Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
#75Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:52am
"I finally went to check out the article. It's stupid in its entirety and, I suppose, an attempt at humor. There is nothing racist or "whitewashed" about it. The (moronic) writer just made up a bunch of what ifs for his favorite b'way figures. There is nothing meaningful or hurtful in it at all.
Yes, persons of color are under represented on the b'way stage, but I don't see that this article has anything to do with that. Heck, it doesn't even deserve to be read. IF anything, write to the author and ask him why he didn't include any women of color. Who knows, maybe he did originally, and they edited it for fear THOSE comments would "seem" racist.
"
And I highly doubt Dallas Summer Musicals cast Paul Schoeffler as The King with any malice, but a whole lot of insensitivity and naïveté. This is basically a mini version the same thing -- a small, pat, microcosmic example of a much bigger issue. Please don't tell people what doesn't count as hurtful. Pop culture informs and IS culture, on all sorts of bigger and small scales.
Even if you don't like/care/scoff at a site, a lot of other people do read it and think of it a lot more highly (or more frequently) than you might.
Dave19
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/11
#76Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:55am
"Can't you imagine the thought process? They most likely thought it would be a stereotypical negative to put black actors in there. And they would've gotten away with it too if Ivy didn't have black hands."
I can imagine the thought process of creating a little personal list of types/names/actresses you are a fan of, without thinking of pleasing everyone.
They most likely did not think anything else.
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#77Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 10:00am
Dave, you said you were done and then proceeded to post again. Please let us have an intelligent conversation. You're not needed here.
I'm not upset about the sexuality, I'm upset about the race. They purposely only chose white women when it is a show where the white women are the minority. I genuinely don't understand why you're trying to defend them.
Just because there isn't malice in the intent doesn't mean it's okay. They need to be aware of the content they're putting out there, especially since they are Broadway.com, which many people who don't know better assume is the official site of Broadway.
#78Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 10:04am
I still think this is all a plot to get us to click on Broadway.com.
Hairspray0901
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/29/08
#79Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 12:06pm
I actually saw this article / photo pop up on my newsfeed and thought it looked really stupid. Whoever photoshopped it should be fired. I'm not disgusted over the fact that they didn't include any black actresses (they should have, but I'm not angry about it) but, really...that photoshop job is terrible. If you're going to place all those white heads on those bodies, at least crop it so Samira Wiley & Uzo Aduba's hands aren't there.
Here is the original photo Broadway.com decided to make into a photoshop mess...
Showface
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
#80Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 12:24pm""
Actually no, do you even read?
The percentage of black oscar winners is higher than the actual percentage of the black population
Since when?
Dave19
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/11
#81Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 8:31pm
"""
Actually no, do you even read?
The percentage of black oscar winners is higher than the actual percentage of the black population
Since when? "
Since years. 14% versus 12% to be exact. Is that a problem? Should we organise white-reel awards to make up for the difference?
Dave19
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/11
#82Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 8:48pm
"I'm not disgusted over the fact that they didn't include any black actresses (they should have, but I'm not angry about it) but, really...that photoshop job is terrible..
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No, they should not have. It is a list about someone's favourite types/actresses. If there happens to be no black person in that short list, so be it. No one should have to change their opinion about what personalities he or she likes, to please a bunch of people who choose to look only at race.
Yes, the photoshop is not professionally done, but that was the whole point of this list of showbizz personalities that he would like to see perform as inmates in a show. I actually love the list, as it would indeed be hilarious to see those personalities play inmates in a show like that.
I'm astonished that some people actually have the balls to pull the race card here. That is really rude and racist. And it is actually pathetic to have a notebook and count the amount of black people in a show and wanting to make sure that every parody, or random list of a person's favourite personalities follows that count. Please stop teaching our children that black people are less worthy. Not being included in everything is not bad, making a fuss when not being included in everything is bad.
This is not particularly meant for you, but to all the racists in this thread. And yes, "race first thinking" makes you a racist.
#83Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:22pm
May I ask where you live?
ebontoyan
Broadway Star Joined: 9/22/14
#84Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:31pm
I don't really see what the big brouhaha is?!?!
Showface
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
#85Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:32pm
"Since years. 14% versus 12% to be exact."
Link to the study that provides these statistics?
Showface
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
#86Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:45pmhttp://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2015/02/22/academyawardsinfographic-lg.jpg?itok=NP4INb75
#87Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 10:41pm
The statistics in the IBTimes infographic would suggest that only 4% of acting Oscars have gone to black actors. Not to mention that there still has yet to be a black Best Director, though at least that White Men's Club has opened up in the last decade.
Not only is Dave19's response to this topic at large asinine, his evidence is disproven. Next.
Showface
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
#88Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 10:44pmI should mention that that info graphic does not include the 12 Years a Slave wins, but even then, it doesn't make a huge difference...
#89Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 11:01pm
I think annoyance at this "piece" is perfectly appropriate. The whole spirit of ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK is about representation for women of all types and ethnicities. To take something that celebrates diversity so prominently and use it as a means to highlight a bunch of white people is very sad. It shows just how narrow most people's mindsets are.
That being said, I wouldn't expect anything less from Broadway.com. This is the same site that proudly has a feature called "Broadway Smackdown" where they constantly pit women against each other, even after people like Anna Kendrick and Laura Benanti have publicly called them out over their blatant chauvinism.
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#90Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 11:03pm
Won't somebody PLEEEEASE turn off the italics?
#91Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/17/15 at 12:38am
"Won't somebody PLEEEEASE turn off the italics?"
I've been to both Rome and Florence. They are good people if a little handsy. No need to call them out specifically. There's enough lack of sensitivity in this thread already.
Dave19
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/11
#92Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/17/15 at 6:09am
"I should mention that that info graphic does not include the 12 Years a Slave wins, but even then, it doesn't make a huge difference..."
There is a lot more not included in that article. The statistics in other award shows like the Grammy's are even higher.
Dave19
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/11
#93Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/17/15 at 6:12am
So, the conclusion of this discussion is:
"Not being included in everything is not bad, making a fuss when not being included in everything is bad".
In this case, a personal list of personalities that a person likes.
Updated On: 6/17/15 at 06:12 AM
#94Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/17/15 at 7:37amUpdated On: 6/17/15 at 07:37 AM
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#95Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/17/15 at 8:35amI don't think Dave19 is a real person.
Showface
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
#96Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/17/15 at 1:10pm""I should mention that that info graphic does not include the 12 Years a Slave wins, but even then, it doesn't make a huge difference..."
There is a lot more not included in that article. The statistics in other award shows like the Grammy's are even higher. "
Well, I mentioned THe Academy Awards because you argued against the Black Reel Awards, but there are also plenty of articles about racial representation at the Grammy Awards too if you want to Google them on your free time...
Updated On: 6/17/15 at 01:10 PM
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#97Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/17/15 at 1:31pm
""""
Actually no, do you even read?
The percentage of black oscar winners is higher than the actual percentage of the black population
Since when? "
Since years. 14% versus 12% to be exact. Is that a problem? Should we organise white-reel awards to make up for the difference?
"
#98Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/17/15 at 1:40pm
"""""
Actually no, do you even read?
The percentage of black oscar winners is higher than the actual percentage of the black population
Since when? "
Since years. 14% versus 12% to be exact. Is that a problem? Should we organise white-reel awards to make up for the difference?
""
I have nothing to add, I just want to see how small the font gets when you keep quoting the same post.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#99Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/17/15 at 1:51pm
""""""
Actually no, do you even read?
The percentage of black oscar winners is higher than the actual percentage of the black population
Since when? "
Since years. 14% versus 12% to be exact. Is that a problem? Should we organise white-reel awards to make up for the difference?
""
I have nothing to add, I just want to see how small the font gets when you keep quoting the same post. "
Hear, Hear.
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