Another possible strike, but this one WILL effect Boadway- Page 2

[perfectpenguin]

Posted: 7/19/23 at 8:46pm

PabloJuan said: "Someone on Reddit listed this link to IATSE and stated that it only included pink contract Broadway shows. It is obviously out of date as it lists Bad Cinderella. It does not list Aladdin or Camelot. Could this be a clue to which shows would shut down and which would not?

https://iatse.net/yellow-cards/broadway-shows/

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I don’t have an answer to your question but I had the same question. I went through that list quickly so I might have missed something. The shows not listed are: 

Aladdin

The Book of Mormon

The Cottage

Just for Us

Camelot 

[PabloJuan]

Posted: 7/19/23 at 9:03pm

PerfectPenguin said:
“https://iatse.net/yellow-cards/broadway-shows/

I don’t have an answer to your question but I had the same question. I went through that list quickly so I might have missed something. The shows not listed are: 

Aladdin

The Book of Mormon

The Cottage

Just for Us

Camelot ”

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The book of Mormon is on that IATSE pink contract page. 

Someone on the Reddit posting stated that Aladdin is likely not under pink contracts because Disney theatricals owns the theater and produces the show. So they can use their own in-house staff for the show. The person on Reddit stated that the Lion King was likely under a pink contract, because Disney does not own the theater. So Disney had to hire outside IATSE staff for the show. The pink contracts are for individuals hired by the producer, not the theater.  

Updated On: 7/19/23 at 09:03 PM

[angoradebs]

Posted: 7/19/23 at 9:09pm

The Book of Mormon is on there; it's just alphabetized using "The" instead of "Book"

[perfectpenguin]

Posted: 7/19/23 at 9:20pm

angoradebs said: "The Book of Mormon is on there; it's just alphabetized using "The" instead of "Book""

Thank you! I missed it! 

[kingjames2]

Posted: 7/19/23 at 9:39pm

HogansHero said: 
Another thing worth noting (although my recollection may be off and hopefully someone can confirm since it's been a while) is that, because the strike vote relates only to the pink contract (covering show only labor hired by producers) and not to the house stage hands who are employed by the theatre owner, a rental in a non-signatory house still binds the producer to the league contract. Likewise, an owner producing in an unowned venue is still just a producer. This considerably shrinks the list that has been posted.

Yes- this is correct. For instance, Fat Ham was produced in the AA (Roundabout, not league) but as No Guarantees is a league producer, it was done under the league contract (and included several pink contract stagehands).

[PabloJuan]

Posted: 7/19/23 at 9:41pm

On a Reddit forum, someone suggested that these 16 touring companies would shut down if IATSE has a Strike:

Ain't Too Proud

Aladdin

Frozen

Hadestown

Hamilton - And Peggy

Hamilton - Philip

Into the Woods

Jagged Little Pill

Les Misérables

Moulin Rouge! The Musical

SIX - Aragon

Six - Boleyn

The Lion King - Rafiki

Tina

To Kill a Mockingbird

Wicked - Munchkinland

The trade papers are stating that 17 tours will shut down. Does anyone know what the missing one might be and whether this list is accurate? I believe that the producers would have to send everybody home and then bring them back when the strike concludes.

[kingjames2]

Posted: 7/19/23 at 9:45pm

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[BwayLB]

Posted: 7/19/23 at 9:55pm

The last time Broadway was on strike, I was 14. I just didn’t think it would happen again in my lifetime. Just in case it does happen

[Jakeevan942]

Posted: 7/19/23 at 9:56pm

PabloJuan said: "On a Reddit forum, someone suggested that these 16 touring companies would shut down if IATSE has a Strike:

Ain't Too Proud

Aladdin

Frozen

Hadestown

Hamilton - And Peggy

Hamilton - Philip

Into the Woods

Jagged Little Pill

Les Misérables

Moulin Rouge! The Musical

SIX - Aragon

Six - Boleyn

The Lion King - Rafiki

Tina

To Kill a Mockingbird

Wicked - Munchkinland

The trade papers are stating that 17 tours will shut down. Does anyone know what the missing one might be and whether this list is accurate? I believe that the producers would have to send everybody home and then bring them back when the strike concludes."

 

I think the missing tour is 1776. Though it is sort-of Roundabout/LORT, it is a Networks-run League-contracts tour.

Of note on the road: Into the Woods closes in a week and a half. 1776 closes in 3 and a half weeks. Six Aragon closes in a week and a half, with the physical assets going to the Mirvish-produced, Canadian contracts mini-tour. Hamilton And Peggy company is functioning as the Toronto sit-down, and closes in 4 weeks. Mockingbird is on layoff until August. 

If the road strikes, the first 4 above will probably just shut down early, and with 1 on layoff, it's only 12 tours to stop and restart.

[felixleiter]

Posted: 7/19/23 at 10:16pm

BwayLB said: "The last time Broadway was on strike, I was 14. I just didn’t think it would happen again in my lifetime. Just in case it does happen"

FWIW, I really think that the chances of them not coming to an agreement are fairly low.  The two sides have already hammered out some compromises on a lot of the issues.  I think this authorization vote will serve to bring The league back to the table to bang out the rest.  

[RUkiddingme]

Posted: 7/19/23 at 11:04pm

If there really is a chance of a strike in 2 days shouldn't this be a story on the news?  Like a top story?

[HogansHero]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 12:02am

I think a strike is unlikely in 2 days. I expect that there will be bargaining that will extend a strike call and most likely an agreement in another week or so.

[DiscoCrows]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 12:20am

HogansHero said: "PabloJuan said: "Is it possible that they settle a new contract with the Broadway league and not with Disney or vice versa? Has that ever happened? If they settled with the Broadway league, but not with Disney, would that mean that only certain Broadway shows would be shut down?"

This is one I can answer! By agreement, the League is negotiating for Disney.

Another thing worth noting (although my recollection may be off and hopefully someone can confirm since it's been a while) is that, because the strike vote relates only to the pink contract (covering show only labor hired by producers) and not to the house stage hands who are employed by the theatre owner, a rental in a non-signatory house still binds the producer to the league contract. Likewise, an owner producing in an unowned venue is still just a producer. This considerably shrinks the list that has been posted.

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I think you’re right! The list above confused me, in my mind I had thought something like Cottage which operates in a non-profit house, but importantly on a Production contract show, would absolutely be affected. Different story though if we were talking about Local One I suppose though? I see where this is confusing people.

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 1:45am

Oh God! Looks like it might be happening! 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu58XRkO4Cf/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[Mr. Wormwood]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 3:20am

Dylan Smith4 said: "Oh God! Looks like it might be happening!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu58XRkO4Cf/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA=="

That post has no new information...

[dramamama611]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 4:38am

Mr. Wormwood said: "Dylan Smith4 said: "Oh God! Looks like it might be happening!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu58XRkO4Cf/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA=="

That post has no new information..."

None at all.. we already knew that a vote was there. This is putting ducks in a row,  just in case they feel the need to do so. Even if 100% of the voter say yes, that doesn't mean a strike happens on Friday or any predetermined dated.  Just that the members support taking the action if necessary  

[jkcohen626]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 8:41am

dramamama611 said: "Mr. Wormwood said: "Dylan Smith4 said: "Oh God! Looks like it might be happening!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu58XRkO4Cf/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA=="

That post has no new information..."

None at all.. we already knew that a vote was there. This is putting ducks in a row, just in case they feel the need to do so. Even if 100% of the voter say yes, that doesn't mean a strike happens on Friday or any predetermined dated. Just that the members support taking the action if necessary"

Although, to be fair to Dylan, that post is definitely not clear enough that an authorization vote is not a vote to start a strike. 

[uncageg]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 9:24am

RUkiddingme said: "If there really is a chance of a strike in 2 days shouldn't this be a story on the news? Like a top story?"

It was the second report on Channel 4 (NBC) at 11:00 last night. It also hit a paper in Denver regarding the incoming tire production of "Jagged Little Pill". 

 

[Fosse76]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 11:21am

uncageg said: "RUkiddingme said: "If there really is a chance of a strike in 2 days shouldn't this be a story on the news? Like a top story?"

It was the second report on Channel 4 (NBC) at 11:00 last night. It also hit a paper in Denver regarding the incoming tire production of "Jagged Little Pill".

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It's also on CNN.

[seaweedjstubbs]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 12:07pm

A tentative deal has been reached, according to an email from Actors Equity. Strike averted.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 12:49pm

Wonderful news!

[dramamama611]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 1:10pm

Odd: GMA 3 is still reporting of the possibility of a strike. I guess no press release yet?

[PabloJuan]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 1:40pm

It is fortunate that Broadway will not shut down. We will probably never know for sure which two shows were not under pink contracts from the 30 currently running shows on Broadway. All evidence points to Camelot and Aladdin. So if the strike happened and lasted over a week, Aladdin would be the only show on Broadway.

[felixleiter]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 1:51pm

FYI-Hairstylists  and Makeup artists on Broadway (Local 798) have been working without a contract for the better part of 3 years and are also in a tense negotiation with the League.  We may not be out of the woods with Organized Labor fighting for their rights this summer in regards to Broadway shows. 

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 7/20/23 at 3:01pm

felixleiter said: "FYI-Hairstylists and Makeup artists on Broadway (Local 798) have been working without a contract for the better part of 3 years and are also in a tense negotiation with the League. We may not be out of the woods with Organized Labor fighting for their rights this summer in regards to Broadway shows."

They have until Tuesday to try and strike a deal, I believe? The industry could still technically shut down next week…