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Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
BroadwayBen
Broadway Star Joined: 6/5/03
#50Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/6/24 at 4:33pm
Right now, this makes Broadway 1 for 6 for new musicals. From this season, only "Back to The Future" is still running. These five have opened and closed/announced closing: Once Upon a One More Time, Here Lies Love, How to Dance..., Harmony, and now Wine and Roses.
And there's 8 new musicals still to open: Outsiders, Notebook, Suffs, Gatsby, Elephants, Lempika, Heart of Rock and Roll, and Hell's Kitchen.
What a season! Has there ever been anything like this before?
#51Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/6/24 at 4:45pm
So standing at the sky’s edge should come to Broadway then. It’s big enough.
Updated On: 3/6/24 at 04:45 PM
#52Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/6/24 at 4:48pm
The greatest, most sucessful musicals in Broadway history have often been 'unconventional' in subject matter. That is different from "non commercial."
“I knew who I was this morning, but I've changed a few times since then.”
rattleNwoolypenguin
Broadway Star Joined: 10/11/11
#53Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/6/24 at 4:52pm
I just think they should've thought about time of year for this one.
How do you get people in February to see something this depressing?
#54Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/6/24 at 4:57pm
Would u consider Kimberly to be commercial? I wouldn’t and they’ve been a success.
#55Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/6/24 at 5:01pm
Broadway Flash said: "Would u consider Kimberly to be commercial? I wouldn’t and they’ve been a success."
They will likely be closing at a financial loss, so no, they have not been a commercial success.
You need separate things like winning awards from commercial success. They're entirely different metrics.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#56Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/6/24 at 5:22pm
My view is that there are big things on broadway, small things on broadway, commercial, non commercial. Something’s are a hit and some things aren’t. I don’t think this show flopping means no show like it can ever succeed on broadway.
BroadwayBen
Broadway Star Joined: 6/5/03
#57Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/6/24 at 5:40pm
It may also be post-covid the audience is not as big as it was and it's going to take time to rebuild. There may just be too many shows at once.
#58Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/7/24 at 11:27am
I chose this show for my birthday evening of the 4 shows we are seeing: Merrily, DOWAR, Notebook, Outsiders preview. I have never seen Brian or Kelli in a musical on Broadway, so I'm super excited to see this and it has been my most anticipated, even with some of the criticisms I've read. I absolutely loved Brian in The Ferryman. Given the mixed notes on the music for this, is it better to go in with the expectation that this is more of a play with some musical numbers vs going in and expecting to be wowed by a new musical?
#59Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/7/24 at 12:15pm
Go in expecting a musical. Plain and simple.
The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
broadfan327
Broadway Star Joined: 3/20/08
#60Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/7/24 at 12:16pm
It is a musical, but don't go in expecting Jerry Herman like power ballads.
bwaylvsong1
Understudy Joined: 11/15/13
#61Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/7/24 at 6:46pm
There are several reasons I think this show isn’t selling well:
-I haven’t seen ANY advertising for this show outside of theatre-oriented spaces.
-Kelli and Brian are not well-known to the general public.
-I haven’t heard much of the score, but I can’t imagine that Guettel wrote catchy music that a typical theatregoer would enjoy. When I saw Piazza, I was in tears from the beauty of the music, while those around me were saying that it “wasn’t their cup of tea”.
-The source material is not well-known. The title of the show doesn’t give any indication of what the show is about other than that it probably has something to do with love.
-There is so much theatre going on now, that even those who actively want to see it (including myself) prioritized other shows and now won’t be able to.
bear88
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/26/16
#62Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/7/24 at 8:30pm
With some trepidation, I recommended the musical to my daughter when she was in New York City on a quick weekend trip in late January. (I never saw it.) She liked the show, but primarily for O’Hara and James. Very impressed with them.
I have been surprised just how badly it seemed to do from the outset in its Broadway run. I guess everyone who wanted to see the musical caught it off-Broadway last year.
#63Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/8/24 at 2:26am
RippedMan said: "Did they ever promote it on the talk shows?"
Yes and it sadly didn't work.
Ke3
Broadway Star Joined: 6/25/20
#64Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/8/24 at 5:39am
bwaylvsong1 said: "There are several reasons I think this show isn’t sellingwell:
-I haven’t seen ANY advertising for this show outside of theatre-oriented spaces.
-Kelli and Brian are not well-known to the general public.
-I haven’t heard much of the score, but I can’t imagine that Guettel wrote catchy music that a typical theatregoer would enjoy. When I saw Piazza, I was in tears from the beauty of the music, while those around me were saying that it “wasn’t their cup of tea”.
-The source material is not well-known. The title of the show doesn’t give any indication of what the show is about other than that it probably has something to do with love.
-There is so much theatre going on now, that even those who actively want to see it (including myself) prioritized other shows and now won’t be able to."
If we believe the statistics that baby boomers still make up a large portion of theatre goers, then the source material is incredibly well known to the people who buy full price tickets. They just didn't come.
#65Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/8/24 at 7:55am
Broadway Flash said: "So standing at the sky’s edge should come to Broadway then. It’s big enough."
This is not a show Americans would preferably understand. It's VERY British. Just like Operation Mincemeat. Granted, I understood it as did some other Americans who were in the audience the night I went, but we did our research on the history before seeing it.
The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
bwaylvsong1
Understudy Joined: 11/15/13
#66Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/8/24 at 8:25am
Ke3 said: "bwaylvsong1 said: "There are several reasons I think this show isn’t sellingwell:
-I haven’t seen ANY advertising for this show outside of theatre-oriented spaces.
-Kelli and Brian are not well-known to the general public.
-I haven’t heard much of the score, but I can’t imagine that Guettel wrote catchy music that a typical theatregoer would enjoy. When I saw Piazza, I was in tears from the beauty of the music, while those around me were saying that it “wasn’t their cup of tea”.
-The source material is not well-known. The title of the show doesn’t give any indication of what the show is about other than that it probably has something to do with love.
-There is so much theatre going on now, that even those who actively want to see it (including myself) prioritized other shows and now won’t be able to."
If we believe the statistics that baby boomers still make up a large portion of theatre goers, then the source material is incredibly well known to the people who buy full price tickets. They just didn't come."
That’s interesting- my mother and most of her friends and family are baby boomers… several of them who are very interested in theatre asked me if I knew anything about the show and what it was about. Perhaps the title sounded familiar but wasn’t something they specifically recalled.
ETA: I see the movie came out in 1962- makes sense that they wouldn’t remember an adult-oriented movie that came out when they were children but might have heard its name.
Falsettolands
Leading Actor Joined: 11/18/13
#67Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/13/24 at 10:17pm
Finally saw this tonight- sadly it was so empty that they moved us all in the mezzanine down about about five rows. From the looks of it maybe at 60% full?
Kelli and Brian and turning in powerful performances, but they've both had stronger more "complete" projects, if that makes any sense. There's something missing here from making it ever a truly brilliant musical, but there are more than enough glimmers to let you know that there's just as much ache and yearn for human connection in the midst of the idiosyncratic score and generic book.
It's frustrating that something like this can't even have a healthy limited engagement, but I can't say I would recommend this as a "must see" to anyone. The show is a couple punches away from being a real knock out, but I'm not certain the writers would agree - it seems like they froze it pretty staunchly after the Off-Broadway run
Plexsis
Stand-by Joined: 9/29/04
#68Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/14/24 at 12:29am
Still sad about this. Had plans to see it in April a few weeks before closing. Was putting off listening to the cast recording until I saw it, but I guess I don’t have to now.
#69Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/14/24 at 12:49am
Saw this again tonight. I was in the orchestra this time, which was mostly full. It’s definitely not perfect. A wonderful and peculiar roller coaster ride of a musical and it’s stunning I absolutely love it. Kelli and Brian sound better than ever. Gorgeous performances. I really hope this gets nominated for both leads, musical, and a win for Adam Guettel. He deserves it.
verywellthensigh
Broadway Star Joined: 6/14/22
#70Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/14/24 at 8:10am
They took a risk with this one.
Given how reactionary Broadway is, this should be applauded.
#71Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/14/24 at 8:31am
I disliked everything about this, including the two leads. But I would rather sit through this again, than suffer Back to the Future again, if any show should have closed early it’s that turd of a show
Well I didn't want to get into it, but he's a Satanist.
Every full moon he sacrifices 4 puppies to the Dark Lord and smears their blood on his paino.
This should help you understand the score for Wicked a little bit more.
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rattleNwoolypenguin
Broadway Star Joined: 10/11/11
#72Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/14/24 at 10:39am
I think they should've advertised it as more disturbing too.
Like just make the poster look chaotic and intriguing and troubling. Their faces blurred. Just give some insight into the dark nature. Advertise it as a dark show.
They would've sold more tickets had people thought "Oh wow! A dark Guettel musical? I'm in."
#73Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/14/24 at 10:57amI think anybody excited by the prospect of a new Guettel musical, regardless of subject matter, likely was already a safe bet for a ticket purchase.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
CathyM3
Swing Joined: 3/14/23
#74Days of Wine and Roses to Close Early
Posted: 3/16/24 at 8:43am
So sad. Lately, quality show and commercial success doesn’t correlate. It’s been trending this way for a while and bad news for the industry. I’ve started going to amazing off (and way-off!) Broadway shows as I’m tired of spending ridiculous money to feel nothing upon leaving the theater. Live performances can be transformative when done well but leave you feeling empty when they’re all spectacle and no substance. Don’t have high hopes for most of what’s coming out this season.
CCM
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