Posted: 4/9/07 at 6:21pm
by the way, i have this pet peeve concerning the phrase "as far as..." no, more than a peeve; it should be offensive to the ear of anyone with an appreciation for the English language to hear "as far as..." as a complete phrase! the verbless phrase, "as far as Elton John's contribution" MAKES NO SENSE. as far as the rafters? as far as Connecticut? as far as you can throw it? as far as the moon over miami on a cold day in july? or "as far as it IS CONCERNED?" anyone considering a career in the theatre, as playwright, actor, producer, director, etc. should have enough respect for the language to know when it is being grossly misused. and that goes for using the pronoun "I" as the object of a sentence or phrase as well! think it through: if you say, "all of that criticism came crashing down on Deardra and I," would you also say, "all of that criticism came crashing down on I?"
your use of the language is, quite literally, WHO YOU ARE.
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Posted: 4/9/07 at 8:06pm
Schlozinski, we're not really talking about the same show, since the director, designer, book writer, some of the songs and some of the cast were changed between the Atlanta and Broadway versions. I also believe that we're far more than our use of language.
Updated On: 4/9/07 at 08:06 PM
Posted: 4/9/07 at 8:18pm
consider: in the beginning, there was the word... consider the tower of babel and the nature of schizophrenia. consider how you've learned what you know, and consider how you perform the act of consideration.
if you were incapable of understanding the word, 'gestalt,' would you be part of it? for pete's sake, people talk to cats (and sometimes call them 'pete') and attempt to make sense of cats' behavior not by becoming 'cat-like' but in language! human experience is not only shaped by metaphor, it is defined by it.
and i'm not speaking of either misguided project (a crowd-pleaser is not necessarily good theatre; in fact, it only rarely is). i'm comparing the source material to the original work. Disney's Aida is hardly on par with West Side Story as a contemporary interpretation of Shakespeare.
but i suppose most people miss the alegorical nature of the source material for "Cats" as well.
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Capnhook needs to ceck his sources.
Check the The Thomas Schumacher ATW Podcast
Posted: 4/9/07 at 11:08pm
you have completely missed the relationship between grammar and theatre -- or elaborate lives and aida, the latter being an opera, the former being a mistake ( in both cases, i might add ). you'll have to do backflips to convince me that the incomplete phrase i note or the improper use of a pronoun does not reflect the posters' frame of reference when attempting to judge the merits of a stage production.
i fully expected many of you to be taken aback by my comments. i used the comments here to point to a larger issue. classic, living, interpretable, and even merely good theatre's essential element is its ability to inform one's passions through words, form and music, with the truths behind them and/or from a point of view one may not have considered. the disney work does neither; it merely edifies a consensus view of virtue and vice, good and evil, "true love," etc. With Aida (or elaborate lives, if you will), Disney has turned the source work into "guess who's coming to dinner."
the comments i read here have little to do with the actual quality of the show. they mirror the thinking of disney, ie, will this show get asses in seats? first tell me you can't imagine it as a "full length animated production" with a G rating. then tell me that any adult familiar with guiseppe verdi and maria callas should consider the narrow topic herein more important than the the idea that audience acceptance of this claptrap as a work of art, the degradation of language (e.g., compare the lyrics of 1960's 'carnival'), and the fact that most of you are more deeply influenced by feel-good commercial endorsements than those who might inform you.
note: you'd be wise to consider more than what you already know (or think you know) about the relationship between language and consciousness (there is no relationship: they are one and the same! haven't you ever considered the term, homo sapiens sapiens??). also note that your certainty that you weren't the only one taken aback speaks to a reliance on the opinions of others rather than critical thinking to reckon the position of your pied a terre. please don't presume to lecture me on where to look for realizations of any sort?
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Posted: 4/10/07 at 2:02am
I think that a revival of this could be potentially very good, but it would have to be at least a decade before that was even considered. Plus, don't we want NEW shows?! Ones that are good?
"The opposite of war isn't peace; it's creation!" ~Rent
Future Mark.
Posted: 4/10/07 at 2:17am
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Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:22pm
was it supposed to be?
Posted: 4/10/07 at 7:00pm
That being said; I still find that Aida is plagued with some very big problems-one being the book and the other being the lack of Subtext in the Lyrics.
Updated On: 4/10/07 at 07:00 PM
Posted: 4/11/07 at 11:46am
[just playin' with ya, because your language is who YOU ARE.
--Aristotle
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Posted: 2/24/08 at 4:15pm
-Jeff Bowen's worst onstage line flub.
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Summary: An Ethiopian princess, Aida, is enslaved in Egypt where she falls for a young warrior, Radames, who is being pursued by the Pharaoh's daughter.
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Posted: 2/25/08 at 9:16am
Cut "The Past is Another Land." It's boring. She only sings it during a scene change. It tells us nothing we don't already know from the book--- anguish.
If you make Zoser a stronger character, more specific, then "Another Pyramid" will work.
Cut the Fashion Show Dance break or turn it into something that establishes a relationship between Aida and Amneris. You can't go from "Aida! Sewing Room! NOW!" to "My Strongest Suit Reprise." It's not credible; this sister bond they suddenly have.
Act I feels like it should end after "Elaborate Lives." I love "Gods Love Nubia," but it just feels like fluff.
Keep everything else. Get someone to tweak the book though. The choreography could help tell the story. Maybe Bill T. Jones.
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