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Darren Aronofsky Is Adapting Samuel D. Hunter's "THE WHALE" For Film

Also, the play is essentially exploitative misery porn akin to a TLC special - much of it is spent watching the main character struggle to do "normal" things. Fat suits are demeaning. I'm not sure why "we couldn't find a disabled actor, so here's someone pretending to be disabled" is still so widespread.
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Darren Aronofsky Is Adapting Samuel D. Hunter's "THE WHALE" For Film

Charley Kringas Inc said: "Well, I don't work in casting for Hollywood, do you?"

I don't work in casting, either. I don't need to to know that there are no big name actors capable of securing funding for a major film that are 600 pounds.

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Darren Aronofsky Is Adapting Samuel D. Hunter's "THE WHALE" For Film

MysteriousLady said: "Charley Kringas Inc said: "Well, I don't work in casting for Hollywood, do you?"

I don't work in casting, either. I don't need to to know that there are no big name actors capable of securing funding for a major film that are 600 pounds.
"

That's narrow minded. Cast the big names around the performer with the disability then.


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#12

Darren Aronofsky Is Adapting Samuel D. Hunter's "THE WHALE" For Film

Finding someone 600lbs is unlikely. Finding someone well over 300 who has some understanding of the disabilities created by being obese, who can then deliver a more authentic performance? Realistic. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.

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Darren Aronofsky Is Adapting Samuel D. Hunter's

I agree completely with iluvtheatertrash and Blaxx. This is an A24 film, meaning they are aiming for a more indie crowd anyway, but they also know how to market prestige films without big stars. And as Blaxx pointed out, they can still cast stars in other roles. Plus, do we really think that Brendan Fraser, of all people, is the big bankable star that this role needs? And as far as acting is concerned: do we really think there's no obese people in the US who could act the role better than him? He's not exactly Daniel Day-Lewis. Plus, recent movies like Nomadland and the 40-Year-Old Version have shown that a strong director can coax fantastic performances out of people who have never acted before.

And like all issues of representation in casting: this isn't just about what's offensive or not, it's also about the fact that fat people face an incredible amount of discrimination in this industry. It's very rare to see a fat person in a dramatic leading role, and so when opportunities like this come along, casting someone like Brendan Fraser is like a slap in the face to fat actors. And going back to iluvtheatertrash's point, it's not even like the actor would necessarily have to actually be 600 pounds themselves.

Updated On: 1/12/21 at 11:36 AM

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Darren Aronofsky Is Adapting Samuel D. Hunter's

I’m confused at what people are even arguing? It’s acting. Let the actors act. If you want a real life depiction go to Walmart. I want to see damn good actors act. I really hate this idea of “you haven’t lived it so you can’t portray it.” It’s harmful for the arts.
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Darren Aronofsky Is Adapting Samuel D. Hunter's

What part of this argument are you confused about? The age-old "acting is acting" excuse is a straw-man's argument that has been addressed time and time again, year after year, thread after thread. Rebuttals have already been written in this thread, by me and others.

It's not "if you haven't lived it, you can't portray it." That's a blanket statement that no one is actually advocating for. Another straw-man. But there are SOME marginalized groups that simply cannot be played respectfully or authentically by people of other groups.

Now, I'll admit - I don't necessarily know if I'd say that obese people are one of these groups (I'm open to hear arguments either way). However, that's not the only thing that's at play here. There's also the issue of jobs for actors within those marginalized groups, which I discussed in detail in my last post (please see above). Every time I hear the "acting is acting" complaint, it's from people who seem to conveniently ignore this pivotal side of the argument.

Also, I'd love to hear an example of how this mentality has actually harmed the arts in real life. And even if it has harmed the arts, is that a more pressing issue than advocating for respect and job availability for marginalized people?

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Darren Aronofsky Is Adapting Samuel D. Hunter's

ViniFromBrazil said: "omg you guys find ways to fight in every damn post, don't you"

Now imagine how marginalized performers feel like.


Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
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Darren Aronofsky Is Adapting Samuel D. Hunter's

Not that it’s quite the same but Fraser has dealt with issues of immobility being an invalid before due to some debilitating injuries he sustained in his early years as an action movie star. Those, plus his sexual victimization at the hands of a studio executive, are two major reasons he disappeared from the scene for so long.

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