Broadway Legend Joined: 11/9/04
Thanks so much, Kad.
I am guessing that would mean Mamma Mia also would probably perform as they're on a touring contract, no?
iluvtheatertrash said: "Thanks so much, Kad.
I am guessing that would mean Mamma Mia also would probably perform as they're on a touring contract, no?"
I don't know what agreement they're on, but if it's indeed not a Production contract, then they would not be subject to any labor action.
Understudy Joined: 2/26/23
Kad said: "iluvtheatertrash said: "Thanks so much, Kad.
I am guessing that would mean Mamma Mia also would probably perform as they're on a touring contract, no?"
I don't know what agreement they're on, but if it's indeed not a Production contract, then they would not be subject to any labor action."
From AEA: “Tours and LORT shows (like Mamma Mia, Beetlejuice, Punch, Marjorie Prime, or Ragtime) would not go on strike because they are not under the Production Contract. This is also true for non-League productions (like Little Bear Ridge Road). And because their agreements will not be expired, they will still have a no strike clause in effect.”
I've asked this question in a couple of places but I'm still confused. Are Mamma Mia and Beetlejuice on the tour agreement or were they given a production contract? If they're on a tour contract... how does that work in this situation? Strike or no.
The stagehands' strike in 2007 saw the majority of shows go dark(Nov. 10-28). 8 shows still operated like Young Frankenstein, Mary Poppins & Xanadu. Similarly, off-Broadway were not affected.
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Observation said: "BJR said: "KKeller6 said: "Some businesses fail, some succeed. If you cant succeed paying decent wages across the board, you fail. And you should fail. It's really that simple."
I'd waager this is notthe take of someone who has had to keep a business open before."
If there is a strike, QoV should use that as an out and never open that production."
Omg I almost spit out my drink!!! LOL!!!!
MimiChika said: "https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/broadway-actors-prepare-strike-union-says-2025-09-30/"
I imagine they have to say/project these things, to force those at the table to take it seriously.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
Part of me feels like between the actors and musicians that we may be dealing with a strike from one side or another. Though, since I have skin in the game, while I don’t wanna have to deal with a strike from either union, I am not optimistic that a strike from either of the two unions won’t occur.
Featured Actor Joined: 5/21/10
With negotiations happening this week, the earliest they would strike would be next Monday 10/20. Before the pandemic, most unions had some type of strike fund in their reserves so that if other unions chose to strike, they would be able to pay their members at least some sort of partial salary, but Covid pretty much wiped that out because a lot of people received furlough payments from their unions. So if the strike does happen, even just for a few days, it's going to hurt a lot of people.
Islander_fan said: "Part of me feels like between the actors and musicians that we may be dealing with a strike from one side or another. Though, since I have skin in the game, while I don’t wanna have to deal with a strike from either union, I am not optimistic that a strike from either of the two unions won’t occur."
Considering the current economy, I'd think all sides would want to trike a deal to avoid a work stoppage.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
ACL2006 said: "Islander_fan said: "Part of me feels like between the actors and musicians that we may be dealing with a strike from one side or another. Though, since I have skin in the game, while I don’t wanna have to deal with a strike from either union, I am not optimistic that a strike from either of the two unions won’t occur."
Considering the current economy, I'd think all sides would want to trike a deal to avoid a work stoppage."
Oh I don’t disagree. I’m just a little nervous about all this is all.
Swing Joined: 11/9/12
Surely the Entertainment Community Fund, especially after record-breaking fundraising by Broadway and touring casts this past year, has something set up for the actors and musicians if this strike happens?
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
domdomdomdom said: "Surely the Entertainment Community Fund, especially after record-breaking fundraising by Broadway and touring casts this past year, has something set up for the actors and musicians if this strike happens?"
Maybe they do or not (not sure either way.) But, understand that if a strike is called by either union, it impacts more than just the actors or musicians. There are other unions/people impacted as well.
Swing Joined: 11/9/12
Of course. Didn't mean to say it would only affect actors and musicians. I am saying the Ent. Community Fund needs to prep for this after all the time and energy spent by these Broadway and touring companies raising millions for BCEFA and the Actors Fund
ACL2006 said: "Considering the current economy, I'd think all sides would want to trike a deal to avoid a work stoppage."
I think this is true. Terrible moment for a stoppage.
A strike is the nuclear option here. Nobody on either side wants it, but it is the major- and arguably the only real- leverage the unions have if the League is digging in.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
domdomdomdom said: "Surely the Entertainment Community Fund, especially after record-breaking fundraising by Broadway and touring casts this past year, has something set up for the actors and musicians if this strike happens?"
Are you suggesting that the ECF drain much of their resources to hand out to actors and musicians who choose to go on strike? That's certainly not what their mission statement is -- and as a donor I would certainly let them know my displeasure.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
two ladies tickets said: "With negotiations happening this week, the earliest they would strike would be next Monday 10/20. Before the pandemic, most unions had some type of strike fund in their reserves so that if other unions chose to strike, they would be able to pay their members at least some sort of partial salary, but Covid pretty much wiped that out because a lot of people received furlough payments from their unions. So if the strike does happen, even just for a few days, it's going to hurt a lot of people."
Not only that, but a lot of Broadway actors are still recovering from the loss of income stream due to the SAG AFTRA strike, which pretty much wiped out any savings that they may have had.
Noted in the Playbill article is that five shows would not be affected by this strike: Beetlejuice, Mamma Mia, Ragtime, Punch and Little Bear...
Swing Joined: 11/9/12
JSquared2 said: "domdomdomdom said: "Surely the Entertainment Community Fund, especially after record-breaking fundraising by Broadway and touring casts this past year, has something set up for the actors and musicians if this strike happens?"
Are you suggesting that the ECF drain much of their resources to handout to actors and musicians who choose to go on strike? That's certainly notwhat their mission statement is -- and as a donor I would certainly let them know my displeasure."
I'm absolutely suggesting this. Broadway and tour companies have personally raised millions and millions for BCEFA and The ECF and this is exactly one of those moments where the ECF comes in.
If you find the scores of people affected by a strike to be undeserving of financial help, then I highly doubt you donate to the ECF.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
domdomdomdom said: "JSquared2 said: "domdomdomdom said: "Surely the Entertainment Community Fund, especially after record-breaking fundraising by Broadway and touring casts this past year, has something set up for the actors and musicians if this strike happens?"
Are you suggesting that the ECF drain much of their resources to handout to actors and musicians who choose to go on strike? That's certainly notwhat their mission statement is -- and as a donor I would certainly let them know my displeasure."
I'm absolutely suggesting this. Broadway and tour companies have personally raised millions and millions for BCEFA and The ECF and this is exactly one of those moments where the ECF comes in.
If you find the scores of people affected by a strike to be undeserving of financial help, then I highly doubt you donate to the ECF."
Well then you would be very wrong then (on both counts). Might they consider stipends for groups of workers who are NOT choosing to strike (stagehands, front of house staff, etc.? Possibly. Should they be used to hand out to workers who willingly choose to strike? No, not from their current pool of resources, but in the event of a prolonged work stoppage they might do as SAG AFTRA did -- and set up a separate strike fund for people to contribute to. Those who can afford it (Hugh, Denzel, Bette, etc) might choose to drop in $1M or so -- which would be great!
ACL2006 said: "Noted in the Playbill article is that five shows would not be affected by this strike: Beetlejuice, Mamma Mia, Ragtime, Punch and Little Bear..."
That's applicable to shows affected by an AEA strike. AFM 802, the musician's union, is also looking at a strike, which may change affected productions.
Featured Actor Joined: 12/3/15
Kad said: "ACL2006 said: "Noted in the Playbill article is that five shows would not be affected by this strike: Beetlejuice, Mamma Mia, Ragtime, Punch and Little Bear..."
That's applicable to shows affected by an AEA strike. AFM 802, the musician's union, is also looking at a strike, which may change affected productions."
I have a tickets to see Jane in "Oh, Mary!" in a couple of weeks. Trying to keep track of which productions will be affected by whichever strike and come up with a backup just in case. Right now it seems like "Little Bear" would be in the clear if a strike does occur?
Also... is it gauche to go see a show that is open during a strike, would it be better to avoid any shows to show solidarity?
Featured Actor Joined: 5/16/05
Kad said: "ACL2006 said: "Noted in the Playbill article is that five shows would not be affected by this strike: Beetlejuice, Mamma Mia, Ragtime, Punch and Little Bear..."
That's applicable to shows affected by an AEA strike. AFM 802, the musician's union, is also looking at a strike, which may change affected productions."
The Playbill article indicated that "Ragtime" would not be affected by the AFM strike (separate contract for an NFP) but the two Equity touring contract shows would be. I assume that all shows on tour would also be affected.
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