Any word on who will actually be performing for the first few previews? I’m assuming that due to the COVID cancellations there may be some understudies going on.
Any word on who will actually be performing for the first few previews? I’m assuming that due to the COVID cancellations there may be some understudies going on.
jacobsnchz14 said: "List of above the title producers is quite interesting and impressive."
The names mean barely anything in a co-producing capacity. It's frankly tacky. Beyond lead producer Barbara Whitman (FUN HOME) and general manager Marcia Goldberg (321), none of these people are in any kind of decision-making capacity. I doubt that bottom line even has a financial investment in the show and could be glorified "influencers" –– which, if this becomes a trend, could lead to the League making long-overdue stipulations of who is eligible for a Tony (ideally only entities who have raised/invested $750K+, if not just the General Partners).
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "jacobsnchz14 said: "List of above the title producers is quite interesting and impressive."
The names mean barely anything in a co-producing capacity. It's frankly tacky. Beyond lead producer Barbara Whitman (FUN HOME) and general manager Marcia Goldberg (321), none of these people are in any kind of decision-making capacity. I doubt that bottom line even has a financial investment in the show and could be glorified "influencers" –– which, if this becomes a trend, could lead to the League making long-overdue stipulations of who is eligible for a Tony."
The show is selling terribly so they’re desperate for any sort of visibility. Also, I think it’s a shoo-in for Best Musical so these “producers” are essentially buying an expensive trophy.
DaveyG said: "The show is selling terribly so they’re desperate for any sort of visibility. Also, I think it’s a shoo-in for Best Musical so these “producers” are essentially buying an expensive trophy."
If they even have a financial stake in the show, they're simply buying an opportunity to buy an expensive trophy (and association with a worthy endeavor), since they would still have to buy their own trophy. I have no problem with boldfaced people actually investing money into a Broadway show at a producing level (ranging from Diller & Geffen to Oprah and Rosie) –– but if they're not actually investing, it's just crass.
It is not surprising that sales for a show like this are abysmal early in the run. Reviews and awards should help it, but an original musical with bold subject mater is an uphill battle. I wish them well, because this is a show that deserves to be on Broadway.
I know everyone jokes about how many producers are above a title, but this seems a little excessive. Did all those bottom celebs give $1000 just to have their name on the poster?
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ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "DaveyG said: "The show is selling terribly so they’re desperate for any sort of visibility. Also, I think it’s a shoo-in for Best Musical so these “producers” are essentially buying an expensive trophy."
If they even have a financial stake in the show, they're simply buying anopportunityto buy an expensive trophy (and association with a worthy endeavor), since they would still have to buy their own trophy. I have no problem with boldfaced people actually investing money into a Broadway show at a producing level (ranging from Diller & Geffen to Oprah and Rosie) –– but if they're not actually investing, it's just crass.
It is not surprising that sales for a show like this are abysmal early in the run. Reviews and awards should help it, but an original musical with bold subject mater is an uphill battle. I wish them well, because this is a show that deserves to be on Broadway."
My point is that I think this opportunity they’re buying is pretty much a sure thing. If there was any other real contender for Best Musical, I bet we’d see fewer of these names. I do think the show deserves to be on Broadway - I admired it, though I’d never go back for a return visit.
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "BdwyFan said: "Yes but how many of them are actually Tony voters?"
None of the "famous" non-Broadway folks.
And considering the road vote, I have to assume SIX is going to be more appealing than A STRANGE LOOP."
Keep in mind that several years ago, it was revealed that the out-of-town producers only make up about 10% of the voting bloc. So in recent years, we've been seeing the more accomplished piece winning the Tony for Best Musical over the commercial hit like Once winning over Newsies, A Gentleman's Guide to Love & Murder winning over Beautiful, and Fun Home winning over An American in Paris.
Jeffrey Karasarides said: "Keep in mind that several years ago, it was revealed that the out-of-town producers only make up about 10% of the voting bloc. So in recent years, we've been seeing the more accomplished piece winning the Tony for Best Musical over the commercial hit like Once winning over Newsies,A Gentleman's Guide to Love & Murderwinning overBeautiful, andFun Homewinning overAn American in Paris."
Yup, but the difference here when comparing to the above is that SIX is –– arguably –– more artful and has more financial potential (because of its small size), AND A Strange Loop is more niche than any of the titles above. This is not a typical year when comparing to the past. Producers still make up more than 40% of the total voters, which is a largely white and male group of people.
This is wild. I don't understand why (when the first outbreak happened among the cast) they didn't just push back the new first preview date to ten days out from the original one...
WiCkEDrOcKS said: "This is wild. I don't understand why (when the first outbreak happened among the cast) they didn't just push back the new first preview date to ten days out from the original one..."
Because they're in crunch time and if they have enough cast/understudies available to do the show adequately, they will. At this point they've only got 13 previews ahead of Opening (9-10 previews until the press starts coming in).
Jeffrey Karasarides said: "Since Jennifer Hudson is a producer on the show, that means if A Strange Loop wins the Tony for Best Musical, she'll have completed her EGOT."
That's cool! Normally I don't pay put much stock in things like "if xyz happens, they'll have an EGOT" because "xyz" could very well not happen for a while - but in this case, it's very plausible that Strange Loop will win best musical.
I do think it's a bit silly that she'd be winning basically just for sticking her name on the show, rather than winning for something that she actually put her own creative talents into. But an EGOT is an EGOT!
Hoping for the best for this company and their journey to Broadway, but what are the chances we think that Jaquel Spivey will be performing this weekend? I have tickets for this Saturday’s matinee and am wondering now if I should cancel them. I would really love to see him!
I'm coming into the city tomorrow thru Sunday morning and have tickets to see the show Thursday night and also for the Saturday matinee (Fingers crossed it happens). I can post who is in for those shows if they happen.
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and shake the nation,
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wondering why...why?"
Jeffrey Karasarides said: "Since Jennifer Hudson is a producer on the show, that means if A Strange Loop wins the Tony for Best Musical, she'll have completed her EGOT."
*WhenA Strange Loop wins the Tony for Best Musical