#2
Posted: 6/17/12 at 7:48pm
No.
#3
Posted: 6/17/12 at 7:50pm
The producers are responsible for more than just the money.
Who should get it? The director? Separate category. The designers? Separate categories. The actors? Same. The writers/composers? Ditto.
Without the producers none of those people would have jobs.
They are the ones taking the risk. They can get some if the glory..after all, they are accepting on behalf of the entire company.
Who should get it? The director? Separate category. The designers? Separate categories. The actors? Same. The writers/composers? Ditto.
Without the producers none of those people would have jobs.
They are the ones taking the risk. They can get some if the glory..after all, they are accepting on behalf of the entire company.
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Updated On: 6/17/12 at 07:50 PM
#4
Posted: 6/17/12 at 7:55pm
I'm insulted by this. The producers own the show. It is their property.
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#5
Posted: 6/17/12 at 8:19pm
This thread is a perfect example of not only someone who has no idea about Broadway, it's inner workings and the people involved in making theater, but the sad state of this forum.
#6
Posted: 6/17/12 at 8:22pm
I think there has been a few exception like when Billy Elliot won best musical, Elton John went up rather than the producers of the show.
I thought the year Memphis won when literally all its producer on stage, it was a bit tacky, there should be a limit to how many can go stage.
I thought the year Memphis won when literally all its producer on stage, it was a bit tacky, there should be a limit to how many can go stage.
#7
Posted: 6/17/12 at 8:26pm
Isn't there a limit now? I assumed that's way when Best Play and Best Musical won this year there was a a huge group of people standing and cheering off to the side of the theater.
#8
Posted: 6/17/12 at 8:27pm
Completely agree with dramamama.
When a producer financially backs a show, it is because they are investing in a dream and sharing in it. There is no other recognition at the Tonys.
Jonwo, I think they have a limit now. That's why this awards show had the clump of people standing off to the side of the audience.
When a producer financially backs a show, it is because they are investing in a dream and sharing in it. There is no other recognition at the Tonys.
Jonwo, I think they have a limit now. That's why this awards show had the clump of people standing off to the side of the audience.
#9
Posted: 6/17/12 at 8:29pm
Yeah, this year there was a limit, with that section off to the side being for the people who would still get to be on camera, just not making the speech or whatever.
#10
Posted: 6/17/12 at 8:31pm
I guess the move to the Beacon and also the Memphis incident brought the limit in place, it's usually the lead producer who gets to speak e.g. Scott Rudin.
#11
Posted: 6/17/12 at 10:01pm
considering that it is the producers who are giving the Tony awards, on what possible basis could you "resent" who they give them to, or anything else about the ceremony. It's like complaining that the father of the bride gave her away at the wedding he just paid for.
#12
Posted: 6/17/12 at 10:13pm
Hasn't Smash taught you anything? Creatives can't be relied on to keep a show together. If Eileen had relied on creatives, drug-addicted Ivy would be falling all over the stage like she did in her last Broadway show.
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#13
Posted: 6/17/12 at 10:29pm
"This thread is a perfect example of not only someone who has no idea about Broadway, it's inner workings and the people involved in making theater, but the sad state of this forum."
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#14
Posted: 6/17/12 at 10:34pm
Whaaaat? "resent"? Who's supposed to accept? The theater owner? The skinny kid selling the overpriced keychains in the lobby? The Naked Cowboy?
They need a Best Play and Best Production of a Play to differentiate the text from the production, but the producer gets the Tony. And should.
They need a Best Play and Best Production of a Play to differentiate the text from the production, but the producer gets the Tony. And should.
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Updated On: 6/17/12 at 10:34 PM
#15
Posted: 6/17/12 at 10:50pm
actually, the award for best play is presented to both the author(s) and the producer(s). (Not so for best musical since the authors have separate categories.)
#16
Posted: 6/17/12 at 11:22pm
That's my point the best "play" and "best production of a play" are two different things, and should be identified as such. Look at War Horse.
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#17
Posted: 6/17/12 at 11:31pm
One of favorite TONY memories is when head producer Margot Lion accepted the Tony for Hairspray. Her was not only inspiring but it gave us a wonderful glimpse of what it meant to work on Broadway. So Classy!
#18
Posted: 6/17/12 at 11:52pm
"They" don't need to; you just want them to. All of us would probably like to give our own awards, but the folks who give the Tonys get to choose what to give and, in this case, there is a pretty good reason why they don't do as you suggest: if you give an award for best production, then there is no reasoned basis for distinguishing between new plays and revivals. All awards are compromises so yes sometimes a show gets an award because one element is so strong that you overlook another element. That's life.
#19
Posted: 6/18/12 at 12:28am
Heres what i always wondered how many of the producers get a Tony Statue, and say they only give like 3 of them statues at the award show, do the other producers get one as well or do they have to pay for it like other awards?
#20
Posted: 6/18/12 at 2:08am
They have to pay for them, FindMe.
#21
Posted: 6/18/12 at 8:21am
Really? I didn't know producers other than those few awarded at the ceremony had to pay for them. That's kinda sad.
Obviously the producers should accept, as everyone has said already. (Though for Once I wish Glen and Marketa accepted - just because they're my favorite band, not because they had a lot to do with the musical. :P )I do wish the Tonys had separate Best Play and Best Production of a Play categories so the authors could be separately awarded, making it more like the 'best screenplay' movie category.
Obviously the producers should accept, as everyone has said already. (Though for Once I wish Glen and Marketa accepted - just because they're my favorite band, not because they had a lot to do with the musical. :P )I do wish the Tonys had separate Best Play and Best Production of a Play categories so the authors could be separately awarded, making it more like the 'best screenplay' movie category.
#22
Posted: 6/18/12 at 8:34am
As more and more shows have more and more producers, why should the Tony Awards bear the brunt of the cost? THEY aren't making any money! Where do they draw the line at who gets one and who doesn't?
Does anyone know how much one costs???
Does anyone know how much one costs???
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#23
Posted: 6/18/12 at 8:59am
Also, the trophies they give out on the show are not the actual trophies that people will take home with them. Those are blank awards used as props for the broadcast; the real ones get engraved and sent to the winners later. The pictures they pose with are also props.
I worked backstage at the MAC awards once long ago, and my job was to stand in the wings and take the award away from the person who had just won as they walked offstage and get it back to the award presenter to bring back out to give to the next person. One of the strangest assignments I've ever had: "Congratulations! Now give me that back."
I worked backstage at the MAC awards once long ago, and my job was to stand in the wings and take the award away from the person who had just won as they walked offstage and get it back to the award presenter to bring back out to give to the next person. One of the strangest assignments I've ever had: "Congratulations! Now give me that back."
Updated On: 6/18/12 at 08:59 AM
#24
Posted: 6/18/12 at 9:20am
That is what I always assumed...but why, then, did we see pix of the winners getting in their cars at night, or at their parties WITH a trophy?
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#25
Posted: 6/18/12 at 10:47am
A tony costs $2,500. I'm kind of surprised about the winners not leaving with their Tonys cuz I was at the Tonys after party last year and I definitely saw winners clutching their statues!!
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