Hamilton Cancellation Line
#1525Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:01am
meepsnyc said: "Anyway, I'm told the new strategy is to do a shorter wait but buy premium tickets if available, which would bring each of my 2 tickets to ~$750 each. I don't mind paying the money, but I also would hate to pay this much only to have no premium tickets available that day.
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Wait, is their new system that you have to pre-pay for the cost premium tickets? Because I thought before you just had to pre-pay the # of hours you wanted the sitter to wait, but if at the end of the wait the sitter couldn't get tickets you weren't out the cost of the tickets themselves, just the cost of the line waiting.
If the pre-pay now includes the line waiting plus the premium ticket cost that's a little sketch, since there's no guarantee that this level of ticket will even be available for sale on that day.
I have no problems with line sitters in theory. There's something in what you're describing that I wouldn't sign up for.
meepsnyc
Chorus Member Joined: 5/12/16
#1526Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:05am
Anakela said: "Wait, is their new system that you have to pre-pay for the cost premium tickets? Because I thought before you just had to pre-pay the # of hours you wanted the sitter to wait, but if at the end of the wait the sitter couldn't get tickets you weren't out the cost of the tickets themselves, just the cost of the line waiting.
If the pre-pay now includes the line waiting plus the premium ticket cost that's a little sketch, since there's no guarantee that this level of ticket will even be available for sale on that day.
I have no problems with line sitters in theory. There's something in what you're describing that I wouldn't sign up for."
Yes, since I signed up for the line sitter a few weeks ago, the policy has been that you pay them upfront -- for both the wait time AND the cost of the tickets, as they were the ones purchasing the tickets for you. As I understand, if you aren't able to procure tickets, they refund the ticket cost but you are out the sitting fee. I'm told they would offer you a "substantial" discount on a future booking, but at that point I would probably be so discouraged that I would probably just StubHub tickets anyway, to prevent losing more money.
That's why I'm slightly leaning towards StubHub. It's a bit of a pain as I know more and more people are now trying to pick up last minute tickets and you have to be in Manhattan ready to go, but I don't see any other way I would get guaranteed tickets.
#1527Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:09am
As I understand, if you aren't able to procure tickets, they refund the ticket cost but you are out the sitting fee.
Ok, that's not so sketch then.
I mean, anecdotally I know that the day that MFB/17 waited that there were no premium tickets offered that day, so that's at least one day that premium tickets were not available.
#1528Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:16am
sarahb22 said: "I looked up SOLD's Twitter and saw this:
Same Ole Line Dudes @sold_inc
May 6
@NYPDMTS just came & cleared out the SAT #hamiltonmusicalcancellation line b/c @linestandingnyc "professionals" choose to ??WEED in line!!
I hadn't heard about this incident! It sounds to me like SOLD and the linestandingnyc guys don't like each other much...
Did they throw everyone out or just "weed" out the offenders? ??
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#1529Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:33am
sarahb22 said: "I looked up SOLD's Twitter and saw this:
Same Ole Line Dudes @sold_inc"
does this mean they are getting premiums? or still the 177?
#1530Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:33am
Since it says they "cleared" the line out, it sounds like they threw everybody out. But this is the first I'd heard of it. It's dated May 6, which is a Friday, so maybe there weren't that many people in line yet for the Saturday show.
#1532Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:39am
talinatter said: "no i mean their most recent tweet "What happens when ignorant ppl troll us? Instead of 2 tickets now we'll take 4 to get our 2! We're fans too stupid! #youngscrappyandhungry"
Oh - sorry, I was responding to the post above yours. No idea, sorry.
#1533Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:41am
MyFavoriteBrunette said: "That tweet isn't about ticket clients swapping, that's about what they will say when they get their first stage door wait client to get her autograph and picture at the Hamilton stage door.
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Ok my bad then. I rarely use Twitter! Thanks for the clarification --- I didn't know people hired line sitters for stage door!
#1534Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:44am
nightnic001 said: "Is the Sunday matinee still the easiest for the cancellation line?
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Probably because there are no shows on Sunday matinee until Memorial Day weekend.
normally it is easier to get cancellation tickets when Lin-Manuel is not performing (ie Saturday matinees or that week when Lin went on vacation.)
#1535Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:51am
talinatter said: "
no i mean their most recent tweet "What happens when ignorant ppl troll us? Instead of 2 tickets now we'll take 4 to get our 2! We're fans too stupid! #youngscrappyandhungry
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I just read the tweet and I believe it means the $177 tickets. To do that, a client needs to hire 2 line sitters and pay for 4 tickets --- totaling over $1400. It abides by the rules so that's ok in my book.
hmmm that last sentence was unnecessary though. They probably got the idea from what I wrote a few days ago on this board.
Again, never did it state in the new rules that line sitters are banned, so I have nothing against them; but if what happened sat eve was true (line sitter bought the tix and then gave those 2 tickets to his client with security not doing anything) then I'd have an issue with that.
If RRT wants to get rid of line sitters period, they should change the limit from 2 tickets to 1 ticket per person on cancellation line.
#1536Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:54am
Hellob said: No joke! And a year later, too. I'd rather blow someone to get a ticket. Lol that's only 10 minutes cuz I got things to do!
That is the best response I have read in a long time! lmPRao!!!
#1537Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 11:20am
Jennabee said: "Re: the matchmaking thing, this is very preliminary but I may be available for one or two days. (To sit!) We are not sure yet if we're going and if so what day it would be, and we would require first dibs; that is, if only two tickets are available, we'd get them.
That is the one spoiler in this plan as I see it. If a single ticket is offered first, of course the person on line would want to take it, and that is understandable, unless the only way they could afford a ticket is if someone else paid for it.
Sounds like a question for that ethics column in the NY Times!
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#1538Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 11:27am
Wick3 said: "talinatter said: "
no i mean their most recent tweet "What happens when ignorant ppl troll us? Instead of 2 tickets now we'll take 4 to get our 2! We're fans too stupid! #youngscrappyandhungry
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I just read the tweet and I believe it means the $177 tickets. To do that, a client needs to hire 2 line sitters and pay for 4 tickets --- totaling over $1400. It abides by the rules so that's ok in my book.
hmmm that last sentence was unnecessary though. They probably got the idea from what I wrote a few days ago on this board.
Again, never did it state in the new rules that line sitters are banned, so I have nothing against them; but if what happened sat eve was true (line sitter bought the tix and then gave those 2 tickets to his client with security not doing anything) then I'd have an issue with that.
If RRT wants to get rid of line sitters period, they should change the limit from 2 tickets to 1 ticket per person on cancellation line."
so the line sitters go in and watch the show? Wouldn't that end up costing far more than stubhub/getting two premiums with less way time? (That's what SOLD texted me when I asked them)
I sure hope this doesn't catch on...
Sunshine31
Stand-by Joined: 4/27/16
#1539Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 11:28am
talinatter said: "sarahb22 said: "Since it says they "cleared" the line out, it sounds like they threw everybody out. But this is the first I'd heard of it. It's dated May 6, which is a Friday, so maybe there weren't that many people in line yet for the Saturday show/"
no i mean their most recent tweet "What happens when ignorant ppl troll us? Instead of 2 tickets now we'll take 4 to get our 2! We're fans too stupid! #youngscrappyandhungry""
It's seems that SOLD is purchasing/watching the show as well:
Interaction via Twitter (20 hours ago):
Concerned fan: "@sold_inc did you enjoy the show?? you know, since the person buying the tickets is required to proceed immediately into the theater now"
SOLD: "yes it was great thanks for asking! We had front row! Did you?"
I detected a bit of sarcasm on both ends. If their client wants 2 tickets, how is this even working?
meepsnyc
Chorus Member Joined: 5/12/16
#1540Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 11:33am
talinatter said: "
so the line sitters go in and watch the show? Wouldn't that end up costing far more than stubhub/getting two premiums with less way time? (That's what SOLD texted me when I asked them)
I sure hope this doesn't catch on...
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If I didn't need 2 tickets -- I mean, I GUESS I could leave my boyfriend at home, but I would feel bad doing so! -- I totally wouldn't mind bringing my line dude in to watch the show with me, especially since I hear the guys are really laid back, genuinely nice people. Unfortunately, 4 tickets is a little much, but I could see people being okay with this!
Jennabee
Understudy Joined: 5/12/16
#1541Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 11:37am
MISH2 said: "That is the one spoiler in this plan as I see it. If a single ticket is offered first, of course the person on line would want to take it, and that is understandable, unless the only way they could afford a ticket is if someone else paid for it.
Sounds like a question for that ethics column in the NY Times!"
Right! Probably each individual situation would have to be negotiated ahead of time re: what to do if there are not in fact enough tickets to go around.
#1542Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 11:39am
Sunshine31 said: "talinatter said: "sarahb22 said: "Since it says they "cleared" the line out, it sounds like they threw everybody out. But this is the first I'd heard of it. It's dated May 6, which is a Friday, so maybe there weren't that many people in line yet for the Saturday show/"
no i mean their most recent tweet "What happens when ignorant ppl troll us? Instead of 2 tickets now we'll take 4 to get our 2! We're fans too stupid! #youngscrappyandhungry""
It's seems that SOLD is purchasing/watching the show as well:
Interaction via Twitter (20 hours ago):
Concerned fan: "@sold_inc did you enjoy the show?? you know, since the person buying the tickets is required to proceed immediately into the theater now"
SOLD: "yes it was great thanks for asking! We had front row! Did you?"
I detected a bit of sarcasm on both ends. If their client wants 2 tickets, how is this even working?
I guess the old adage, "In for a dime, in for a dollar" applies here. If the client is willing to pay an additional $177 per ticket, which I assume some are, that's how it works
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Joined: 12/31/69
#1543Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 12:00pm
Anyone know what the line is like today for a Monday show?
chalklit
Swing Joined: 5/16/16
#1544Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 12:26pm
i really hope this whole "taking 4 tickets for 2 people" thing doesnt catch on...and i don't really see how it would given that SOLD buying premium tickets is cheaper...i would just hate to have so so many line sitters seeing the show everyday as a result of these rules...kinda backfires
#1545Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 12:30pm
chalklit said: "i really hope this whole "taking 4 tickets for 2 people" thing doesnt catch on...and i don't really see how it would given that SOLD buying premium tickets is cheaper...i would just hate to have so so many line sitters seeing the show everyday as a result of these rules...kinda backfires
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Well, people complained that the rules weren't being "enforced," and two linesitters + two patrons getting four tickets and seeing the show falls within the posted rules, so...
meepsnyc
Chorus Member Joined: 5/12/16
#1546Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 12:32pm
Has anyone ever bought tickets off of one of the scalpers in front of the theater before the show? Can the box office verify they're real before purchasing?
Em6
Chorus Member Joined: 4/29/16
#1547Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 12:32pm
Anakela said: "meepsnyc said: "Anyway, I'm told the new strategy is to do a shorter wait but buy premium tickets if available, which would bring each of my 2 tickets to ~$750 each. I don't mind paying the money, but I also would hate to pay this much only to have no premium tickets available that day.
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Wait, is their new system that you have to pre-pay for the cost premium tickets? Because I thought before you just had to pre-pay the # of hours you wanted the sitter to wait, but if at the end of the wait the sitter couldn't get tickets you weren't out the cost of the tickets themselves, just the cost of the line waiting.
If the pre-pay now includes the line waiting plus the premium ticket cost that's a little sketch, since there's no guarantee that this level of ticket will even be available for sale on that day.
I have no problems with line sitters in theory. There's something in what you're describing that I wouldn't sign up for.
"We hired SOLD end of April. We paid upfront for the number of hours and for the 2 tickets. We ended up not getting the tickets (our guy was next in line) when the last tix was sold. We were immediately refunded the price of the tickets without any problem. We had no problem doing business with them.
My question now is how are they going to charge when sitting for premium tickets? How can we (or they) estimate for the number of hours of wait. Premium tickets come out as early as 10:00, and as late as just a couple of hour before the show.
What if there are no premium tickets? When will the sitter leave the line? Just wondering...
Sunshine31
Stand-by Joined: 4/27/16
#1549Hamilton Cancellation Line
Posted: 5/16/16 at 12:58pm
FYI: @linestandingnyc is back.
Twitter: "Yes. We are still booking reservations for #Hamilton cancellation line with provisos.
Call us XXXX. #hamiltonmusical" (I blocked out the number).
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