British transfers?- Page 2

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 11/26/23 at 11:04pm

How do you know that neither killed at the box office? They don't post grosses in London

[BoringBoredBoard40]

Posted: 11/26/23 at 11:05pm

Broadway Flash said: "How do you know that neither killed at the box office? They don't post grosses in London"

I thik they meant the prior US revivals of Spring Awakening and Follies didn't do well financially 

[seeseveryshow2]

Posted: 11/26/23 at 11:11pm

I’ve heard that THE MOTIVE AND THE CUE may transfer. 

OPERATION MINCEMEAT (sophomoric and silly) and CRAZY FOR YOU (dated?) unlikely. 

If SUNSET BLVD transfers, I hope it does with Nicole. She seems quite essential to its great reviews and success.

it would be a gift to have SONDHEIM’S OLD FRIENDS on Broadway.

I was told (while attending a performance at its Bridge Theatre) that GUYS AND DOLLS will not transfer. IMHO, there’s nothing special about it aside from the gimmicky immersive staging, and we’ve seen how that worked out for HERE LIES LOVE. It’s just the same good old reliable G&D. The innovative staging is diverting and fun, for sure, but it’s still a dated show.

As for the imminent transfer of CABARET, I didn’t find the London staging deserving of a $20 million plus reconstruction of the August Wilson Theatre to replicate the revival’s venue. The London Kit Kat Club was cramped, the stage was too small. Did Weimar Republic nightclubs have seating on opposite sides of the stage?  

Updated On: 11/26/23 at 11:11 PM

[inception]

Posted: 11/27/23 at 6:58am

As long as shows like Six and & Juliet have success transferring there will be other shows attempting it.  But those shows are not about  specifically British experiences - they use English history or historical theatre to present universal themes - and they smartly used a good American casts for their American productions.

One weakness I see in Operation Mincemeat - even in the UK production - is making the cast the star instead of the show the star.  Idiosyncratic shows need to be able to stand when the cast changes.  Perhaps they need to have a new cast for a NY production?  

[BoringBoredBoard40]

Posted: 11/27/23 at 2:28pm

I also want to point out that Mincemeat has already received rave reviews from Helen Shaw (featured on their website) and Peter Marks...and they are advertising on here as well which I can't recall other west end productions doing recently. 

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 11/27/23 at 2:47pm

Mincemeat is definitely gonna come to the US at some point. Maybe do an engagement somewhere in North America before going to Broadway. To see if American audiences and critics alike would enjoy it. After seeing it and talking with the creators, they said they really want the show to go to America. So, hopefully, they will get the chance to bring it to the states. 

[Kad]

Posted: 11/27/23 at 2:50pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "How are you all so rich that you can flit from continent to continent so often?"

You don't have to be very wealthy at all to make one or two trips to the UK a year.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/27/23 at 3:09pm

Really? Actual question. I thought prices of flights and accommodation had rocketed sky high since Covid.

Anyway, it was really just a light-hearted remark that came from a place of seething jealousy. Some people manage to see everything.

[binau]

Posted: 11/27/23 at 3:24pm

Well, speaking for myself, it's about personal sacrifice, obsession and choosing life priorities that are probably a bit different from the mainstream. I think my life would be a lot easier (especially in the long-term future) if I didn't have to see these shows, but I just can't help it because I love it so much. I need Bernadette to retire or I'm never going to be able to afford to retire. 


"Loving you is not a choice,
It's who I am.

Loving you is not a choice
And not much reason to rejoice,
But it gives me purpose
Gives me voice to say to the world:
This is why I live
You are why I live."

[blaxx]

Posted: 11/27/23 at 5:47pm

Production costs in London must be substantially lower or subsidized.

Their number of cast members in plays is insane, sometimes to just cross the stage.

I'm always shocked that NYC producers can afford these transfers.

[JasonC3]

Posted: 11/27/23 at 6:25pm

BoringBoredBoard40 said: "Broadway Flash said: "How do you know that neither killed at the box office? They don't post grosses in London"

I thik they meant the prior US revivals of Spring Awakening and Follies didn't do well financially"

Yes.  I was referring to the US revivals.  Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Updated On: 11/27/23 at 06:25 PM

[binau]

Posted: 11/28/23 at 2:42am

The London costs are substantially lower. Rent is cheaper, wages are much lower - many actors barely scraping by near minimum wage. It’s also why many (feels like most) shows seem to be running with so many empty seats each night but still manage to survive. There was a recent media campaign where actors saying it was ‘unfair’ they don’t get paid broadway wages lol. There has to be a middle ground somewhere. NYC costs are obscene. In London people are treated like dirt. 

[yyys]

Posted: 11/28/23 at 5:27pm

I went in September, it was $650 roundtrip, nonstop.  July is different....it was $1200 when I looked and did not go down.

 

Jay Lerner-Z said: "Really? Actual question. I thought prices of flights and accommodation had rocketed sky high since Covid.

Anyway, it was really just a light-hearted remark that came from a place of seething jealousy. Some people manage to see everything."

 

[scripps]

Posted: 11/28/23 at 6:17pm

Is Patriots for sure transferring? This is a show I wanted to see but could not fit in an early preview of when I was in London last spring (used JetBlue points and slept on a friend's couch if anyone asks ...). 

If I leave Spotify on long enough to start auto playing I cannot skip Operation Mincemeat songs fast enough. I would be very curious too see how this would be received stateside. 

[yyys]

Posted: 11/28/23 at 6:39pm

I'm all for Operation Mincement to transfer but two cast members in particular need to be in the transfer:

David Cumming (Charles Cholmondeley)

Jak Malone (Hester Leggett)

I can't imagine anyone else doing their characters...

It's doing well and will probably extend past June 2024.

 

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 11/28/23 at 7:02pm

Rumor is that Patriots is going into the Golden

[UWS10023]

Posted: 11/29/23 at 12:55am

KevinKlawitter said: "OuttaTowner said: "I’d say the of those that you list, were likeliest to (eventually) get Sunset, the Motive & the Cue, and - pending an appropriate space - Guys & Dolls.

Now that the actor’s strike is settled, it’s unlikely that Mescal would be available for Streetcar."

iirc the rumor (on these boards at least) was that Taron Edgerton was going to be the Stanley in theStreetcar transfer, not Paul Mescal."

I know Mescal has become predictably big but I am sure he would love to put Broadway on his bucket list. I wish he would consider a 10 week run.

 

[VernonGersch]

Posted: 11/29/23 at 8:09am

Send over Sunset Blvd please...I would have loved to seen Cabaret again this time with Jake Shears...and the Almedia production of Streetcar was one of the best things I have ever seen

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 11/29/23 at 8:34am

I absolutely want Frecknall’s Streetcar to cross the pond! That woman is becoming a household name and I am so happy she’s finally making her Broadway Debut with Cabaret! 

[imeldasturn]

Posted: 11/29/23 at 12:00pm

Dylan Smith4 said: "I absolutely want Frecknall’s Streetcar to cross the pond! That woman is becoming a household name and I am so happy she’s finally making her Broadway Debut with Cabaret!"

Interestingly the New York Times liked her production of The House of Bernarda Alba, which opened last night, better than any London newspaper 

[KevinKlawitter]

Posted: 12/1/23 at 9:11am

Have their been any conversations about Backstairs Billy transferring? There's a market for British royalty stories in America and Penelope Wilton & Luke Evans have decent amount of star power.

[JasonC3]

Posted: 12/1/23 at 9:16am

KevinKlawitter said: "Have their been any conversations aboutBackstairs Billytransferring? There's a market for British royalty stories in America and Penelope Wilton & Luke Evans have decent amount of star power."

Fairly mixed response to it in the UK.  I thought it was fine, but nothing special.

[imeldasturn]

Posted: 12/1/23 at 10:02am

It's not selling very well even in London, so unless they recast it with Judi Dench and Colin Firth it doesn't stand a chance 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 12/1/23 at 10:16am

UWS10023 said: "I know Mescal has become predictably big but I am sure he would love to put Broadway on his bucket list. I wish he would consider a 10 week run."

This is hair-splitting-adjacent, but it's pretty tough to make a Broadway budget work with anything less than 14 weeks (unless it's at a nonprofit), ideally with the option to extend to 20. And then you also have to factor in 4-6 weeks of rehearsals including tech. A Broadway limited run comes close to a half-year commitment.

Updated On: 12/1/23 at 10:16 AM

[MelissaF]

Posted: 12/3/23 at 12:16pm

Any thoughts on The Time Travellers Wife?  I’m really curious about anyone’s opinion!!