French Republic
(alt. Rachel McAdams- Mary Jane, Francis Benhamou - Prayer for the French Republic, Maechi Aharanwa - Jaja's African Hair Braiding)
Best Featured Actor in a Musical
Brandon Victor Dixon - Hell's Kitchen
Liam Pearce - How to Dance in Ohio
Daniel Radcliffe - Merrily We Roll Along
Dorian Harewood - The Notebook
Taran Killiam - Spamalot
(alt. Wayne Brady- The Wiz, Ryan Vasquez - The Notebook, John Cardoza - The Notebook, actors tbd from Cabaret, The Outsiders, Water For Elephants or Tommy)
Best Featured Actress in a Musical
Bebe Neuwirth - Cabaret
Shoshana Bean - Hell's Kitchen
Lindsay Mendez - Merrily We Roll Along
Maryanne Plunkett - The Notebook
Leslie Rodriguez Kritzer - Spamalot
(alt. Deborah Cox - The Wiz, Melody Betts - The Wiz, cast tbh from The Notebook or Tommy)
Best Featured Actor in a Play
Michael Imperioli - An Enemy of the People
Richard Maysur - Prayer for the French Republic
Alex Brightman - The Shark is Broken
Alfred Molina - Uncle Vanya
Jay O. Sanders- Purlie Victorious: a Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch
(alt. William Jackson Harper - Uncle Vanya, Ian Shaw - The Shark is Broken)
Best Featured Actress in a Play
Zoe Kazan - Doubt
Rachel Christopher - Jaja's African Hair Braiding
Celia Keenan-Bolger - Mother Play
Kara Young - Purlie Victorious: a Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch
Alison Pill - Uncle Vanya
(alt. Anika Noni Rose - Uncle Vanya, Quincy Tyler Bernstine - Doubt, Rachel Christopher - Jaja's African Hair Braiding)
Best Director - Musical
Cabaret
Days of Wine and Roses
Here Lies Love
The Notebook
Tommy
(alt. Merrily We Roll Along, Hell's Kitchen)
Best Director - Play
Jaja's African Hairstyling
Mother Play
Prayer For the French Republic
Purlie Victorious: a Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch
Uncle Vanya
(alt. Appropriate, An Enemy of the People, Doubt)
Best Book of a Musical
Days of Wine and Roses
Hell's Kitchen
Here Lies Love
The Notebook
Water for Elephants
(alt. How to Dance in Ohio, Here Lies Love)
Best Score
Days of Wine and Roses
Here Lies Love
The Notebook
The Outsiders
Water for Elephants
(alt. Hell's Kitchen, Harmony, Lempicka, Suffs, How to Dance In Ohio, play tbd)
KevinKlawitter said: "On the verge of a new year and with the season more clearly defined, time for new wild speculation!
Best Play
Appropriate
Jaja's African Hairstyling
Mother Play
Prayerfor the French Republic
The Shark is Broken
(alt. Mary Jane,My Son’s a Queer (But What Can You Do?) )
**"The Shark Is Broken" has a very slim if any chance of making it in to the mix. This seems like a head to head between Appropriate and Prayer for the French Republic - both critical darlings with preceding reptuations.
Best Musical Revival
Cabaret
Gutenberg! The Musical!
Merrily We Roll Along
Spamalot
The Who's Tommy
(alt. The Wiz)
**Probably going to be Merrily's to lose, but I see "The Wiz" getting in over "Gutenberg", depending on how much they change on the road to Broadway and also recency bias.
Best Play Revival
An Enemy of the People
Doubt
Purlie Victorious: A Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch
Uncle Vanya
**Hard to call, but unless any of these other productions is a true knockout or rides the wave of recency bias, I'd be hard pressed to not see Kenny Leon claim another winning Play Revival trophy.
Best Actor in a Musical
Eddie Redmayne - Cabaret
Brian d’Arcy James - Days of Wine and Roses
Chip Zien - Harmony
Jonathan Groff - Merrily We Roll Along
Ali Louis Bourzgui - The Who's Tommy
(alt. Josh Gad, Andrew Rannells - Gutenberg! The Musical!, Grant Gustin - Water for Elephants, Jeremy Jordan - The Great Gatsby)
**Gustin unseen, this whole category feels rather weak to me this year. I was not as knocked out by Zien and Groff as many were. I don't think Gad and Rannells will break in since they come as a matched set.
Best Actor in a Play
Jeremy Strong - An Enemy of the People
Liev Schrieber - Doubt
Anthony Edwards - Prayerfor the French Republic
Leslie Odom, Jr - Purlie Victorious: a Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch
Steve Carell - Uncle Vanya
(alt. Ari Brand - Prayerfor the French Republic, Danny DeVito - I Need That,Rob Madge -My Son'saQueer (But What Can You Do?), Jim Parsons - Mother Play)
**I'm assuming everyone in Prayer for the French Republic is considered Featured until otherwise noted, so swap out Edwards for probably Madge unless they really want to stack the deck and add DeVito, or even expand the category.
Best Actress in a Play
Sarah Paulson - Appropriate
Brittany Adebumola - Jaja's African Hair Braiding
Tyne Daly -Doubt
Jessica Lange - Mother Play
Betsy Aidem - Prayerfor the French Republic
(alt. Rachel McAdams- Mary Jane, Francis Benhamou - Prayer for the French Republic, Maechi Aharanwa - Jaja's African Hair Braiding)
(alt. Wayne Brady- The Wiz, Ryan Vasquez - The Notebook, John Cardoza - The Notebook, actors tbdfrom Cabaret, The Outsiders, Water For Elephants or Tommy)
**I would be shocked if HOW TO DANCE IN OHIO ended up in any major categories since I think it will be closed and long forgotten by awards season. I could see Kyle Ramar Freeman as The Lion in THE WIZ sneaking in, since there is precedent for that role being a nominee (and winner). You also have an embarassment of riches in the SPAMALOT cast and also Ato-Blankson Wood and Steven Skybell for CABARET
Best Featured Actress in a Musical
Bebe Neuwirth - Cabaret
Shoshana Bean - Hell's Kitchen
Lindsay Mendez - Merrily We Roll Along
Maryanne Plunkett - The Notebook
Leslie Rodriguez Kritzer - Spamalot
(alt. Deborah Cox - The Wiz, Melody Betts - The Wiz, cast tbh from The Notebook or Tommy)
**Seems about right. No notes.
Best Featured Actor in a Play
Michael Imperioli - An Enemy of the People
Richard Maysur - Prayer for the French Republic
Alex Brightman - The Shark is Broken
Alfred Molina - Uncle Vanya
Jay O. Sanders- Purlie Victorious: a Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch
(alt. William Jackson Harper - Uncle Vanya, Ian Shaw - The Shark is Broken)
**Move the French Republic actors down here for contention, and switch out Jay O. Sanders for Billy Eugene Jones (although I'd be delighted if both made it in).
Best Featured Actress in a Play
Zoe Kazan - Doubt
Rachel Christopher - Jaja's African Hair Braiding
Celia Keenan-Bolger - Mother Play
Kara Young - Purlie Victorious: a Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch
Alison Pill - Uncle Vanya
(alt. Anika Noni Rose - Uncle Vanya,Quincy Tyler Bernstine- Doubt, Rachel Christopher - Jaja's African Hair Braiding)
**Move the Jaja ladies down to this category, but I think Kara Young may actually be the one to beat here. She will become the first African-American actress to earn three consecutive Tony nominations in three years and she's overdue for a win. It would be history making AND well deserved.
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If Kecia Lewis transfers with Hell's Kitchen, I'd be surprised if she wasn't nominated, and, personally, I'd rather she got in over Shoshana Bean, if it came down to that.
I honestly don’t care who gets nominated, I just want to best Adam Feldman for a second year in a row with my winner predictions. Nothing against him, but it should lead to some playful ribbing.
OK, I'll play. I'm ignoring Stereophonic in acting categories since I don't know where they'll be categorized.
Musical
Noms Hell's Kitchen Here Lies Love Suffs The Notebook Water for Elephants
Contenders Days of Wine and Roses Lempicka The Outsiders
Play
Noms Appropriate Jaja's African Hair Braiding Mother Play Prayer for the French Republic Stereophonic
Contenders Just for Us Mary Jane My Son's a Queer
Play Revival I assume there will be only three
Noms Doubt Purlie Victorious Uncle Vanya
Contender An Enemy of the People
Musical Revival
Noms Cabaret Gutenberg Merrily We Roll Along The Who's Tommy
Contenders Spamalot The Wiz
Leading Actor - Play
Noms Steve Carell - Uncle Vanya William Jackson Harper - Uncle Vanya Leslie Odom, Jr. - Purlie Victorious Jeremy Strong - An Enemy of the People Liev Schreiber - Doubt
Contenders Danny DeVito - I Need That Alex Edelman - Just for Us Eric McCormack - The Cottage Rob Madge - My Son's a Queer...
Leading Actress - Play
Noms Tyne Daly - Doubt Jessica Lange - Mother Play Rachel McAdams - Mary Jane Laura Bell Bundy - The Cottage Sarah Paulson - Appropriate
Contenders Tatiana Maslany - Grey House Laurie Metcalf - Grey House Celia Keenan-Bolger - Mother Play
Leading Actor - Musical
Noms Jonathan Groff - Merrily We Roll Along Brian D'Arcy James - Days of Wine and Roses Ryan Vazquez - The Notebook Eddie Redmayne - Cabaret Chip Zien - Harmony
Contenders Roger Bart - Back to the Future Josh Gad - Gutenberg Andrew Rannells - Gutenberg Grant Gustin - Water for Elephants Brody Grant - The Outsiders Tommy
Leading Actress - Musical
Noms Kelli O'Hara - Days of Wine and Roses Joy Woods - The Notebook Eden Espinoza - Lempicka Gayle Rankin - Cabaret Maleah Joi Moon - Hell's Kitchen
Contenders Arielle Jacobs - Here Lies Love Isabelle McCalla - Water for Elephants Nichelle Lewis - The Wiz Shaina Taub - Suffs
Featured Actor - Play
Noms Jay O. Sanders - Purlie Victorious Michael Imperioli - An Enemy of the People Anthony Edwards - Prayer for the French Republic Jim Parsons - Mother Play Alfred Molina - Uncle Vanya
Contenders Ari Brand - Prayer for the French Republic Alex Moffat - The Cottage Colin Donnell - The Shark is Broken Stereophonic?
Featured Actress - Play
Noms Kara Young - Purlie Victorious Francis Benhamou - Prayer for the French Republic Quincy Tyler Bernstine - Doubt Alison Pill - Uncle Vanya Elle Fanning - Appropriate
Contenders Sophia Anne Caruso - Grey House One of the women from Jaja's African Hair Braiding Betsy Aidem - Prayer for the French Republic Jayne Houdyshell - Uncle Vanya Anika Noni Rose - Uncle Vanya Victoria Pedretti - An Enemy of the People
Featured Actor - Musical
Noms Paul Alexander Nolan - Water for Elephants Ato Blankson-Wood - Cabaret Daniel Radcliffe - Merrily We Roll Along Brandon Victor Dixon - Hell's Kitchen Conrad Ricamora - Here Lies Love
Contenders One of the Spamalot men (I'd vote for Ethan Slater) John Cardoza - The Notebook One of The Outsiders Someone from The Wiz
Featured Actress - Musical
Noms Maryann Plunkett - The Notebook Bebe Neuwirth - Cabaret Lindsay Mendez - Merrily We Roll Along Kecia Lewis - Hell's Kitchen Leslie Rodriguez Kritzer - Spamalot
Contenders Krystal Joy Brown - Merrily Jennifer Simard - Once Upon a One More Time Deborah Cox - The Wiz Shoshana Bean - Hell's Kitchen Someone from Suffs (Grace McLean has a real shot if she stays with it)
Direction - Play
Noms Lila Neugebauer - Appropriate Kenny Leon - Purlie Victorious David Cromer - Prayer for the French Republic Daniel Aukin - Stereophonic Tina Landau - Mother Play
Contenders Whitney White - Jaja's African Hair Braiding Anne Kauffman - Mary Jane Lila Neugebauer - Uncle Vanya Sam Gold - An Enemy of the People
Direction of a Musical
Noms Alex Timbers - Here Lies Love Maria Friedman - Merrily We Roll Along Michael Greif & Schele Williams - The Notebook Rebecca Frecknall - Cabaret Michael Greif - Hell's Kitchen
Contenders Michael Greif - Days of Wine and Roses Jessica Stone - Water for Elephants Danya Taymor - The Outsiders Rachel Chavkin - Lempicka Leigh Silverman - Suffs
Book of a Musical
Noms Days of Wine and Roses The Notebook Water for Elephants Suffs Hell's Kitchen
Contenders Here Lies Love The Outsiders Lempicka
Score
Noms Here Lies Love Days of Wine and Roses The Notebook Suffs The Outsiders
Contenders Water for Elephants Lempicka Hell's Kitchen (if eligible, which probably not)
Thanks for the category clarification, quizking101. I was wondering about that, but I must not have looked hard enough when I was researching potential nominees.
With that in mind, my revised acting categories:
Best Actor in a Play
Jeremy Strong - An Enemy of the People
Liev Schrieber - Doubt
Anthony Edwards - Prayer for the French Republic
Leslie Odom, Jr - Purlie Victorious: a Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch
Rob Madge -My Son's a Queer (But What Can You Do
Best Actress in a Play
Sarah Paulson - Appropriate
Laura Bell Bundy -The Cottage
Tyne Daly -Doubt
Rachel McAdams - Mary Jane
Jessica Lange - Mother Play
Best Featured Actor in a Play
Michaele Imperioli - An Enemy of the People
Anthony Edwards - Prayer for the French Republic
Richard Maysur - Prayer for the French Republic
Alex Brightman - The Shark is Broken
Alfred Molina - Uncle Vanya
Best Featured Actress in a Play
Elle Fanning - Appropriate
Brittany Adebumola - Jaja's African Hair Braiding
Kara Young - Purlie Victorious: a Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch
Francis Benhamou - Prayer for the French Republic
Alison Pill - Uncle Vanya
I agree Featured Actress is probably Young's to lose. She's clearly loved by the voters and she gives an absolutely show-stealing performance. My rationale for including Liam Pearce as a nominee (apart from just being stubborn over liking the show more than most on this board ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ) is that the representation is by a pretty wide margin the thing that has earned the show the most praise, and whether it closes early or not there will probably be pressure on Tony voters to recognize that in some way. (yes that's a little cynical and counter to the show's message, but that's the sort of thinking you run into when your hobby is predicting showbiz industry awards). Liam Pearce is the face of the show in many ways, has the biggest song, and gives a charismatic performance. I would even argue he could potentially be placed in Lead (where, as was mentioned, it's a weaker competition).
There will be more productions announced including Sterophonic and Dear England and The Great Gatsby which nobody is including in their nominations.
I think Gad and Rannels are in for best actor. As well as Maria Friedman for direction. No way shark or cottage get any nominations. Throwing Laura Bell Bundy in there is laughable. Who I love by the way and thought she was great. Here Lies Love is out. The outsiders, the Notebook, days of wine and roses, Suffs, lempicka are in. Hell’s Kitchen, Great gatsby, water for elephants could possibly get in.
I'd love to see Reg Rogers get a featured actor nomination. He's effortlessly spot-on throughout the show, and his delivery of "Folks, it's Funny Girl, Fiddler (with a hint ofTeyve's dance), and Dolly combined" is just so damn perfect. I can't imagine anyone making Joe Josephson as interesting or as memorable as he does.
I think people are really underestimating Gutenberg and Josh and Andrew here, I have talked to a handful of nominators and voters who really loved the show and both of the guys, I don't know if they both get nominated but I think one of the two might slip in that last slot
And now that Sunset is absolutely not coming this season I think Gutenberg ends up in revival over Spamalot and The Wiz
Appropriate premiered over ten years ago, and had a significant Off-Broadway production, so really, it should be deemed a revival. I guess it's a bit of a gray area though, and it would be nice to see BJJ get a Tony Award.
Some of these other predictions are a bit wild though - i.e. Alfred Molina may be a three-time Tony nominee, but his role in Uncle Vanya is relatively thankless and no matter how good he is in it, a nomination for this role is unlikely. Same with Ato Blankson-Wood in Cabaret. The role of Cliff is the most boring of all the principals, and I can't imagine any actor getting nominated for a major award for playing it.