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Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#50Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/15/15 at 9:51pm
"Unfortunately some people think it works only in 1 direction."
It does only work in one direction. Perhaps you're thinking more along the lines of prejudice or bigotry? If you're thinking?
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Fantod
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/3/14
#51Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/15/15 at 10:01pm
emilyfaye, aren't you two white women? Maybe you should just get infuriated with the patriarchy again.
#52Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/15/15 at 10:20pm
I wouldn't say I was disgusted by the article- I mostly found it pretty uninteresting, which is par for the course for most of broadway.com's material. However, I do think the decision to put white faces on the black bodies of the actual characters was cringe-worthy and unnecessary.
But glad to see that this post has brought out BWW's regular clan who likes to pretend that race isn't still very relevant in this country.
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#53Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/15/15 at 10:23pm
You shoulda spelled it with a "k"!
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#54Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/15/15 at 10:29pm
LOL first you guys tell me that I'm racist and shouldn't single out black people, and now you're telling him that colorblindness is bad. Y'all needa get it together !
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FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#55Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/15/15 at 10:36pm
Turning black characters white isn't "color blindness."
But it's definitely a tempest in a teapot over something likely to be seen by literally tens of people.
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FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#56Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/15/15 at 10:45pm
It is HILARIOUS that Ivy Lynn has black hands.
Man, what a ding dong Paul Wontorek was to publish that.
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Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#58Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/15/15 at 10:56pm
Whaaa???? I DEMAND a remix!!! I vant to dance.
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Cupid Boy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/5/13
#59Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/15/15 at 11:04pm
HAHAHA. That's brilliant.
#60Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 12:10am
I haven't read the offending article. However, could part of the satire been that the writer suggested only straight white women for a show that has multiple ethnicities and sexual orientations?
We've often discussed the question of "color-blind" casting. I happen to believe that it is NOT racist to ensure that minorities play minority characters, while using more open criteria for casting characters that are usually played by white performers. My rationale is that, in a society where racism, sadly, still exists, it is not feasible to abolish race awareness in casting minority roles; that would merely freeze a status quo in which minorities are under-represented.
I am a bit puzzled, however, by the recent brouhaha over Emma Stone's being cast as a character who is part Asian -- if I understand the rationale correctly, the character is frustrated that no one can tell that she is Asian by looking at her. Under those circumstances, casting most Asian actors would not have worked, IMO.
Audrey, the Phantom Phanatic, who nonetheless would rather be Jean Valjean, who knew how to make lemonade out of lemons.
#61Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 12:30am
"Everybody but Dave19 click here "
Bitch, I'm Phyllis Rogers Stone.
#62Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 2:18am
This aggravated me so much when I saw this. Did the Broadway.com staff/interns simply forget that POC exist/are on the Broadway stage (though minimally)? Let's also not forget how extra white the Tonys were this year. Broadway producers need to invest in shows that include a diverse cast (and not ones that play stereotypical characters) more. Broadway needs to be better diversified. I cannot wait for Hamilton and Allegiance to open. I'm really tired, so I hope this makes sense. I would type this more eloquently if I were more awake.
Every so often there was a rare moment of perfect balance when I soared above him.
#63Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 2:51am
There are lots of things wrong with that whole "article." One of which is that it makes very little sense. Am I the only one who thought the whole "Broadway killings, inmate, crime" thing was kinda confusing and weird? What was the point of it?
Broadway.com is such a freaking mess in so many ways, and I hate pretty much everything about it.
And yeah, that was weird how they poorly photoshopped white women's faces over the faces of POC. I mean, the exclusion of POC in that post would be a bit more understandable if (A) they were talking about a TV show which did NOT have such a racially diverse cast, and (B), if there had been ANY kind of pattern whatsoever that dictated the inclusion of those specific 8 actresses, instead of some of the many talented women of color on Broadway (especially since many of the women they did pick are not exactly the toast of Broadway in my humble opinion...)
Updated On: 6/16/15 at 02:51 AM
#64Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 7:47am
I didn't find the article to be racist or funny.
Just give the world Love.
Dave19
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/11
#65Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 8:08am
"It does only work in one direction. Perhaps you're thinking more along the lines of prejudice or bigotry? If you're thinking?"
So separate things for black people is a good thing? That's what we need to teach our kids?
Speaking of bigotry.......
Dave19
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/11
#66Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 8:13am
"LOL first you guys tell me that I'm racist and shouldn't single out black people, and now you're telling him that colorblindness is bad. Y'all needa get it together !"
Exactly, they want you to single out black people, as long as it is about things they like. If it is about things they don't like, their standards change all of a sudden.
Double standards. Racism works both ways. But apparently they've never thought of that.
The question is, do you want a separation or not. They clearly do, in convenient times.
Updated On: 6/16/15 at 08:13 AM
Dave19
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/11
#67Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 8:19am
" And yeah, that was weird how they poorly photoshopped white women's faces over the faces"
That photo was not about race. It was about certain personalities the creator likes.
Are you really forcing him to judge on race first?
I truly hope that one day you will evolve too.
Updated On: 6/16/15 at 08:19 AM
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#68Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:05am
I'm horrified by it as well, given the diversity of a show like Orange is the New Black. Here's an example of people who would be great on the show, off the top of my head: Karen Olivo, Rebecca Jones, Pippa Soo.
"However, could part of the satire been that the writer suggested only straight white women for a show that has multiple ethnicities and sexual orientations?"
No honey. Broadway.com is NOT smart enough for that.
Anyway, there's a whole thread here about how black people can't afford tickets to Hamilton, so this isn't really the place for intelligent discussion.
Updated On: 6/16/15 at 09:05 AM
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#69Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:21am
I finally went to check out the article. It's stupid in its entirety and, I suppose, an attempt at humor. There is nothing racist or "whitewashed" about it. The (moronic) writer just made up a bunch of what ifs for his favorite b'way figures. There is nothing meaningful or hurtful in it at all.
Yes, persons of color are under represented on the b'way stage, but I don't see that this article has anything to do with that. Heck, it doesn't even deserve to be read. IF anything, write to the author and ask him why he didn't include any women of color. Who knows, maybe he did originally, and they edited it for fear THOSE comments would "seem" racist.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#70Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:33amHow is there nothing whitewashed about the fact that it's only straight, white, women that were chosen? And photoshopped on the bodies of POC?
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#71Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:42am
Because I don't think there is any malice or intent. Stupidity? Lack of awareness? Certainly.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#72Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:44amBroadway.com is the theatre equivalent to a BuzzFeed knockoff.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Dave19
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/11
#73Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:49am
"How is there nothing whitewashed about the fact that it's only straight, white, women that were chosen? "
Seriously, you only would have been satisfied if the ladies in that picture (which only contains famous types the author just happens to like), were actually "gay" in real life? Seriously?
I'm done. There is no hope left for humanity....
Updated On: 6/16/15 at 09:49 AM
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#74Anyone else disgusted by Broadway.com's whitewashing?
Posted: 6/16/15 at 9:50am
Can't you imagine the thought process? They most likely thought it would be a stereotypical negative to put black actors in there. And they would've gotten away with it too if Ivy didn't have black hands.
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