Positive reviews- and negative reviews, for that matter- do not necessarily equal nominations or any sort of Tonys shakeup.
Reviews are what a handful of people thought about a show. They're not a litmus test for what Tony nominators, let alone voters, think.
I think the Tony nominations will go for a new creative innovative musical like Bandstand to fit with the rest of the category. Dear Evan Hansen, Come From Away, Natasha Pierre, Bandstand. All totally original new musicals. Leave out the Groundhog and Anastasia and the Chocolate Factory.
Alexis Soloski for New York Times is in, and while she gives praise to the lead performances, really did not like the show:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/theater/bandstand-review-broadway.html
Broadway Star Joined: 1/24/16
When does Green begin at the Times? Next season perhaps?
ljay889 said: "Is Alexis Soloski officially the new Isherwood?"
I think she's in his slot until Jesse Green officially takes over on May 1.
Maybe I missed it, and I apologize if I did, but can someone explain to me why everyone keeps shutting down the idea of 5 nominations for Best Musical and Best Actress?
I remember the year of Baby It's You, they changed the number, because there weren't many actresses eligible.
Gets a B from Entertainment Weekly. Gist: it's a fun time, but it doesn't stay with you.
http://ew.com/theater/2017/04/26/bandstand-ew-stage-review/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter
Kad said: "Positive reviews- and negative reviews, for that matter- do not necessarily equal nominations or any sort of Tonys shakeup.
Reviews are what a handful of people thought about a show. They're not a litmus test for what Tony nominators, let alone voters, think.
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I feel like this is a frequently debated topic on here.
I completely agree with you, Kad. But I feel that some on here are deadset on reviews being an important factor when it comes into play in the nominations. I never understood that mentality.
I can't wait to read Jesse Green's review. I wish he started at the Times earlier to review this.
It's because there aren't very reliable public indicators of what may do well at the Tonys. People who are in the industry and community have a good idea, but that's a limited group. The rest of the world has less to go on.
fashionguru_23 said: "Maybe I missed it, and I apologize if I did, but can someone explain to me why everyone keeps shutting down the idea of 5 nominations for Best Musical and Best Actress?
I remember the year of Baby It's You, they changed the number, because there weren't many actresses eligible.
"
It's not really up for much debate or a matter of "shutting down" the idea. It's a factual matter. There are 4 Best Musical slots unless the 4th and 5th musical coke within 3 votes or less from the nominating committee. Or at least I believe that's the rule. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
fashionguru_23 said: "Maybe I missed it, and I apologize if I did, but can someone explain to me why everyone keeps shutting down the idea of 5 nominations for Best Musical and Best Actress?
I remember the year of Baby It's You, they changed the number, because there weren't many actresses eligible.
"
It's not really up for much debate or a matter of "shutting down" the idea. It's a factual matter. There are 4 Best Musical slots unless the 4th and 5th musical coke within 3 votes or less from the nominating committee. Or at least I believe that's the rule. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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BroadwayConcierge said: "Alexis Soloski for New York Times is in, and while she gives praise to the lead performances, really did not like the show:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/theater/bandstand-review-broadway.html
I'm with Ms. Soloski. The best and most astute review of the bunch. Cott's giving a star turn, while Osnes just sings pretty.
Broadway Star Joined: 9/15/16
http://www.vulture.com/2017/04/theater-bandstand-invokes-broadways-golden-age.html
Jesse Green is mixed.
BroadwayConcierge said: "ljay889 said: "Is Alexis Soloski officially the new Isherwood?"
I think she's in his slot until Jesse Green officially takes over on May 1.
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Oh, duh. Forgot about Green! Thanks.
Kad said: "It's because there aren't very reliable public indicators of what may do well at the Tonys. People who are in the industry and community have a good idea, but that's a limited group. The rest of the world has less to go on.
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Yeah, I think this is pretty accurate. The Tonys aren't really "hackable" like the Oscars are because of guild awards, etc. I also think that if you read enough reviews, you'll start to see patterns of how people think-- whether a performance or design aspect is universally praised (i.e. Andy Karl in GHD, Cott/Osnes in Bandstand) or universally disliked (i.e. the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory set design) while the show itself has more mixed reviews, they could (keyword COULD) be good indicators of how people think and how voters might lean.
That's just me, though. I could be a total outlier.
GreasedLightning said: "fashionguru_23 said: "Maybe I missed it, and I apologize if I did, but can someone explain to me why everyone keeps shutting down the idea of 5 nominations for Best Musical and Best Actress?
I remember the year of Baby It's You, they changed the number, because there weren't many actresses eligible.
"
It's not really up for much debate or a matter of "shutting down" the idea. It's a factual matter. There are 4 Best Musical slots unless the 4th and 5th musical coke within 3 votes or less from the nominating committee. Or at least I believe that's the rule. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thanks GreasedLightning. That discussion seems to happen in every review thread, and I couldn't figure out where/how/why I missed it.
I'm not seeing anything here to suggest that this is the dark horse of this season. I'm seeing a couple of positive reviews, a couple of decent reviews, and a couple of slightly negative reviews. Look, Bandstand is far from a bad show, but it is rather vanilla. I wasn't expecting to see pans, but I was expecting to see some lukewarm, positive reviews, and that's what we have here. Groundhog Day got stronger reviews and is a much more interesting show. War Paint, as flawed as it is, was more intriguing to me. Osnes and Cott are wonderful, but the show isn't very memorable. It's a bit mediocre. Not bad, but not great, just good, and that's what I'm seeing from these reviews.
What's wrong with wanting a show you loved to win awards?
icecreambenjamin, I only made that inference because I think people were expecting universal negative/pan reviews. The grosses, while still in the middle, have been consistently growing as this progressed through previews.
I'm with you on Groundhog Day being fantastic. But I think people more so expected that to be great after it's huge success on the West End.
There's nothing wrong with it. But he's trashing other shows he hasn't even seen...
Birdie Boy said: "Someone's pushing hard for Groundhog Day...
First of all, Groundhog Day is far from my favorite show of the year (I just don't see Bandstand pushing it out) and also, I have seen every show that I comment on. Don't try to invalidate my opinion simply because it is not yours, Birdie.
Also, there is nothing wrong with supporting a show that you love, but I have my right to say that the reviews for this show are not particularly remarkable and are not really much of a surprise. I'm just here to say that I'm not shocked to see that the critics didn't pan this show. It doesn't deserve pans, but it also didn't receive the reviews needed to topple such shows as Groundhog Day, Great Comet, DEH, CFA, or even War Paint from their thrones.
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