After the Tony’s… Broadway show closing death watch- Page 2

[dramamama611]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 9:45am

I don't have an issue with the thread either, albeit the title is a bit harsh.

 

No one is betting or rooting or even giggling on the inevitable. But it is part of the biz. If the subject tois too sensitive for you, don't open the thread.

Updated On: 6/10/25 at 09:45 AM

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 10:48am

Feel like Gypsy will announce a Labor Day closing soon.

[whatever2]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 10:51am

dramamama611 said: "No one is betting or rooting or even giggling on the inevitable. But it is part of the biz. If the subject tois too sensitive for you, don't open the thread."

oh, i can think of one troll who's sure to boop their pants over one particular closing announcement ...

[The8re phan]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 11:05am

whatever2 said: "oh, i can think of one troll who's sure to boop their pants over one particular closing announcement ..."

BWAHAHAHA!!!!   

[Mr. Wormwood]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 11:08am

poisonivy2 said: "Feel like Gypsy will announce a Labor Day closing soon."

I do agree that Gypsy will close around Labor Day but I feel like they'll wait a little while to announce so it doesn't seem reactionary to the Tonys results. 

[kdogg36]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 11:10am

Yes, when a show closes, quite a few people will be out of a job, and I don't celebrate that. At least in the current environment, though, it's likely to be quickly replaced by a new production that will hopefully employ just as many people for a longer run.

With rare exceptions, I don't think anyone here is rooting for a specific show to close, but closing is a fact of life on Broadway. I think most of us would like to see a wide variety of new plays and musicals each season, and if you think about it, that implies that we're hoping for a bunch of older shows to close. 

Updated On: 6/10/25 at 11:10 AM

[Sethwp2]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 11:29am

bear88 said: "DrMonicaDeMoneco wants another chance to guess thatJust in Timewill close right after the Tonys."

Wait, You mean the show that's been extended until end of Novem-- oh sorry, extended twice, until mid January?! Surely you're talking about a different Just in Time, not THIS one that's grossing near a million dollars a week and playing to full capacity. The one that got to perform on the Tonys even though it wasn't nominated for Best Musical lol

"Wait, it's still open?!" Umm... that's a resounding yes.  SMH

[Sethwp2]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 11:34am

Mr. Wormwood said: "poisonivy2 said: "Feel like Gypsy will announce a Labor Day closing soon."

I do agree that Gypsy will close around Labor Day but I feel like they'll wait a little while to announce so it doesn't seem reactionary to the Tonys results."

Gypsy has previously already been extended to October 5, but who knows?

[mrshowbiz90210]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 11:52am

The8re phan said: "whatever2 said: "oh, i can think of one troll who's sure to boop their pants over one particular closing announcement ..."

BWAHAHAHA!!!!"

ask and you shall receive darling, one bag just for you    

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 11:54am

It's the exact same list of four shows we've been talking about for a month.

• BOOP
• REAL WOMEN HAVE CURVES
• SMASH
• DEAD OUTLAW

All of them are just burning money at this point. And I'm sure CHESS is dying to put tickets on sale.

I could see REAL WOMEN waiting one more week to see if the Tony performance and the cast album release move the needle at all...they won't, but sometimes producers are overly optimistic.

As for others...

• I'm curious to see if GYPSY's Tony performance moved the needle. On one hand it was a gobsmacking acting feat, but does it make sense out of context to the more casual viewer? I don't know. In any case, I assume the Majestic will be available for a show next spring –– I'd be shocked if they have Audra for more than one year (maybe even less), and no star of meaningful sales value should want to follow in her footsteps.
• I wonder if JOHN PROCTOR is regretting its post-Sadie extension now that it went home emptyhanded? It's never done better than $676K, and a 14-person cast isn't tiny. EDIT: it saw a nice 100K bump last week...may it continue!
• STRANGER THINGS is incredibly expensive to run and has a cast of 34. But that's not a normal show: It all depends on how much money Netflix wants to pour into it. It will have a good holiday corridor due to the new season (dropping in 3 parts on Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years), which could also help its numbers in the dark days of Winter 2026, but it has to make it 5.5 months to Thanksgiving first.

Updated On: 6/10/25 at 11:54 AM

[Mr. Wormwood]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 12:03pm

^^

I don't think John Proctor is regretting their decision. If it was dependant on the Tonys,  they probably would have waited to announce an extension. The numbers are good for the Booth Theatre and whoever replaces Sadie Sink will likely be cheaper (unless it's a name who will then sell more tickets)

I think Netflix will definitely keep Stranger Things running through the holidays at least when the new season releases.

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 1:07pm

If STRANGER THINGS turns out to be a stage trilogy, part one may close soon after the inevitable proshot releases on Netflix.

[THDavis]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 6:23pm

Looks like Smash is our first to announce, with a final performance June 22nd. Best wishes to the cast, crew, and house staff!

[Robbie2]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 6:25pm

SMASH it is! Flop after flop for Stro lately!!!

Updated On: 6/10/25 at 06:25 PM

[DrMonicaDeMoneco]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 6:43pm

THDavis said: "Looks like Smash is our first to announce, with a final performance June 22nd. Best wishes to the cast, crew, and house staff!"

wow smash before boop and dead outlaw

 

[blaxx]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 7:53pm

Mr. Wormwood said: "poisonivy2 said: "Feel like Gypsy will announce a Labor Day closing soon."

I do agree that Gypsy will close around Labor Day but I feel like they'll wait a little while to announce so it doesn't seem reactionary to the Tonys results."

No one would keep investing a penny in something because of how it may "feel".

And the real vultures are the producers and their ridiculous ticket prices for their "meh" shows. If they shamelessly charge whatever, then predicting its demise it's against them, not the artists and creatives.

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 8:08pm

blaxx said: "Mr. Wormwood said: "poisonivy2 said: "Feel like Gypsy will announce a Labor Day closing soon."

I do agree that Gypsy will close around Labor Day but I feel like they'll wait a little while to announce so it doesn't seem reactionary to the Tonys results."

No one would keep investing a penny insomething because of how it may "feel".

And the real vultures are the producers and their ridiculous ticket prices for their "meh" shows. If they shamelessly charge whatever,then predicting its demise it's against them, not the artists and creatives."

Speaking of ticket prices and shamelessly charging whatever, have you seen what the ticket prices of Sunset Blvd are now going for? And as for Smash, I have seen it multiple times and have never paid more than $69.00 per ticket for front row rear mezz which were great seats. 

[SteveSanders]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 8:13pm

Yeah, ATG really jacked up Sunset, but it does seem their dynamic pricing drops back into more reasonable range 24-48 hours of the show if availability is still pretty high.

Updated On: 6/10/25 at 08:13 PM

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 8:33pm

Robbie2 said: "SMASH it is! Flop after flop for Stro lately!!!"

Don’t worry about it. One of the licensing houses is going to pay a hefty acquisition advance and then everyone is going to clean up when stock and amateur licensing rights are released. 

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 8:36pm

"No one is betting or rooting or even giggling on the inevitable."

Robbie2 said: "SMASH it is! Flop after flop for Stro lately!!!"

 

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 8:44pm

SteveSanders said: "Yeah, ATG really jacked up Sunset, but it does seem their dynamic pricing does drop back into more reasonable range 24-48 hours of the show if availability is still pretty high."

Not to derail the thread, but I was thinking of revisiting Sunset tonight. I’ve seen it a few times already. Seats in the mezz that used to go for $79.00 were priced at over $200. The only seats available under $100 were in that terrible balcony up in the stratosphere, and when I say under $100, I mean $99. No thanks. 

[Mr. Wormwood]

Posted: 6/10/25 at 8:54pm

blaxx said: "Mr. Wormwood said: "poisonivy2 said: "Feel like Gypsy will announce a Labor Day closing soon."

I do agree that Gypsy will close around Labor Day but I feel like they'll wait a little while to announce so it doesn't seem reactionary to the Tonys results."

No one would keep investing a penny insomething because of how it may "feel".

And the real vultures are the producers and their ridiculous ticket prices for their "meh" shows. If they shamelessly charge whatever,then predicting its demise it's against them, not the artists and creatives."

I was talking about when they announce the closing, not when they actually close. I agreed that Gypsy will close around Labor Day. I just don't think they're going to announce yet for optics reasons. That doesn't have to do with how long a producer is investing money...

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 6/11/25 at 7:51am

Matt Rogers said: ""Not to derail the thread, but I was thinking of revisiting Sunset tonight. I’ve seen it a few times already.Seats in the mezz that used to go for $79.00 were priced at over $200. The only seats available under $100 were in that terrible balcony up in the stratosphere, and when I say under $100, I mean $99. No thanks."

The first post-Tonys show after a lot of wins is a bad time to look for an affordable ticket. It was already very well sold before Sunday from all the fans who expected it and Nicole to win and bought in advance to be there. It's not at all surprising the remaining seats would have been in high demand and the dynamic pricing kept the prices high.

Updated On: 6/11/25 at 07:51 AM

[darquegk]

Posted: 6/11/25 at 9:38am

Matt Rogers said: "Robbie2 said: "SMASH it is! Flop after flop for Stro lately!!!"

Don’t worry about it. One of the licensing houses is going to pay a hefty acquisitionadvance and then everyone is going to clean up when stock and amateur licensing rights are released."

This is what people forget when they talk about a show flopping these days. In the new media and licensing era, a show has four quadrants from which to make money. 

1. NYC debut to gain notice and legitimacy.

2. Available audio recording to keep the songs known

3. Post-NYC top tier production (major regional premiere and/or tour)

4. Licensing houses

These quadrants may not guarantee cash flow as quickly as a highly successful NYC run, but they exist, and it's how shows like Legally Blonde eventually reversed their flop status. Any major producer today is likely to have factored in all four quadrants in their initial monetization.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 6/11/25 at 11:16am

While these things are essentially true, the show is STILL a flop on Bway.    That doesn't change.   And not all shows get picked up on a massive scale.   How many productions of Bad Cinderella have there been?  Or Lempicka?  (Granted, I don't know if either of them are even yet available - they just happen to be two big flops that jumped into my head.)