Hamilton Cancellation Line- Page 97

[gatorgirl2]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 11:22am

gatorgirl2 said: "Also the girl who had her phone stolen Wed night  came back at 6ish. She had gotten in Thu night. There is a black women with a buzz cut who walks around in fuzzy socks who comes by the line a lot and she thinks that is who stole the phone. Apparently she confronted her but the women said she had no proof. So she came back to try to get security footage maybe? 

 

Anyways thanks to everyone who posted their stories and info on this thread! It was beyond helpful! 

 

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I should probably finish this story oops lol. Anyways:

 

the short dude who works at the theater was talking to the line sitters when he arrived at 6 about this incident. They all agreed that she shouldn't have fallen asleep with her cell phone out in plain site but the theater guy pointed out there was two cameras so hopefully it was on tape.

The girl seemed pretty convinced it was the homeless women and had confronted her. I don't know if she was actually able to use the security footage but I would assume either way she is not getting her phone back. 

The women did come around more often than anyone else . She showed up at around 7 pm and again was there after the show got out. She high fived us a bunch of times. Could have been just because she was bored or excited for us or she could have been trying to pick pocket us. At the end of the day she was a stranger and I'd advise anyone to be wary when a stranger comes up to you but that's just common sense. 

I would suggest taking turns sleeping or at least tuck everything away. Losing my phone Friday would have been awful. 

[MISH2]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 11:25am

Martin4au said:    I also contacted SOLD prior to coming to see how that option worked. It was well out of my price range. After seeing the line sitters work I would've been very uncomfortable to be a client as well. To walk up an hour before the show stand outside the line and then when my line sitter was up just walk to him and go in would make me feel uncomfortable. But again that's just my personality I am not  judging the people who do that.

 

I understand your misgivings.  But it is the theater who sets the rules - 1 person can buy 2 tickets, as long as they use one themselves, possibly in the interest of curtailing the number of people on line at any given time.  At one time, 1 person could buy 2 tickets and give those 2 to whomever she wanted!  It's interesting that that rule was changed in order to discourage paid linesitters.  It certainly hasn't ended paid linesitting, just fine-tuned who can afford to use them.  And unintentionally, it has further stacked the deck in favor of people willing to pay for premium, because the rule that only the buyer can use the ticket is unenforceable before the theater doors are open.

 

It's a very interesting social experiment - survival of the fittest vs. money can buy anything!  

 

 

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Updated On: 5/29/16 at 11:25 AM

[gatorgirl2]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 11:25am

Lisa-upstate said: "Love reading thru all the Ham adventures!

i can't wait to head 'downstate' and try for my shot! I think that unless I find a line buddy that can wait overnight before I arrive on June10th I will have to buy online from TM between 6pm and Showtime...if so, how far to a place to print? Could I buy at 7 and make it back before 8?

So exciting and nerve-racking at the same time! Again I offer to buy a buddy's tix for June 10 or 11 if anyone is there to wait!

 

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Marriott print center closes at 7 pm. Staples is near by and I think closes at 8? Those are your two best best and people on here have rushed to the Staples to print tickets and been successful. 

Tickets online yesterday from what people were posting were pretty low for online scalpers . Good luck! 

[MISH2]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 11:30am

gatorgirl2 said: 

I have no problem with two people who get there at the same time asking for 4 tickets but for example if I had gotten there at midnight and gotten second in line because I was buddies with OwlandFInch and then when the time comes we decide to get 2 tickets each I would have been mad. I think the line sitters behind me would have even been upset too.

 

As well you all should be, because that would definitely be breaking the rules!
 

 

 

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[gatorgirl2]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 11:35am

I am following someone on twitter who is currently in line for Sun night show. I think she got there sometime before Saturday nights show. She said 8 tickets got released all together (including premium) Saturday night and that after the show started almost everyone left in line left and she was now 5 and 6th and hopefully first in line for Sunday night show. 

Not too bad of a wait then for her. 

She just tweeted there are about 28 people in line now. 

Updated On: 5/29/16 at 11:35 AM

[Martin4au]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 12:00pm

MISH2 said: "gatorgirl2 said: 

I have no problem with two people who get there at the same time asking for 4 tickets but for example if I had gotten there at midnight and gotten second in line because I was buddies with OwlandFInch and then when the time comes we decide to get 2 tickets each I would have been mad. I think the line sitters behind me would have even been upset too.

 

As well you all should be, because that would definitely be breaking the rules!"

 

@MISH2  you earlier disagreed with me in asking the person number one in line on Tuesday night  for Wednesday show not to do a plus one with this new girl by saying I should not be telling  a single they can't buy two tickets . If you remember one of the statements was she arrived later on Monday afternoon than some of the people she was in front of but joined her line buddy who had gotten there earlier. The person that she joined was the last person to get in on Tuesday night.  So what you're saying is in the case of Gatorgirl2 skipping people in line to be with her friend it would've been breaking the rules for her to buy two tickets. Sweet Girl arrived after college kids but  jumped ahead because her line partner was already there. Her line buddy got in, she did not. So should she have had to leave the line? Move back behind the people that she arrived after? Or now was just #1 in line to do as she pleased? Lots of things to think about!

[ArtMan]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 12:05pm

 In reading all of these stories, I am surprised and a bit amused  that people from out of town spend most of their entire visit waiting in line for tickets.  I guess to each their own.  It seems like a lot of money and time to get to NYC and  MAYBE see one show.  I just got back from a 4 day trip.  I saw 6 shows, went to a taping of The View, attended Good Morning America concert with Ariana Grande, went to the top of One World Trade Observatory, rode the Staten Island ferry, went to the MOMA, went to Neue Gallery, went to Ham4Ham and saw and heard Patti Lupone sing, stage doored the Tony nominee luncheon (got great photos from almost everyone and got snubbed from Andrew Lloyd Webber, staged doored the Drama League awards, went shopping, went to the bars after my evening shows and finished my trip at the tubs.  And that was a 4 day trip. Again to each their own.

[MISH2]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 12:15pm

Martin4au said: "MISH2 said: "gatorgirl2 said: 

I have no problem with two people who get there at the same time asking for 4 tickets but for example if I had gotten there at midnight and gotten second in line because I was buddies with OwlandFInch and then when the time comes we decide to get 2 tickets each I would have been mad. I think the line sitters behind me would have even been upset too.

 

As well you all should be, because that would definitely be breaking the rules!"

 

@MISH2  you earlier disagreed with me in asking the person number one in line on Tuesday night  for Wednesday show not to do a plus one with this new girl by saying I should not be telling  a single they can't buy two tickets . If you remember one of the statements was she arrived later on Monday afternoon than some of the people she was in front of but joined her line buddy who had gotten there earlier. The person that she joined was the last person to get in on Tuesday night.  So what you're saying is in the case of Gatorgirl2 skipping people in line to be with her friend it would've been breaking the rules for her to buy two tickets. Sweet Girl arrived after college kids but  jumped ahead because her line partner was already there. Her line buddy got in, she did not. So should she have had to leave the line? Move back behind the people that she arrived after? Or now was just #1 in line to do as she pleased? Lots of things to think about!

 

Actually, I think once the actual person who waited on the line takes just 1 ticket and goes in by herself, her "plus one" shouldn't be allowed to purchase a ticket ahead of anyone who got there before her.  If the person who waited on line was able to purchase 2 - then yes, the plus one goes in with her.

 

It's the reason I myself decided not to pair up with someone willing to wait on line - if just 1 ticket is offered and the person who waited on line decides to take it (and that is completely understandable, particularly in the case of those who had no personal relationship prior to making the arrangement), I assumed I would not be permitted to purchase a ticket for myself, because I wasn't the one who waited. The person who waited has the right to buy 1 or 2 - but once the decision to buy just 1 is made, any prospective guest is out of luck.

 

I am assuming that is the way it works.  When you described what happened with Counterfeit Girl, I understood it to mean that the person who was buying the ticket(s) was an original line waiter, and not someone's plus one.  If that's the case, I don't understand why she would be allowed to buy ANY tickets, let alone 2 tickets, before the people who were on line before her.

 

 

 

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[schubox]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 12:18pm

I just noticed they're doing 9 shows this week. Weird 

[mailhandler777]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 12:19pm

I usually see 4 shows in 2 days. I'm also surprised that someone would spend their whole trip into the city(I'm talking about people that don't live there or near) just to see 1 show in 3 days or however long it is. As ArtMan said to each their own.

Updated On: 5/29/16 at 12:19 PM

[gatorgirl2]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 12:20pm

ArtMan

The OBC is leaving soon and I REALLY wanted to see them. I actually have tickets to August I'm now selling because my goal was to see the OBC. As much as I love Hamilton if the OBC is not there I am gonna get my money back for the premium tickets in August lol. 

I think the OBC leaving is why you have people making special trips just to seem them before they leave. People are really attached to this cast. The show will probably be around for a long time but the OBC will not. While I like musicals no other show and cast has touched me like Hamilton and I didn't want to throw away my shot at seeing them. To each their own like you said. Totally worth the whole trip for me. 

 I've been to NYC enough that while there is still things left I would like to see and other shows I want to try to go see I knew I was coming back to NYC in June so I could just focus on getting tickets to Hamilton.

Honestly I spent all together for the whole trip less than it would have cost me to buy through ticketmaster and stubhub so economically it worked out for me. I could have stayed longer and done other things today and tomorrow but I work with kids and I can't be dead on my feet Tuesday. 

At least sleeping outside the theater saves money on hotel rooms? lol 

Updated On: 5/29/16 at 12:20 PM

[Martin4au]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 12:20pm

@artman sounds like you had awesome trip! I went to NYC in March saw 5 shows and did a ton of stuff and spent a lot of money. This trip was about Hamilton! $200 total paid for round trip flight for 2, didn't get hotel room for full night on street, paid average of $150 hotel for other 3 nights so cost was minimal. Would have been hard to give up those days if I had not been there just 6 weeks before!

[gatorgirl2]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 12:29pm

Martin4au said: "@artman sounds like you had awesome trip! I went to NYC in March saw 5 shows and did a ton of stuff and spent a lot of money. This trip was about Hamilton! $200 total paid for round trip flight for 2, didn't get hotel room for full night on street, paid average of $150 hotel for other 3 nights so cost was minimal. Would have been hard to give up those days if I had not been there just 6 weeks before!

 

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Same here just about!

Also I entered SO MANY lotteries for other shows and didn't win ANY! I got 3rd row seats for Fun Home for 80 less than what I paid for Hamilton and honestly Hamilton was worth it. When I go back in June I'm gonna try getting cheaper tickets for other shows cause to me any other show but Hamilton isn't worth upwards of 90 bucks. 

 

[ArtMan]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 12:44pm

My trip sounds like it cost alot but it really wasn't.  My air was free with JetBlue.  I stayed at a hotel for only three nights and stayed up the fourth night due to an early flight.  My hotel cost at Chelsea Hostel for three nights was $250.  MOMA and Neue  Gallery were free.  6 Broadway shows cost was $350 (two were rush), One World Trade Observatory was $32 and the remaining cost of food and booze was minimal.  Gatorgirl2 (where do you live in Florida?), your comment about sleeping on the street and saving hotel money made me laugh.

Updated On: 5/29/16 at 12:44 PM

[Martin4au]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 12:52pm

@MISH2 the Sweet Girl  wanting to help counterfeit girl is what I would consider an original line sitter.  She spent many hours in line, she did arrive Monday evening, But her original arrival time was after the college kids but she moved to ahead of them on her arrival, her line buddy had arrived a few hours before the college kids. So does that officially make her a plus one? An original line sitter? Again these are just questions for debate. But also why I think everyone should be kind to each other in line as well as being upfront with planned ticket purchases. For the most part we are all friends, but when it comes to actual spot in line as time approaches of course everyone is looking out for themselves. Just like I wanted Counterfeit Girl to go to #6 right behind me, I was not thinking about Boyfriend who had been there since 9am on Tuesday morning for Wednesday night show, why should she bump him? But My thoughts at the time were she was moving ahead of 4 of us who had been there since Monday. 

Updated On: 5/29/16 at 12:52 PM

[MISH2]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 1:09pm

Martin4au said: "@MISH2 the Sweet Girl  wanting to help counterfeit girl is what I would consider an original line sitter.  She spent many hours in line, she did arrive Monday evening, But her original arrival time was after the college kids but she moved to ahead of them on her arrival, her line buddy had arrived a few hours before the college kids. So does that officially make her a plus one? An original line sitter? Again these are just questions for debate. But also why I think everyone should be kind to each other in line as well as being upfront with planned ticket purchases. For the most part we are all friends, but when it comes to actual spot in line as time approaches of course everyone is looking out for themselves. Just like I wanted Counterfeit Girl to go to #6 right behind me, I was not thinking about Boyfriend who had been there since 9am on Tuesday morning for Wednesday night show, why should she bump him? But My thoughts at the time were she was moving ahead of 4 of us who had been there since Monday. 

 

IMO, she is a plus one.  If she arrived that early, she should have positioned herself behind anyone who arrived before her.  (I understand that she chose to hang out with her line buddy, but that doesn't mean she is ahead on her own of anyone already there.)  If her original line buddy had held out for 2 tickets, she could have gone in with her.  Once her line buddy buys just one ticket and goes in by herself, I think she should have been behind the college kids, who were there before her.  In that position, she herself now qualifies for 1 or 2 tickets if and when it's her turn, and could have purchased an additional ticket for counterfeit girl if she so chose.

 

I'm sure things get animated, to say the least, when so many people have been waiting such a long time. But if they consistently adhere to their own rules - anyone can buy 1 or 2 tickets, in the order they placed themselves in line.  If you buy 1, you forfeit the right to the second ticket.  If you buy 2, you can give it to anyone else you choose, whether that person just arrived or if that person happens to be further back on the line, as long as the person is prepared to go in at the same time you do.

 

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[jjohnson5]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 1:43pm

Has anyone done the in person lottery on Weds recently? 

[Daina]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 2:00pm

We saw the show yesterday and stayed across the street at the Paramount. On the way to the parking garage this morning, we walked past the very long cancellation line. Good luck to all you brave souls. If any of you decide to stay on for the Tuesday show, you should all chip in for a room and go take showers. I felt awful last night and that was only after a few hours of walking around the city. It's way too hot for me! Back home and enjoying the air conditioning. Resale prices were so worth it for me :) 

[Hellob]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 2:08pm

Why didn't the girl with the stolen phone use find my iPhone? How heavy of a sleeper was she that she didn't notice the phone being taken? Was anyone else around, no one noticed? 

Eta they usually do 9 shows on holiday weekends 

Updated On: 5/29/16 at 02:08 PM

[gatorgirl2]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 2:16pm

Hellob said: "Why didn't the girl with the stolen phone use find my iPhone? How heavy of a sleeper was she that she didn't notice the phone being taken? Was anyone else around, no one noticed? 

Eta they usually do 9 shows on holiday weekends 

 

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These are all questions I asked but I never spoke to her personally lol. I also wondered how she tweeted her phone was stolen...like in that situation I wouldn't remember any of my passwords or even think to do that. 

I think she feel asleep and like rolled over or something so she wouldn't have noticed it going missing? Thursday night I couldn't sleep and there was always someone else awake too so idk how that happened. You don't technically know the people around you so if the person who stole it didn't look obviously homeless or something maybe they just assumed they knew whoever stole it? I saw her get into a van with a lot of people Friday night after she came back to the theater and she had family with her it seemed so yeah, I had all those questions too. 

[ArtMan]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 2:34pm

jjohnson5 said: "Has anyone done the in person lottery on Weds recently? 

 

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I did it on May 18.  I'm from out of town and wanted to say I did it once.  There were a'round 600 or more people there.  My luck with such things proved to be on point.  I didn't win.

[Hellob]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 2:55pm

gatorgirl2 said: 
 
These are all questions I asked but I never spoke to her personally lol. I also wondered how she tweeted her phone was stolen...like in that situation I wouldn't remember any of my passwords or even think to do that. 

I think she feel asleep and like rolled over or something so she wouldn't have noticed it going missing? Thursday night I couldn't sleep and there was always someone else awake too so idk how that happened. You don't technically know the people around you so if the person who stole it didn't look obviously homeless or something maybe they just assumed they knew whoever stole it? I saw her get into a van with a lot of people Friday night after she came back to the theater and she had family with her it seemed so yeah, I had all those questions too. 

 

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Did the police come? The whole thing sounds fishy, I wonder if a member of her group had it but she had to save face? If she had a device to tweet, she could have gotten in touch with the phone company even via chat if on iPad. Idk about non iPhones but I'm assuming that they all have something similar to find my phone and/or the ability to remotely lock/erase it. I doubt it was really stolen. 

[conojochan]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 3:43pm

Recent experience

Friday May 27th at 1pm we have one person arrive for Cancellation line - we were shooting for  saturday matinee or evening. Long line that day was split between those wanting Friday and those wanting Saturday - he got in Saturdays line and was about the 6th person in line (all in front seeking two)  

Splitting the line into two is problematic because it rewards people with two in line ( seeking two tickets for themselves) at that time because one says in one line the other goes to the next day line - If you were only one person there waiting for two tickets (your other arriving later or perhaps sleeping at a local hotel) you could only get in one line

that particular day the rule was if you did not get tickets for Friday show you had to go to the back of the Saturday line (Personally I don't like that rule at all but it benefitted us in the end)

At 530 pm on Friday another of our group of 4 arrives in gets in the Saturday line and is about 12th-13th in line. Mostly everyone in line is saying they want two tickets and a few have people they are intermittedly changing off in line with (perfectly fair in my humble opinion)

At 615 pm the other two arrive - and pair up with the person 5th in line and 13th in line

The Friday line had only 8 tickets in total that night (a few premiums were included in that number) so basically that night was a semi-bust for those that chose that line - very few if any of those not getting tixs to Friday got at the back of the saturday line but those who paired up earlier when the line was split earlier on Friday just moved to their partner who was in line for Saturday

by around midnight the Saturday line had 20 people  that wanted around 32-34 tickets in total - some only wanted matinee, some only evening but most just wanted in the show whether matinee or evening

the 4 people in front of our 5th place in line arrived from 8am to 1pm on Friday  (two line sitters were 2nd and 3rd in line- nice, polite gentleman that did not talk a lot and were prepared with sleeping bags and makeshift pillows)

there was about 10-12 separate people in line seeking a total of 20-24 tickets by 10pm on Friday. Everyone after the line sitters was friendly and spent many hours talking and sharing stories and talking about the show,  About a half in line had seen it before. Everyone seemed comfortable with how we all interpreted the rules and that you needed basically to have one person in line for two tickets at all times (excluding times that person needed to grab coffee, food or run to the store or restroom or just walk to the drugstore at Duane Reade to stretch their legs or break boredom  - NO one was unreasonable around those common sense things.

about 5 or 6 commititted to sleeping  on the hard concrete - the only ones that seemed to really get sleep were those with sleeping bags 

now this particular week was fleet week so from midnight to around 4pm we had many groups of sailors with their dates, wives or just fellow sailors and Marines walking up and down the street.  we also had the obligatory people asking what were doing (my advice is just prepare a funny retort - like you are there to witness a duel between Burr and Hamilton) - we also had the drunks walking by, tourist etc but because the group of cancellation line people is so large there are not any problems .  Around 300 to 5am it gets relatively deserted except for a cacophony of trash trucks endlessly going up 46th Street ( the odd thing is less than 25% of them actually stopped to pick up trash or recyclable cardboard) so that was annoying

daylight occurs between 5-6am and then you realize there are still 8 more hours until the matinee show

from midnight to daybreak about 3-4 more got in line and then another 10 or so lined up from 6am to 10am - so at least 25-30 people in the cancellation line

the folks there overnight also shared coffee runs and community pizzas, Cronuts etc during the stay and some would bring water for others  - Wonderful caring people are how I would describe them in general

The Saturday matinee had an unbelievable # of tickets available through premiums, two unclaimed lottery tickets and the house tickets and other sources.  I think the # was 10 premium tickets (4 sold on Friday and 6 on Saturday between 1100am and 1 pm) and 11 other tickets

Our group of 4 all got in though 1 was the last ticket sold at around 203pm - we ended up with two sitting in the first row (unclaimed lottery) and two sitting just light of center in row G or  H in the center orchestra -  We declined all offers for premium tickets and for us it worked out great because our ticket locations were fabulous (most that paid for premiums had tickets a little further back than where we were but I am guessing no one should draw a conclusion for seating locations from our experience 

the show is even better the second time around because you pick up little things you missed first time

I briefly tried to chat with some staff there about cancellation tickets availabitliy and they always say they don't know (my guess is that so many of the tickets sold end up being premium or house tickets that don't go into the cancellation bucket until a few hours before show (premium) or last 30 minutes or less (house tix)

the one thing they did say was that because it was a holiday weekend matinee there maybe more than usual (I interpreted that to mean there would less public demand for premium or people trying to access the house tickets - but once again just one man's opinion

The experience of participating in the cancellation line is fun but I can understand if it is not everyones cup of tea - I have now done it 3 times and my best advice is try and have fun, there is no telling how many tickets will be available, and know that when you begin you may not get tickets -  

I am also not a big fan of premium tickets being offered to cancellation line at premium prices - I would prefer they just go into the general cancellation buckets and be offered based upon a persons place in line not a persons ability to pay 3X the face value

tx to others that offered advice and shared experiences but I am officially OUT  (picture me as Daveed dropping his mic after he verbally spars with Lin)

 

 

Updated On: 5/29/16 at 03:43 PM

[lelee092]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 4:42pm

Silly question, how much do house tickets go for? i know premiums are around $177 how much cheaper are the house?

[casedilla2]

Posted: 5/29/16 at 4:43pm

According to people who are waiting in the cancellation line today, people in line are getting aggressive and upset about people who are waiting by themselves and planning to buy two tickets and have their plus one arrive closer to showtime. I understand that makes it harder for them to get tickets, but god that is ridiculous of them considering it's totally within the rules.