BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win BEST MUSICAL- Page 7
BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win BEST MUSICAL
#150re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 12:12am
1958: WEST SIDE STORY over The Music Man
1959: FLOWER DRUM SONG over Redhead
1960: GYPSY over The Sound of Music and Fiorello!
1969: HAIR over 1776
1972: FOLLIES over Two Gentlemen of Verona
1978: ON THE TWENTIETH CENTURY over Ain't Misbehavin'
1982: DREAMGIRLS over Nine
1984: SUNDAY IN THE PARK WITH GEORGE over La Cage aux Folles
1991: MISS SAIGON over The Will Rogers Follies
1998: RAGTIME over The Lion King
1999: PARADE over Fosse
2002: URINETOWN over Thoroughly Modern Millie
2005: THE LIGHT IN THE PIAZZA over Monty Python's Spamalot
As for Avenue Q v. Wicked v. Caroline, or Change, I believe that the musical that deserved to win actually won. I love Into the Woods and The Phantom of the Opera equally and since ITW took Best Book and Best Score, Best Musical deservedly went to PHANTOM.
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#151re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 12:48am
Any of the other three nominated musicals- Spelling Bee, Piazza and DRS should have one over Spamalot. All three, in my opinion, were much better than Spamalot and were all equally deserving.
However, I think that in the future (twenty or thirty years) the musical of the past season that will be the most likely to be remembered is Piazza.
There's a lot I am not certain of...
#152re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 12:53am
Am I the only one that like Aida?
But I'm not gonna lie it's pretty much the only one nominated that year I heard all the way through...but I DO know that Contact isnt even performed live (right?)...so that'd be my pick.
FYI - haven't been around musical theater to long (tryin to catch up lol, just got COMPANY and WOW) but thats just my opinion as of now...not to thread jack but any suggestions of EASY to find musicals, i.e. iTunes lol :)
#153re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 2:05amwackjack132, CONTACT is danced to pre-recorded music. I don't believe there was an orchestra.
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#154re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 9:33am
i think we all are in agreement in 05 ... definetly should not have been Spamalot. Hell i loved the show and monty and i still think Piazza (or at the very least DRS) should have won.
Wicked .... eh i'd have picked it over Ave q .... but its not like its unreasonable or anything
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#155re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 9:48amWhile I can agree that WEST SIDE STORY is a great musical, I don't agree that it is better than THE MUSIC MAN (maybe just as good). Same with GYPSY, FIORELLO! and THE SOUND OF MUSIC, and others. However, to me, RAGTIME is infinitely better than THE LION KING, and is my choice for Best Musical that didn't win.
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#156re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 9:51am
"While I can agree that WEST SIDE STORY is a great musical, I don't agree that it is better than THE MUSIC MAN (maybe just as good)."
Okay. Elaborate. (I'm prepared to vehemently argue this point. And I've played in both shows back-to-back years, so I'm VERY knowledgable about both. It's not like I don't know much about one while arguing the superiority of the other. Good luck).
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#157re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 9:56am
The most pointless year in the Tony Awards: 1967.
Why? That was one of the only years when all four Best Musical nominations got some praise, not raves, so you didn't know what the hell was gonna win.
And that's why no award should have been given in 1967.
I tell you what should've won in 2002: Definitely Urinetown, but I am glad Millie won as well.
2004: I'm glad "Avenue Q" won because I love that show, but you could've not sent that surprise turn coming at us and you just could've let "Wicked" take it.
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#158re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 10:00am
re: 1967...
How you can call "Cabaret" pointless is beyond me.
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#159re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 10:24am
Wicked
Let us milk the cow that is theatre-Monica Trausch
#160re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 10:44am
MISS SAIGON
RAGTIME
WICKED
PIAZZA
prediction for 2006 ----> JERSEY BOYS will not win.
Okay, okay!
Say it somehow...the beauty is, I have been changed for good!
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#161re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 11:01amFull Monty & Ragtime.
If Percy Blakeney were in Les Mis....
Percy: Sink me! If it isn't Javvurt!
Javert: Zsah-vair, it's pronounced Zsah-vair.
Pecry: But it's spelled J-A-V-E-R-T Javvurt.
Javert: Repeat after me Zsah...Zsah....
Percy: Oh! Zsa-Zsa! Like the Gabor sister! Well I personally have always prefered Eva.
Javert: (Looks for gun)
Percy: Sink me! If it isn't Javvurt!
Javert: Zsah-vair, it's pronounced Zsah-vair.
Pecry: But it's spelled J-A-V-E-R-T Javvurt.
Javert: Repeat after me Zsah...Zsah....
Percy: Oh! Zsa-Zsa! Like the Gabor sister! Well I personally have always prefered Eva.
Javert: (Looks for gun)
#162re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 11:20am
The Wild Party
Urinetown
Caroline or Change-Over Wicked, but not over Ave Q
Light in the Piazza
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#164re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 2:01pm
Okay. Elaborate. (I'm prepared to vehemently argue this point. And I've played in both shows back-to-back years, so I'm VERY knowledgable about both. It's not like I don't know much about one while arguing the superiority of the other. Good luck).
I'm not going to argue the point. It's just that it's apples and oranges, imo. It's your personal taste. No argument necessary. They are both great shows, so I don't see where one was robbed over the other. Certainly not like RAGTIME.
#166re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 3:54pm
I think I'm in the minority thinking that Ragtime won the awards it deserved. The book was the strongest of the season, but it was still choppy and unfocused. The score is absolutely gorgeous and the cast was brilliant. But that was about it. to me, listening to the CD was far more enjoyable than the actual production. I think the only reason people really wanted it to win Best Musical was simply because it wasn't Disney, not because it was the Best production of a musical that season.
Shows I believed deserved to win:
West Side Story
Hair
Purlie
Dreamgirls
Into the Woods
Falsettos
Tommy
Parade
The Wild Party
The Full Monty
Urinetown
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#167re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 3:58pm
Ragtime
Caroline, or Change
The Light in the Piazza
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#168re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 4:58pm
I wold not have minded if INOT THE WOODS had won over PHANTOM as I love them both.
WICKED should have won over Q.
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#169re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 5:02pmWicked and Light in the Piazza.
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#170re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 5:06pm
Caroline, or Change lost to Q
She Loves Me lost to HELLO DOLLY (Hello... WHAT!?)
"Picture "The View," with the wisecracking, sympathetic sweethearts of that ABC television show replaced by a panel of embittered, suffering or enraged Arab women" -the Times review of Black Eyed
#171re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 5:40pmJersey Boys.
Hamlet's father.
#172re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 7:09pm
Ragtime definatly should have won in 1998.
I think either Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, The Light In The Piazza, or Spelling Bee should have won Best Musical last year.
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#173re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 7:11pm"Caroline" and "RAGTIME" !!!!
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#174re: BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win Best Musical
Posted: 6/1/06 at 7:30pm
I think the only reason people really wanted it to win Best Musical was simply because it wasn't Disney, not because it was the Best production of a musical that season.
I wanted it to win, because I thought it was the best musical I had seen, in about 25 years before it, and since. I hated THE LION KING, so I certainly wasn't pulling for that. I don't hate Disney, though. Far from it.
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