Phillytheatreguy10 said: "I’d say with the current state of Broadway and audience levels waning the more the merrier is a good argument to be made to the league. If the shows have the money to do it, let them, get eyes on the shows and keep them open. I’m still baffled they haven’t used David Foster at all for press- his first Broadway score and he is active in the press for other things and this music was being performed before the show was even open in Chicago to generate buzz- Jessica Vosk did “Something to Shout About” at least a year prior to the Chicago run at her Carnegie Hall concert. Get him to play the piano for the performance or something- unless his ego is that bruised from the reviews, I feel like he could be doing more."
But the Tonys are first and foremost an awards show. Yes, they can lead to ticket sales spike. Yes, the performances allow people who otherwise would never be able to see a Broadway show a chance to see at least a segment of the nominated shows. But for every performance they feature, they have to move AT LEAST 1 AWARD to the pre-show. And then everyone will complain about those nominees not getting the proper spotlight. Plus a Lifetime Achievement presentation. Plus an In Memoriam presentation (which is what I bet Broadway Inspirational Voices is covering). Plus something for Cynthia to do in the opening. Plus showing the clips from the awards and segments that happened during the pre-telecast ("During the commercial break, the Tony for Outstanding Lighting went to...").
The Tonys are also, fwiw, the one awards show where they cannot make the start time any earlier than it already is (and they already moved it to 6:40 this year, instead of 7) because the shows still have matinees on Sundays. When the Oscars moved an hour earlier, boo hoo, the celebs have to show up an hour earlier. The nominees cannot show up any earlier. So the telecast really cannot start an earlier than 8, with the pre-show at 6:40.
They are stuck in a really tough position. They are producing an awards show. Maybe Boop isn't performing because they just don't have room. Maybe LMM negotiated a deal to get RWHC on. Maybe there is a surprise appearance by America Ferrera. Maybe they literally drew names out of a fishbowl. Maybe they just couldn't say no to Groff/JIT because he is already in the Hamilton performance. We will never know. The reality is, every year shows request to be on telecast and agree to pay the performance fees, and every year the producers have to make tough decisions. I do not understand why suddenly it's a controversy with Boop.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/14/11
If BOOP! wanted to perform, then it should have gotten nominated for Best Musical. It didn't, and so it doesn't get to. That really should be the end of the argument. Yes, a couple non-nominees are performing and yes, it's questionable how they decide which ones get to and which ones don't. But at the end of the day, you're only guaranteed a spot if you're nominated.
And no, a lead performer shouldn't get to perform a number just because they got nominated when their show didn't. They'll have their moment when the camera pans to them as their name is read as a nominee (and of course, on stage if they win). That's the only thing they're owed. Sorry if that's harsh, and to be clear, this is not a knock on this particular show or this particular performer. But the Tonys are about recognizing the shows they decide are the best of the year. They did not decide BOOP! was one of the best shows of the year. End of story.
Broadway61004 said: "If BOOP! wanted to perform, then it should have gotten nominated for Best Musical. It didn't, and so it doesn't get to. That really should be the end of the argument. Yes, a couple non-nominees are performing and yes, it's questionable how they decide which ones get to and which ones don't. But at the end of the day, you're only guaranteed a spot if you're nominated.
And no, a lead performer shouldn't get to perform a number just because they got nominated when their show didn't. They'll have their moment when the camera pans to them as their name is read as a nominee (and of course, on stage if they win). That's the only thing they're owed. Sorry if that's harsh, and to be clear, this is not a knock on this particular show or this particular performer. But the Tonys are about recognizing the shows they decide are the best of the year. They did not decide BOOP! was one of the best shows of the year. End of story."
Ok… here’s a dumb statement: "If BOOP! wanted to perform, then it should have gotten nominated for Best Musical.
Did patti write this?
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/14/11
DrMonicaDeMoneco said: "Ok… here’s a dumb statement:"If BOOP! wanted to perform, then it should have gotten nominated for Best Musical.
Did patti write this?"
I'm not aware of Patti taking over my mind, but you know, stranger things have happened.
With that said, since you clearly didn't understand my first statement, let me try to spell it out clearer: Boop did not get nominated for Best Musical. If it had been, it would be performing. Since it didn't, it's not. And since it didn't, they shouldn't be complaining. Is that clear enough?
But you're missing the point where Just in Time and Real Women are both performing, so why not Boop?
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
Broadway61004 said: "DrMonicaDeMoneco said: "Ok… here’s a dumb statement:"If BOOP! wanted to perform, then it should have gotten nominated for Best Musical.
Did patti write this?"
I'm not aware of Patti taking over my mind, but you know, stranger things have happened.
With that said, since you clearly didn't understand my first statement, let me try to spell it out clearer: Boop did not get nominated for Best Musical. If it had been, it would be performing. Since it didn't, it's not. And since it didn't, they shouldn't be complaining. Is that clear enough?"
Much as it pains me to agree with DMDM, I think everyone "understands" your statement saying "If BOOP! wanted to perform, then it should have gotten nominated for Best Musical". We just all think it's a really dumb statement! Unless BOOP voluntarily took itself out of the running (which of course it didn't), it did not have a say as to whether or not it received a nomination, and to suggest as much just makes you seem foolish.
Is THAT clear enough??
I’m not saying David Foster would make a huge difference, I’m saying this feels like a passion project and I would think he’d want to talk about it more and showcase the leading lady by simply showing up on the Today Show or something to play for her- other less known composers have done that sort of thing. There’s also a pre-show where instead of droning on about fashion or talking to actors who arguably no one outside the community knows at home, they could slot in a performance or two- at least that would have the opportunity to be re-watched or go viral as the kids say. The point, as someone else said, is they’ve made the decision to showcase 2 other shows not nominated in the Best Musical category so why not Boop- especially if they’re willing to pay.
RippedMan said: "But you're missing the point where Just in Time and Real Women are both performing, so why not Boop?"
Agreed.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/14/11
JSquared2 said: "Much as it pains me to agree with DMDM, I think everyone "understands" your statement saying "If BOOP! wanted to perform, then it should have gotten nominated for Best Musical".We just all think it's a really dumb statement! Unless BOOP voluntarily took itself out of the running (which of course it didn't), it did not havea say as to whether or not it received a nomination, and to suggest as much just makes you seem foolish.
Is THAT clear enough??"
Do you still really not get that what I'm saying is "Boop should be a better show, therefore get nominated?" Do I really have to spell that out? My bad, forgot no one understands how to interpret statements anymore. Yes, I am aware they don't get to choose to be nominated. Be a better show and you'll be nominated. That's literally the point.
Oh no we all got it, it's just a really dumb thing to say.
I’m just confused why the knee jerk reaction is EVERYONE CAN PERFORM, while also complaining about certain awards being given in the pre-show or during commercials.
we go through this every year
Despite some people's feelings on the show, I think BOOP being on the Tony's would do wonders for their sales. I saw it over the weekend and, despite me sleeping through a lot of the book scenes, I do think the big numbers are crowd pleasers and would look great on TV.
Maybe they can use that $300K and put it towards a splashy ad to play during the show.
Broadway Star Joined: 5/15/11
RippedMan said: "But you're missing the point where Just in Time and Real Women are both performing, so why not Boop?"
Erm, because it’s terrible.
Featured Actor Joined: 3/1/10
Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen! It's not going to happen!
Dolly80 said: "RippedMan said: "But you're missing the point where Just in Time and Real Women are both performing, so why not Boop?"
Erm, because it’s terrible."
Audience I saw it with seemed to love it, and so did I.
Broadway Star Joined: 5/15/11
Matt Rogers said: "Dolly80 said: "RippedMan said: "But you're missing the point where Just in Time and Real Women are both performing, so why not Boop?"
Erm, because it’s terrible."
Audience I saw it with seemed to love it, and so did I."
I’m very happy for all of you!
Dolly80 said: "Matt Rogers said: "Dolly80 said: "RippedMan said: "But you're missing the point where Just in Time and Real Women are both performing, so why not Boop?"
Erm, because it’s terrible."
Audience I saw it with seemed to love it, and so did I."
I’m very happy for all of you!"
I’m sure you are.
They are closing in at 6,000 signatures over at change dot org to allow a Boop Tonys performance. Was just 4,000 early this morning.
Now can they get those 6000 people to buy premium seats? Any seats?
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
Matt Rogers said: "Dolly80 said: "Matt Rogers said: "Dolly80 said: "RippedMan said: "But you're missing the point where Just in Time and Real Women are both performing, so why not Boop?"
Erm, because it’s terrible."
Audience I saw it with seemed to love it, and so did I."
I’m very happy for all of you!"
I’m sure you are.
They are closing in at 6,000 signatures over at change dot org to allow a Boop Tonys performance. Was just 4,000 early this morning."
And we ALL know how effective a Change.org petition is!
Stand-by Joined: 1/26/24
Dolly80 said: "Matt Rogers said: "Dolly80 said: "RippedMan said: "But you're missing the point where Just in Time and Real Women are both performing, so why not Boop?"
Erm, because it’s terrible."
Audience I saw it with seemed to love it, and so did I."
I’m very happy for all of you!"
Ha! Okay.
JSquared2 said: "Matt Rogers said: "Dolly80 said: "Matt Rogers said: "Dolly80 said: "RippedMan said: "But you're missing the point where Just in Time and Real Women are both performing, so why not Boop?"
Erm, because it’s terrible."
Audience I saw it with seemed to love it, and so did I."
I’m very happy for all of you!"
I’m sure you are.
They are closing in at 6,000 signatures over at change dot org to allow a Boop Tonys performance. Was just 4,000 early this morning."
And we ALL know how effective a Change.org petition is! "
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Stand-by Joined: 11/19/06
Matt Rogers said: "JSquared2 said: "Matt Rogers said: "Dolly80 said: "Matt Rogers said: "Dolly80 said: "RippedMan said: "But you're missing the point where Just in Time and Real Women are both performing, so why not Boop?"
Erm, because it’s terrible."
Audience I saw it with seemed to love it, and so did I."
I’m very happy for all of you!"
I’m sure you are.
They are closing in at 6,000 signatures over at change dot org to allow a Boop Tonys performance. Was just 4,000 early this morning."
And we ALL know how effective a Change.org petition is! "
Change.org petitions have successfully led to a variety of changes, including legal reforms, policy adjustments, and increased awareness of important issues.Some notable examples includepetitions for justice for George Floyd, diabetes coverage in Argentina, and the ending of the ban on gay Boy Scouts.
Here are a few specific examples of successful petitions on Change.org:
ALSO:
https://www.businessnewsdaily.com/3637-business-changes-year.html
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George Floyd and Juneteenth are not Boop.
Understudy Joined: 9/9/24
Let the MC Enrivo include Jasmine in the opening number -- that way Boop gets honored with its star performer showing her stuff. No extra time required. They could have done this with Real Women Have Curves, Just in Time, and Smash. Just a quick snippet from each non-nominated musical in the opening sequence. Don't need the show sets, just the lead performers in costume doing a verse of a song in the opening medley.
Broadway Star Joined: 3/19/05
I would take issue with the Tony Awards not being representative... and yeah, the award recipients in certain categories may not be very representative (director categories for women or people of color) but overall the theater IS representative and for the most part the Tony Awards broadcast has been as well.
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