After the Tony’s… Broadway show closing death watch — Page 2

Feel like Gypsy will announce a Labor Day closing soon.

whatever2 said: "oh, i can think of one troll who's sure to boop their pants over one particular closing announcement ..."

BWAHAHAHA!!!!

Yes, when a show closes, quite a few people will be out of a job, and I don't celebrate that. At least in the current environment, though, it's likely to be quickly replaced by a new production that will hopefully employ just as many people for a longer run.

With rare exceptions, I don't think anyone here is rooting for a specific show to close, but closing is a fact of life on Broadway. I think most of us would like to see a wide variety of new plays and musicals each season, and if you think about it, that implies that we're hoping for a bunch of older shows to close.

Updated On: 6/10/25 at 11:10 AM

Mr. Wormwood said: "poisonivy2 said: "Feel like Gypsy will announce a Labor Day closing soon."

I do agree that Gypsy will close around Labor Day but I feel like they'll wait a little while to announce so it doesn't seem reactionary to the Tonys results."

Gypsy has previously already been extended to October 5, but who knows?

It's the exact same list of four shows we've been talking about for a month.

• BOOP
• REAL WOMEN HAVE CURVES
• SMASH
• DEAD OUTLAW

All of them are just burning money at this point. And I'm sure CHESS is dying to put tickets on sale.

I could see REAL WOMEN waiting one more week to see if the Tony performance and the cast album release move the needle at all...they won't, but sometimes producers are overly optimistic.

As for others...

• I'm curious to see if GYPSY's Tony performance moved the needle. On one hand it was a gobsmacking acting feat, but does it make sense out of context to the more casual viewer? I don't know. In any case, I assume the Majestic will be available for a show next spring –– I'd be shocked if they have Audra for more than one year (maybe even less), and no star of meaningful sales value should want to follow in her footsteps.
• I wonder if JOHN PROCTOR is regretting its post-Sadie extension now that it went home emptyhanded? It's never done better than $676K, and a 14-person cast isn't tiny. EDIT: it saw a nice 100K bump last week...may it continue!
• STRANGER THINGS is incredibly expensive to run and has a cast of 34. But that's not a normal show: It all depends on how much money Netflix wants to pour into it. It will have a good holiday corridor due to the new season (dropping in 3 parts on Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years), which could also help its numbers in the dark days of Winter 2026, but it has to make it 5.5 months to Thanksgiving first.

Updated On: 6/10/25 at 11:54 AM

If STRANGER THINGS turns out to be a stage trilogy, part one may close soon after the inevitable proshot releases on Netflix.

SMASH it is! Flop after flop for Stro lately!!!

Updated On: 6/10/25 at 06:25 PM

Mr. Wormwood said: "poisonivy2 said: "Feel like Gypsy will announce a Labor Day closing soon."

I do agree that Gypsy will close around Labor Day but I feel like they'll wait a little while to announce so it doesn't seem reactionary to the Tonys results."

No one would keep investing a penny in something because of how it may "feel".

And the real vultures are the producers and their ridiculous ticket prices for their "meh" shows. If they shamelessly charge whatever, then predicting its demise it's against them, not the artists and creatives.

Yeah, ATG really jacked up Sunset, but it does seem their dynamic pricing drops back into more reasonable range 24-48 hours of the show if availability is still pretty high.

Updated On: 6/10/25 at 08:13 PM

"No one is betting or rooting or even giggling on the inevitable."

Robbie2 said: "SMASH it is! Flop after flop for Stro lately!!!"

blaxx said: "Mr. Wormwood said: "poisonivy2 said: "Feel like Gypsy will announce a Labor Day closing soon."

I do agree that Gypsy will close around Labor Day but I feel like they'll wait a little while to announce so it doesn't seem reactionary to the Tonys results."

No one would keep investing a penny insomething because of how it may "feel".

And the real vultures are the producers and their ridiculous ticket prices for their "meh" shows. If they shamelessly charge whatever,then predicting its demise it's against them, not the artists and creatives."

I was talking about when they announce the closing, not when they actually close. I agreed that Gypsy will close around Labor Day. I just don't think they're going to announce yet for optics reasons. That doesn't have to do with how long a producer is investing money...

Matt Rogers said: "Robbie2 said: "SMASH it is! Flop after flop for Stro lately!!!"

Don’t worry about it. One of the licensing houses is going to pay a hefty acquisitionadvance and then everyone is going to clean up when stock and amateur licensing rights are released."

This is what people forget when they talk about a show flopping these days. In the new media and licensing era, a show has four quadrants from which to make money.

1. NYC debut to gain notice and legitimacy.

2. Available audio recording to keep the songs known

3. Post-NYC top tier production (major regional premiere and/or tour)

4. Licensing houses

These quadrants may not guarantee cash flow as quickly as a highly successful NYC run, but they exist, and it's how shows like Legally Blonde eventually reversed their flop status. Any major producer today is likely to have factored in all four quadrants in their initial monetization.