"if you have no interval, then you are selling less than a full show, not to mention the lost interval sales."
Less than a full show??? Because it doesn't need an intermission? Because it "might" be a little shorter? Ridiculous.
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It Shoulda doesn't have an intermission.......every year, there is a massacre on Broadway with shows closing after the Tonys. I think this year will be different where a slew of shows will pack up after the nominations are announced. The Euro and pound is very weak now and I think many Europeans will not be running to the theater this summer.
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Phantom also crossed 1 Billion this week, the second show to do so after The Lion King.
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If Shoulda only went up in attendance because it was press week, and everything was comped, then why did it's gross jump by $100,000? Maybe I'm missing something.
@hppyglucky- I don't think anyone suggested that Shoulda's paid sales did not go up. Its attendance went up considerably (because of the press comps, at least significantly), its avg price went down and it remains under water. I think the uptick in sales may relate to the specifics of that week, but I doubt it is a general trend. The producers unquestionably are on it, but they are still bleeding and it really seems unlikely there is an audience out there to get them over the hump.
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My comment was about the 25% increase in attendance, I didn't say anything about the price or gross.
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Clearly, Renee Flemings is NOT a Broadway attraction. In response to a prior comment, if she was, they wouldn't have to paper and discount so heavily...and still gross under $200K. This always smacked of Summer Stock to me, not Broadway in 2015
I am surprised that The Visit is doing Sooooo badly. Shows that Chita is not (and never has really been) a box office attraction. Which is a shame...I saw it in Virginia a few years ago and enjoyed it a lot, although I thought of it as having limited appeal. I still thought that is would do better than this, however.
I am thrilled at Finding Neverland's grosses, since I am among the group who thinks it is a rare magical event, even if not perfect.
Finally, I don't know if anyone has noticed that -- really for e first time ever -- Matilda and Kinky Boots seem to have reversed places. I know that Matilda benefits from families, etc., but Kinky always did better until a couple of weeks ago. Matilda seems to be getting a major second wind, whereas Kinky seems to be settling into a downward slope. Hope it is not too steep, because I loved it and figured it was good for 5 - 6 years. Not so sure anymore, especially if a few spring show -- namely, Neverland, American in Paris and Something Rotten-- become real hits, which I am thinking may end up being the case....not to mention The King and I.
re Matilda vs Kinky Boots, while the former is ahead in the 2015 horse race, the latter is doing exceptionally fine, and if that is a slide, it's one any producer would love to be on.
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I was thinking how it seems to be trending. I thought it would sell out for a few years. It just seems to me that there is an earlier than expected settling down. also, I am really interested that after 2 years, positioning vs. Matilda seems to be shifting. That's all.
I believe Matilda cost almost twice as much as Kinky Boots, so Kinky Boots has made more profit by now I would imagine.
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Re KB vs. Matilda: Let's see if Billy Porter's return will change KB grosses. I don't think the show needs to worry...yet
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Even though Kinky Boots isn't selling out every single performance, I don't think people should get worried or think it's threatened to close. It is normal for a show to level off after a few years (unless your name is Wicked, The Lion King, or The Book of Mormon) Look at Phantom of the Opera. That hasn't been SRO for years but it is still doing respectable numbers (like Kinky Boots) and will be open for many more (again most likely Kinky Boots will be as well).
"2 MORE WEEKS UNTIL TONY NOMINATIONS!!"
Really Philly ?
Thanks anyway.
One reason Kinky Boots isn't doing as well as Matilda right now could possibly be down to all of the more adult musicals and plays currently opening and running. KB is predominantly for an adult audience. Neverland, Visit, OTT, AAIP, Rotten, etc, along with Fish in the Dark, Audience, Skylight, Only a Play, Wolf Hall, etc are all aimed at the adult wallet.
The family show market is really down to Lion King, Aladdin, and Matilda. Last year there was Annie and Cinderella as well up until January - if I have my closings right..
With Wicked and maybe Gigi making a play at the tween and teen female audiences.
After the Tony's, things will close and the ticket picture will likely get better for the longer running shows that may be dipping now.
Just a thought.
Matilda is the far superior show. So glad to see it in the top 5 again. It was only a matter of time before Tony buzz died for Kinky Boots. And I doubt Billy Porter returning will impact anything?
Matilda historically gets a bump every holiday the kids are out. Last year it did the same thing, went down in May up and came back up mid June through the summer.
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The family show market is really down to Lion King, Aladdin, and Matilda. Last year there was Annie and Cinderella as well up until January - if I have my closings right..With Wicked and maybe Gigi making a play at the tween and teen female audiences.
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You forgot about FINDING NEVERLAND and yes many say it is not really a family show but per a concierge friend it is the most asked about show for families wanting to get tickets with their children.
I didn't forget Neverland. I put it amongst the more adult shows because everything I have heard says that the material of the musical is less appealing to families than the Disney or Matilda. While I haven't seen it, I based my opinion on what I was told by theatre people I know who saw it either in Boston or here in NYC. Their opinions on the show were mixed to say the least, but none felt the material was a great choice for families. Many did say that there were some clumsy attempts to make it more appealing to the the family audience. To be honest, when I saw the film, I didn't think the material would be great for families.
Interesting that the concierge reported the way they did. I haven't seen the marketing for the show. I wonder if Harvey W is pushing for a family audience?
Updated On: 4/15/15 at 07:34 PM
if he is smart (and he is) Harvey is pushing for all audiences.
With all these shows struggling its amazing that I cant find a decent affordable seat to most of them. There's a problem here.
^ Your right - the way they control the inventory they probably actually loose business. I'd rather not go than sit in a bad seat but they rather hold out for full price or premium prices than release the seats to people who actually want to see the show. In the end they wind up papering or sending them over to the booth.
^ Please tell me English is not your primary language.
I have a ticket to see the Heidi Chronicles in July...Is there any chance it will still be open?
^ Heidi? July? NO!
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