Wednesday I read that the line is three days wait. I panic and texted my line buddy (she's never posted here but her name was OwlandFinch) she agrees to go early and arrives at 7 pm. She was amazing and I couldn't haven't gotten front row with out her!
Thursday I finally arrived after midnight and to my surprise the line is only 10 deep. We are #1 and #2 with #3 and #4 being line sitters. They were looking for premium.
#5 got there at 8 pm and #6 through 8 at midnight. They were all amazing women and I'm glad #5 was just as nervous and excited as me and had fun with her and OwlandFinch.
Nothing much to note happened at night. Some guy came and dropped a twenty dollar bill in front of us and told us to split it up between us all lol. The scientology video is super annoying and the air pollution from the cars really bothered my eyes. Thank God I wore my glasses cause even today it was rough.
I couldn't really sleep cause I was too excited to even be in front of the theater and lots of people stare at you throughout your wait lol. I bought a backpack with a fold out stool attached to it. I had posted it here about twenty pages back now but I can repost it if anyone wants me to. It was awesome the backpack wasn't too heavy and fit in the overhead on my flight.
I used that chair plus a travel blanket and pillow behind my lower back so sitting wasn't too bad.
It got a little chilly in the early morning hours but I'm a Floridian so anything below 70 is cold to me.
The theater guy got there at 6 and took a picture of our places in line. More people start to show up from then on. A line sitter with a eye patch showed up and took a picture too.
By 9 and 10 I think the line stretched out beyond the overhang so those poor guys didn't have any shade but the two line sitters had kind of spread out so the people on the steps weren't sitting close together.
The streets got more busy at this point. Someone and her daughter (sorry I don't remember your name) showed up and was super nice! I think they decided to leave and try it another day. I was told /overheard that Saturday six line sitters had been hired but idk if that was the case.
We all entered the lottery. We all lost lol
At 2 pm or so 4 premium tickets were offered. The two line sitters were no where to be found and so missed out on them. The line sitter with the eye patch and another woman in front of him took them
I know the line sitters need breaks too but they clearly worked together so idk why they couldn't take their breaks in shifts. I would have been pissed if I was their client tbh. #5 was upset cause she didn't want premium and it would have bumped her up in line if they had been able to take them. We hoped more premium became available so the line sitters don't have to waste tickets on themselves. I had to break the news to one line sitter that the show was at 8 and not 7. He was very disappointed he was gonna have to wait longer. It was funny.
Oh by far the most annoying thing about the line besides the scientology video is people asking what we were doing, how long we were/had been waiting, how much are tickets, etc. We were trying to be nice to keep the positive energy going but by show time I just wanted to tell people to Google it themselves. It got really annoying towards the end since we were so anxious. One of the line sitters joked we should have charged money to answer the questions to pay off our tickets. We probably could have paid for one by the end it felt like lmao. So many questions.
From 4 pm on I'm just a jumble of nerves and excitement. We knew tickets could be offered at any time. The guy running the (short Porta Rican guy) theater had never mentioned to put chairs away. It was the line sitters who enforced that rule. The theater guy later told us after we moved to the Marriott side that he didn't care about chairs as long as there was no tents and we were happy. The line sitters pulled there chairs out again. I sat on my stool/backpack till 3:30 PM and no one said anything to me. Maybe cause it wasn't as glaring as the bigger chairs. Idk
After 5 we are moved to the Marriott side. 5:52 Lin jogged past us and yelled out "I hope everyone cancels!" went through metal doors closet to Marriott. Also I think people got there to wait for stage door at noon? Crazy!
Daveed showed up super late too and rushed past us. That's all the cast we saw.
6 ish pm 4 more premium get offered and the line sitters snatched them up and leave. I'm glad they didn't have to go in the show and prevent other people from getting in.
Fast forward to 7:50 and I'm a dying bundle of nerves. People were taking their sweat time getting into the theater when I finally got the go ahead to go into the theater! I pay for tickets (which you DON'T need Id for btw) OwlandFinch came in and we rushed to our seats. We had just enough time to take pictures before the show started!
Both of us were wide awake. OwlandFinch had been sleeping on the streets for two days and was fine. The show is so exciting and goes by so fast!
But by midnight it all hit me and I rushed to get into a bed before I passed out. OwlandFinch mentioned she kinda wanted to get back in line but I wanted a shower and I know that was just left over Hamilton energy she was feeling lol
The show guys! omg it exceeded expectations. Every member of the obc was there! Lin winked at me! Leslie stared at me during wait for it. Non Stop has been my favorite song since I started listening and to see it in person was worth a week waiting in line tbh
It was just a indescribable experience to have followed the cast for so long and to them see it all in person. I've never followed a musical like this so having that background when seeing it made it extra special.
The cast recording doesn't do it justice.
FYI USE the restroom before you get to the theater. The line during intermission wrapped INSIDE the theater where seats were and out back into the lobby. INSANE I wasted time trying to do that or get merchandise and just wound up doing a loop of the theater. Got merchandise at the end and then waited by metal doors to see Lin and Daveed take off.
The line was split at 5 pm and it seems like it's at the theater guys discretion. Honestly doesn't seem far but not up to me. I heard the girls that were 2 behind me go up and ask if they would be able to go to the front of sat line if they didn't get in and I guess was told of course that would make sense. Both lines at this point stretched almost to the opening of the Marriott back entrance (that hallway where the On Your Feet stuff is plastered all over the place) from what I understand 8 premium and 8 reg were offered.
After the show it seemed like many of the line that had been waiting for Friday tickets had left and the line for Sat wasn't too bad. Idk if Fri people got discouraged and left? That seems to have been the case Thu night. People who had waited Thu during the day bailed by midnight. I guess a lot of people didn't want to wait during the night lol
All in all it was an amazing experience! I'm definitely debating doing it again if I can find another buddy. Lin was fantastic and probably the one I was most taken by. His heart eyes at Eliza were the best.
The only thing that didn't work out was my air bnb but that's a different story.
I even managed to stay awake for a matinee of Fun Home and now I'm back in Florida exhausted but wth two days to recover.
I think that is everything. Let me know if you have questions. I'm already in Hamilton withdrawals and still in shock OwlandFinch and I managed to pull this off.
Also the girl who had her phone stolen Wed night came back at 6ish. She had gotten in Thu night. There is a black women with a buzz cut who walks around in fuzzy socks who comes by the line a lot and she thinks that is who stole the phone. Apparently she confronted her but the women said she had no proof. So she came back to try to get security footage maybe?
Anyways thanks to everyone who posted their stories and info on this thread! It was beyond helpful!
I so appreciate this board, it had me very prepared for my trip to NYC and the Hamilton Cancellation line that I will now give My Hamilton Cancellation Line Experience:
If you don’t want to read my detailed experience here is the nitty gritty:
Arrive Monday at 6:00pm for Tuesday I am 16th in line.
Tuesday May 24 Show: 10 regular tickets come out (don’t know break down) 0 Premiums (plus 3 tickets resold to line from patrons) 13 total in.
Wednesday May 25 show: 9 regulars (4 unclaimed lottery) +4 Premiums 13 total in.
Now all the stuff in between:
Monday May 23 8:00am - I grab my 11-year-old daughter from bed in Alabama put her in the car for a surprise. After planes, trains & automobiles (not in that order) we arrive at the RRT 6:00pm Monday May 23.
To my surprise I find we are nowhere near first in line, as a matter of fact we are 16 & 17 in line. The line begins with 2 girls for 2 tickets that arrived at 2 pm, 2 line sitters for premiums if they come out, otherwise for 4 tickets, one girl from MIT for 2 tickets (friend arrives next morning), 2 more girls paired for 2 tickets (Maryland & Sweet Girl), 4 HS kids for 4 tickets, 4 college friends for 4 tickets and finally myself and my daughter for 2 tickets. I already begin the prep with her that we will not be seeing the show on Tuesday! I quickly settle in and start making plans. I have a weeks’ worth of luggage with me, an 11-year-old girl and what appears to be just over a 48 hour wait ahead. Around 8:00pm a young boy shows up on his own joins the line. He does not get in and this makes me very sad, very nice kid, had tickets to another show on Wednesday already so he only had the one day. Around 9:30 my daughter and I go get some food and do the stage door at Something Rotten which turns out to be great because we run into friends from home, and they come get my daughter and take her around the city for a good part of the day on Tuesday.
After grabbing some food and Something Rotten stage door we return to line and I come to the conclusion that my old body and her young one are going to need some time on a real mattress over the next 48 hours. I get to know the 4 college kids ahead of me, who are also resigned to the fact that this is a 2-night event, and make a deal with them. I would pay for the hotel room, let me and my daughter head back for a few hours then they can use it for a while until it was time to check out. Around midnight we left and got a few hours of good sleep. I leave our sleeping pads, rain coats, blankets and umbrella for the college kids and the nice boy. I get a few hours of sleep, just enough to get me through the day, but also so little that it made the next night’s sleep on the street much easier due to exhaustion. When I returned to the line around 6:00am, 2 of my new line buddies head to the hotel for some sleep! While I was gone a family of 3 had arrived around 2:00am and many more behind them, I did not meet to many of them, the line must have hit 50 people by 9:00am. I was shocked how many stayed until 7:00! I think a few left, and a few purchased from TM. I will get to know a few of them the next night.
As we sit through the day nothing very eventful happens until later in the afternoon. Around 3:00 a line sitter shows up for the Wednesday show and he is very concerned with going down the line asking who is here for tonight and who is here for tomorrow, and all of us from 6-20 for the most part are telling him both, that didn't seem to be an acceptable answer, he really wanted to know where he was in line for the next day. My assumption was that he would be calling his client to let them know the situation. Shortly after this one of the security guys came out also asking what night we were waiting for, so most people just told him that they were there for tomorrow.
Around 5:00pm as expected we are sent to the Marriott side of the RRT and asked to form 2 lines one for today and one for tomorrow. I personally was not happy about this and I feel that the line sitter had something to do with security making this decision. But it really did not help him, everyone who was on the bubble to get in (#8-20) split between the lines. Holding their spots in both lines, and the people behind that, who were willing to stay, just committed to Wednesday.
6:45pm I can see things are getting tense in the line, as no tickets have come out yet. The 2 girls in front have had a friend show up, she is waiting outside the ropes, the line sitters have also had their clients arrive and wait outside the ropes. Box office comes out with 2 tickets the first girl goes in, her newly arrived friend goes in with her (there was some drama there but in short that is the way it worked out), the second girl from the 2:00pm Monday arrival makes it in, then the first line sitter and client, next line sitter and client, the 2 MIT girls, then one more ticket, for one of the 2 girls (Maryland) who had partnered up in line. So a total of 10 tickets are handed out. I have no clue what kind of tickets any of them are. Also on this night one lady comes into the line with 1 ticket she had paid $1100 for (she brought receipt) and she was really embarrassed to be asking money for it but just wanted to get something back, as her friend backed out, I heard her ask $500. I am not sure if a bidding war started but one of the HS kids took it. Also at some point shortly before 7:00 while were waiting for security to come offer tickets, a guy out of nowhere grabbed one of my college kids and said he had 2 tickets and to come with him, so she grabbed a friend off they went and they each got in for $100! So all in all 11 people ahead of me went in on night one! The 3 HS kids in front of me that did not get in decided one night was enough they did not need to miss another day of school. So I am now 4th & 5Th in line, YAY!!! Way better then what I was expecting. Now behind me I have nice boyfriend who arrived around 9:00am Tuesday, always in line for Wednesday, for his girlfriend’s birthday, 2 line sitters and another girl who had arrived around 10am. The girl asked us to hold her place while she took her stuff to a hostel and she would be back before tonight’s show was over.
The Marriott people came and made us move across the street during the show, so we waited by the dumpster between parking lot & Neverland, I made a couple of trips to the theater during the show to make sure that no one was showing up for the line the next day. I did find one, so I had to disappoint her that she was not first but actually about 10th in line.
Before the show let out, my daughter and the remaining college kids and the nice boyfriend had lined up for stage door and it was a great one Lin came out so all is good! I on the other hand sat by the sneak out stage door and got to see and speak briefly to Anthony who is my favorite so that was nice. As the crowd cleared from in front of the RRT we move the line back to the stairs in front of RRT.
About 11:00pm comes and we have some drama. Our new #1 in line, Sweet Girl who had paired up Monday evening with another individual (Maryland) that got her a few spots ahead of her actually arrival time – basically she had jumped the 2 groups of 4, of which only 2 remain. Long story short (1,000 words in HA!) She had found a girl crying outside the RRT because she had bought an online ticket that turned out to be counterfeit, so our #1 thought it would be a great gesture to make this new girl to be her plus one apparently they had some sort of mutual friend. I never did figure this out. None the less I agree very nice gesture, but now that moves us all back one spot. Go back to the beginning of this story, our girls who were 1&2 for Tuesday night, at the last minute were 3 tickets instead of 2, so had they not added a +1 Sweet Girl would have seen the show Tuesday Night. I reminded Sweet Girl of this and how it made her feel at the time she realized she got bumped back. I made the suggestion that Counterfeit Girl be placed as my +1 in the number 6 spot. Needless to say this did not go over well with Counterfeit Girl. She was very clear that Sweet Girl could take who ever she wanted, which I agreed was correct. But I appealed to Sweet Girl that there were 5 of us that arrived Monday afternoon that remained, and that she had jumped 2 of them already and that we had spent all this time together and asked her how she would feel if this decision kept one of us out. A few other people got in the discussion and it was decided that Counterfeit Girl would be 6 in line, but would not sit with me, we would need to change seats with the others. Great! Problem solved! And I certainly think a fair decision, though now boyfriend points out she is ahead of him and he had been there all day and I agree with him as well. Sweet Girl and Counterfeit Girl go to dinner; only Sweet Girl returns. Counterfeit Girl decided that 6th was not worth the risk of sleeping out, and was her last day with family before going to Germany so she was out. She did return the next afternoon to tell everyone goodbye and had a word or two for me – oh well. As it turns out had she stayed she would have gotten in with great seats. As the drama was unfolding a group of 3 arrive, a brother, sister & friend.
So around midnight as we all tuck in for the night the line looks like this: Sweet Girl 1, college kids 2 &3, me and my daughter 4&5 boyfriend 6&7, girl who left for hostile never returns, line sitter 8 but premiums only, 8:00 pm arrival Adult willing to take premium or tickets 9&10, planning on bringing friend if it works out, brother/sister/friend 11,12,13.
Wednesday morning more people have arrived, a girl willing to take a premium, line sitter (though this one never admits to it) hostel girl comes back (possibly a line sitter but not for sure), but does not ask for spot back in line, both willing to take premiums. We do not sleep in order so when security comes out at 6:00 am and takes pictures in the morning we are not in order, but as long as we are in photo we are good. Line continues to grow but not near the number as on Tuesday. There is no Matinee for Hamilton this Wednesday.
Around 1:30 I walk my daughter to Something Rotten matinee, may be the only show other than Hamilton she sees if this goes on another day.
Wednesday is a little more active for tickets. 2 premiums come out around 4:30 in the afternoon, the first line sitter takes them. Security then comes out with 2 more, and when he does Adult who had arrived the night before is in the bathroom, as well as the next girl in line willing to take premiums, but line sitter and hostel girl (possible sitter) are holding their hands up. This is where I take action and tell security that Adult is in bathroom and she is next in line and wants them, he tells me that he has to pass her if she is not there, I make a little fuss and he gives me 2 minutes. The matinees are just letting out so there is a crowd, I run through all sorts of old people screaming “excuse me, emergency, so sorry …..” as I get through the crowd Adult is just coming out the revolving door of Marriott so I yell for her to run, now we are both knocking old people down and get to the ticket office just in time!!! YAY! I feel bad for the 2 people the tickets could have been passed to, but the other girl wanting premiums behind Adult was in the bathroom as well so just seemed like the right thing to do (turns out if Adult had missed them she would have gotten the last 2 tickets, not sure where the seats were though). I visit the line on Thursday, Hostel Girl and Line Sitter (still not admitting that he is) are at the front of the line and they get premiums for Thursday night.
Steins arrives sometime in the afternoon while we are all still in front of the RRT, he also begins to ask who is staying for Thursday, everyone around me again is telling him both. He does not like this, he really wants to know his number. He feels they will do 2 lines, I tell him if they do that we will split and be in both lines, so he heads to the back of the line somewhere.
Around 4:00 Leslie Odom comes, then leaves several in line go to get photos, he is very polite, says he will be right back, comes back with some coffee and says lets do this.
Around 5:00 they move us to the Marriott side of the RRT, but do not split us in to 2 lines, even though they were adamant the night before this is the way they do it. Around 6:30 they come out and they ask Sweet Girl how many tickets she says one they send her in, then College girls get asked they say 2 and get in, then they say they have one more, I send my daughter in. I have to go in a pay, this is when I find out these 4 are unclaimed lottery tickets. FRONT ROW! The college kids and my daughter run off to Marriott to clean up!
Around 7:45 they come out and tell me they have one ticket. This is very exciting, but I feel bad because the line sitter I spent Wednesday with tells me since the new rules are out they bring out the premiums, then the pairs and then the singles, so if this is true there are no pairs coming out. Turns out not to be true. Boyfriend, and girlfriend (who joined us Wednesday morning) get in and sit right next to Adult who paid premium price (ouch). Then 2 of the 3 sister/brother/friend got in. My seat was a special needs chair in the last row of orchestra – but is the best seat I could ask for, being under 5 feet tall it is very rare that the person in front of me is not an issue for me to see. These seats were elevated so it was fantastic!
All in all I would do it all over again! The show was the best thing I have ever seen, by spending the extra night the seats worked out perfect. But even better than the show for me was my daughter’s excitement.
Congrats on getting tickets! Marin4au I just have to second everything you said. I would do it all over again in a heart beat. I also think you made the right call by not letting a single ticket person decide to get two tickets. Thats unfair to the people behind them.
Thanks so much for posting while you were there your info helped me get first in line for Friday!
The line is really unpredictable. Seems like Mondays and Tuesday crowd decided to stick it out while Thu didn't so if you showed up 8 pm Monday no ticket but 8 pm Fri was early enough to get tickets for Friday.
I would definitely recommend planning to wait at least two days (hopefully you don't have to) and stick it out of you can. Totally worth it.
Oh gosh, the line is getting so unpredictable that im getting worried about my trip in 2 weeks. Being by myself, if they decide to split the line then im screwed as id be sooo gutted if i had moved in to the queue for the next night but then people behind me got in for that night. I dont know why im stressing about it already lol
Thanks again everyone that shares their experiences, it really helps to prepare for upcoming trips!
gatorgirl2 said: "Congrats on getting tickets! Marin4au I just have to second everything you said. I would do it all over again in a heart beat. I also think you made the right call by not letting a single ticket person decide to get two tickets. Thats unfair to the people behind them.
Personally, I don't think anyone has the right to tell someone they can't decide to get 2 tickets. For that matter, a single person has no obligation to tell anyone else on line how many tickets they want. What's to prevent them from saying "I haven't decided. Don't know my friend's plans just yet." No need to openly "declare" until theater staff ask.
Wondering how it went last night. It does seem there were more resale tickets this weekend than there usually are, I assume because of the holiday.
Does anyone know for sure that Lin is doing the 7:30 tonight? My daughter and son-in-law are thinking about resale for tonight.
gatorgirl2 said: "Also the girl who had her phone stolen Wed night came back at 6ish. She had gotten in Thu night. There is a black women with a buzz cut who walks around in fuzzy socks who comes by the line a lot and she thinks that is who stole the phone. Apparently she confronted her but the women said she had no proof. So she came back to try to get security footage maybe?
Anyways thanks to everyone who posted their stories and info on this thread! It was beyond helpful!
"I don't see where the alleged thief's RACE is relevant to this discussion, yet you didn't point out the race of the accuser. Hmmmm? She's simply "the girl". Not "white girl". I guess white is default and everyone else is OTHER. Just like the Puerto Rican guard.
And your OBSESSION with line sitters; what they do; how they do it; the types of tickets they get is rather revealing about your personality. A bit like steins: nosy busy body, borderline bigotted attitude, with entitlement issues. And I forgot, the main ingredient: NO LIFE.
My advice to everyone on this board is to not tell your business to nosy strangers such as gatorgirl. Some people will smile in your face and stab you in the back. She seems just the type. If you need clarification, is best to ask guards.
No one has a right to know how many tickets you're getting, who your line sitting partner is, etc. Line sitting is an every man/woman for themselves adventure. Don't let false camaraderie get you put off the line! It's ok to be pleasant and make friends, just keep your business to yourself. My advice.
Need some advice. So thinking I am going to stick it out and see this before I move to Florida. Unfortunately I live too far away for the cancellation line to be a real possibility. I am targeting the Wednesday matinee. I have watched StubHub and Tm drop in price a few hours before but I will have to run over to Staples or Fedex to print the ticket. my limit (with fees) is $500 and it's just me. Has anyone observed if that drop is reliable? Right now on Tm there are only quantities of 2 and 4 left which concerns me. If StubHub as the digital file can I be sure it's legitimate?
Thank you guys! I can't believe I'm doing this! If anyone is doing the line on Weds, let me know. I would honestly be happy to bring some Hamilton fans some coffee and snacks.
^^The line sitters were asking how many tickets people want in that lady with the daughters post. You guys do the thing you're telling people they don't have to answer to.
MISH2 said: "Personally, I don't think anyone has the right to tell someone they can't decide to get 2 tickets. For that matter, a single person has no obligation to tell anyone else on line how many tickets they want. What's to prevent them from saying "I haven't decided. Don't know my friend's plans just yet." No need to openly "declare" until theater staff ask.
mailhandler777 said: "^^The line sitters were asking how many tickets people want in that lady with the daughters post. You guys do the thing you're telling people they don't have to answer to.
"I'm a line sitter and I NEVER ask people how many tickets they're getting. NONE OF MY BUSINESS. Line sitters and line sitting companies are different entities. I'm saying, don't trust ANYONE, LINE SITTER OR REGULAR PATRON. Doesn't matter. Anyone is capable of subterfuge.
mailhandler777 said: "I personally think it should be 1 ticket per person to cut out this whole line sitting crap.
Some rushes do that. I think they should all be like that.
The way I see it is if I can't be there myself to get my own ticket I shouldn't be seeing the show.
"Anybody on the cancellation line is a line sitter. Yes, patrons are line sitters too. Just not professionals. Cutting us out, will not make anything easier for you
happydude said: "Anybody on the cancellation line is a line sitter. Yes, patrons are line sitters too. Just not professionals. Cutting us out, will not make anything easier for you"
If it's 1 ticket per person and no line swapping it would definitely make it easier for others. No one would hire someone(professional or not) if they could only get 1 ticket and have to use it themselves.
i can't wait to head 'downstate' and try for my shot! I think that unless I find a line buddy that can wait overnight before I arrive on June10th I will have to buy online from TM between 6pm and Showtime...if so, how far to a place to print? Could I buy at 7 and make it back before 8?
So exciting and nerve-racking at the same time! Again I offer to buy a buddy's tix for June 10 or 11 if anyone is there to wait!
mailhandler777 said: "happydude said: "Anybody on the cancellation line is a line sitter. Yes, patrons are line sitters too. Just not professionals. Cutting us out, will not make anything easier for you"
If it's 1 ticket per person and no line swapping it would definitely make it easier for others. No one would hire someone(professional or not) if they could only get 1 ticket and have to use it themselves.
"Unfortunately for you, that's not how it is. Not all patrons are single, child-free, youthful theatre goers. Where does that leave them? I'm sure the theatre thought of that before, the reason why they issue two tickets per customer. Your idea isn't novel. You're only thinking about what is fair to yourself, not others. Myopic sense of fairness IMO
happydude said: "Unfortunately for you, that's not how it is. Not all patrons are single, child-free, youthful theatre goers. Where does that leave them? I'm sure the theatre thought of that before, the reason why they issue two tickets per customer. Your idea isn't novel. You're only thinking about what is fair to yourself, not others. Myopic sense of fairness IMO"
Not unfortunate for me at all as I have no desire to pay outrageous prices for a show or hire someone to sit for me(professional or not). I'm sure the theatre didn't think that people would hire people to wait days for tickets either.
My idea is actually what a lot of others think should happen to stop this madness.
mailhandler777 said: "happydude said: "Unfortunately for you, that's not how it is. Not all patrons are single, child-free, youthful theatre goers. Where does that leave them? I'm sure the theatre thought of that before, the reason why they issue two tickets per customer. Your idea isn't novel. You're only thinking about what is fair to yourself, not others. Myopic sense of fairness IMO"
Not unfortunate for me at all as I have no desire to pay outrageous prices for a show or hire someone to sit for me(professional or not). I'm sure the theatre didn't think that people would hire people to wait days for tickets either.
My idea is actually what a lot of others think should happen to stop this madness.
"The current system allows able bodied patrons and professional line sitters alike to purchase tickets one ticket for themselves and one ticket for someone else. A lot of times that other person is someone who can not do the line for all sorts of reasons. A lot of times, people (regular patrons) are waiting for a parent, grandparent, child or disabled person. Those people are not professional line sitters. In trying to eradicate line sitters, you're also hurting those people.
^I'm not hurting anyone. If my disabled aunt wants to see the show(or any show for that matter) I'll wait until the next block of tickets go on sale. Everyone has that opportunity but don't use it and that's not my fault.
MISH2 said: "Personally, I don't think anyone has the right to tell someone they can't decide to get 2 tickets. For that matter, a single person has no obligation to tell anyone else on line how many tickets they want. What's to prevent them from saying "I haven't decided. Don't know my friend's plans just yet." No need to openly "declare" until theater staff ask.
You are correct on both counts. In my case I told the person in front of the line to fully think through the ramifications of her decission and gave her other alternatives. Had she said I am doing what I want that would have been the end of it, but she didn't, she looked at the others, and was having second thoughts, because she had not fully thought this through it was just an automatic impulse to do something nice for someone crying on the street. Frankly the thing that surprised me the most out of the whole disagreement was how adamant counterfeit girls was to be number two in line when we were not trying to kick her out of line. When I began the discussion I really did not expect conflict.
As far as declaring how many tickets you are getting in my Opinion this is just common courtesy. My experience of two days in line there were only two people that went in that did not come sit in the line and wait ( other than line sitter clients). The Adult who bought 2 premiums her friend was at work and the girls who were front in line for Tuesday's show who brought one person . It is not just single people, everyone in line can buy 2 the groups of four could've bought eight tickets.
I think a lot of it comes down to personality. Before coming up I contacted people on the board who were interested in buying a ticket for someone who was sitting in the line. Though there is nothing wrong with this after having sat the first day knowing I had a good chance of tickets on Wednesday I did not communicate again because I would have felt bad displacing people I have been out on the street with for so long. But again to each his own. I also contacted SOLD prior to coming to see how that option worked. It was well out of my price range. After seeing the line sitters work I would've been very uncomfortable to be a client as well. To walk up an hour before the show stand outside the line and then when my line sitter was up just walk to him and go in would make me feel uncomfortable. But again that's just my personality I am not judging the people who do that.
MISH2 They do ask you at like 6:30 in the morning how many tickets you want. However the guy who asked was no where to be found when it came time to buy the tickets and its pretty chaotic. So I guess someone could change their number from 1 ticket to 2 and the theater wouldn't have an issue with it unless of course people behind you objected and complained to the theater.
Honestly there was not much time at the end to even complain to the theater if we needed to if we thought something wasn't "fair". Its chaotic and you really rely on the line policing itself. Every one knows their number and tries to watch out for each other. I tried finding the SOLD dudes when the premium tickets first came out but the women wasn't willing to wait for them the come back. Luckily it all worked out and they didn't have to watch the show that night, which benefits everyone else in line.
Yes it is every "line sitter" for themselves but by being courteous and upfront and looking out for each other it just makes for a better experience for everyone. People willing to wait or pay that much to see this show obviously really want to see it and I would have hated to ruin someone's experience. We were trying to put out "good karma" in order to hopefully get some back lol.
I have no problem with two people who get there at the same time asking for 4 tickets but for example if I had gotten there at midnight and gotten second in line because I was buddies with OwlandFInch and then when the time comes we decide to get 2 tickets each I would have been mad had I been behind them. I think the line sitters behind me would have even been upset too. if we had BOTH waited the 50 hours OwlandFinch did then I would say getting 4 tickets (from my understanding of the rules) would have been fine.
I agree that if two people have both been waiting in line for equal amounts of time and had decided to get 4 tickets instead of 2 it wouldn't be against the rules. However