Disney's 'Frozen' — Page 3

I disagree and actually think "The Princess and the Frog" was a great Disney movie and a long overdue return to classic animation. I believe gender stereotypes, especially among children and teenagers, are more prevalent in today's society than ever, especially more so than during the time period of the Disney Renaissance and can impact boys decisions to see films like that - heck, musicals in general nowadays. It really sucks, and I'm not a fan of that being a reason for Disney to have to change movie titles, but the fact is that it is a reality they are having to deal with.

People in our generation grew up with Disney classics, so we are used to those Disney titles, etc. and, even though there were gender stereotypes, thy were not as prevalent or enforced in society as they are now for young children among their peers. Look at Easy Bake Ovens for example - they used to be borderline gender neutral. Now they are all frilly and pink with sparkles on them. One young boy's sister has even started a campaign to get Hasbro to make the toy gender neutral or make a male equivalent because her brother wants one, but doesn't have an alternative besides one with pink and sparkles. That's the reality that kids are growing up in. It's much more defined than it was during the ages of early Disney films.

Updated On: 12/13/12 at 06:57 PM

"What's with Disney naming their new movies with those horrible one word 'modern' titles"

'Enchanted' really worked well as title but it obviously was not directly based off of a fairy tale. It was a spoof of many of them.

I said it underperformed. Still, it was a modest hit at best. It bombed in the US at $104 million on a $105 million budget, but it made $267 million overall when you include the foreign gross. The conventional Hollywood rule-of-thumb is that a movie needs to gross about two-and-a-half to three times its budget to make a profit in order to cover marketing/distribution costs, the cut of the profits that theaters take, etc. So it made a small profit. Hardly the blockbuster they were expecting.

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I'm on the fence over this. I have complete faith that Disney can make a decent film, but looking at the concept art reminds me way too much of Tangled. The characters look almost exactly like the main characters in that movie. Knowing all the folks involved in Frozen, I really hope it doesn't end up being Disney trying to straight up duplicate their own success, but rather push themselves to create something even better than their previous films.

I think PatF was A) Too heavy-handed with its message and B) Spent too much time with them as frogs. Also, Randy Newman's score did not elevate the material, except for maybe "Almost There." I loved Tangled and thought it was excellent, although I agree that Disney movies now have to be more tongue-and-cheek with humor than as genuine and earnest as they used to. I blame Shrek for that.

I also noticed the trend of boys refusing to watch Disney "princess" movies when I used to babysit children in high school. Sad. Feminists were very upset when Tangled was renamed because the move was catering to a demographic that is in their view already far too catered to already. Plus it's sad that no one trusts females to carry a movie financially. Sadly, Brave didn't do well, which I'm sure didn't help convince Disney otherwise.

I don't like Idina Menzel's singing but actually the one time I've thought she sounded good was voicing a character (Circe) on the Hercules animated series. So I will withhold my judgment.

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"Also, Randy Newman's score did not elevate the material, except for maybe "Almost There." I loved Tangled and thought it was excellent, although I agree that Disney movies now have to be more tongue-and-cheek with humor than as genuine and earnest as they used to. I blame Shrek for that. "

Newman can't write a dramatic musical score, IMHO. He's fine when he's doing songs that more comment on the action or are played in the background (ie Toy Story), but...

As for themore adult tongue 'n cheek humour, to be fair Disney really started that with Aladdin (where it worked wonderfully), though I agree that Dreamworks have been particularly bad with that element.

"Plus it's sad that no one trusts females to carry a movie financially. Sadly, Brave didn't do well, which I'm sure didn't help convince Disney otherwise. "

To be fair, while Greta (I think that's her name) is the main protagonist of Snow Queen--traditionally anyway--her friend (Kurt? I have no idea) and him being taken by the Queen and emotionally frozen is focused on quite heavily--the recent TV anime based on the story (which was pretty good) did a good job of padding out the story and focusing on both equally. But I guess the title Snow Queen, even if she's kinda the villain more than anything else, isn't one they like.

But it is ironic because one of the biggest recent boons to Disney money wise has been their whole huge marketing around Princesses (including recently rebuilding Fantasyland in Florida to allow for even more places to meet and greet them...)

Just wanted to say that the other day I hung out with an old friend who has a daughter now and we went to the Disney Store. When the child wanted to buy a Rapunzel doll she called the doll "Tangled" instead of Rapunzel.

Really glad and shocked that no one posted this, so I can be the bearer of the great news!

I'm happy to report that Prince Hans, a love interest to Anna or Elsa (I think Anna) and the possible villian, will be played no other than...



It's defientely Hans b/c he doesn't have a announced voice actor yet. I FREAKED out when I heard about this. It did not take long for Santino to be a Disney prince! He's going to be perfect. They better make him sing. What a waste of talent if they don't!

Updated On: 6/3/13 at 06:55 PM

First photos from Frozen, which will feature as previously mentioned Santino Fontana as well as Josh Gad.


'Frozen' defrosts Kristen Bell's Disney dreams

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Updated On: 6/17/13 at 04:36 PM

Just watched the teaser trailer, its cute and I smiled but it makes it look like a kids animal based movie (ala Ice Age) with no humans shown. And the reindeer acting like a dog reminds me of the horse in Tangled. Not sure on the snowman, quite basic looking animation for Disney

I hope that scene is not in the movie because it wasn't funny seeing it once and I never want to sit through it again. I'll reserve judgement until a proper trailer is released but that looks terrible. It was basically the same teaser for all the Ice Age movies with Scrat searching for his acorn.

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