Into the Woods Official Movie Thread — Page 172

I'll just say my only problem with this film was the condensed "second act". I think way too much was cut from it and it just felt rushed and the payoff wasn't as meaningful as I think it could have/should have been. But I'm going back again tomorrow and maybe I'll see it differently. Other than that though, I thought it was absolutely gorgeous.

Was anybody else very amused when Streep swung from the tree upside down like a bat?


I actually like I Know Things Now....it wasn't meant to be a flashback I don't think...I think what we saw is the nightmare Red was living as she re-told and exaggerated the story to the Baker. Hence the exaggerated wolf shadow on the curtains and what not.

"I felt like Meryl was doing the same deliver and wink line readings she has been doing for a decade now. I wanted to love her in this, but it was her same old shtick even when accompanied by the score."

I vehemently disagree with this.

"I felt like Meryl was doing the same deliver and wink line readings she has been doing for a decade now. I wanted to love her in this, but it was her same old shtick even when accompanied by the score."

I respectfully disagree as well, but hey, that's what different opinions are for!


I thought that her performance was heartbreaking and beautiful. She had some subtle moments, as well as big, tour de force ones. For example, the love she brought to her daughter. When the Witch cut Rapunzel's hair, it obviously hurt the Witch to do this. Then, later, when she finds out her wish has been crushed (wrong ingredients), she has tears forming in her eyes as she sits to herself, because she only wanted her beauty back so she could win her daughter back. Her transformation and the contrast between her two selves was breathtaking. Then, in Last Midnight, her voice boomed through the speakers in her mental breakdown and exit from the world. I also appreciated how she sang the first part of the Lament live, and her entire rap was live too.


Bravo Ms Streep!

Updated On: 12/25/14 at 07:48 PM

Just got back from seeing it. Dear God, I had no idea THAT MANY theatre geeks lived near me--the place was jam-packed when I came and when I left.

Upon viewing the thing, I can really understand the "good-not-great" reaction coming from it. The first act was HOLY MOTHERFRICKING FRICK OF ALMIGHTY SAVIORS amazing. From the performances to the script changes to the cinematography, EVERYTHING came together beautifully and enhanced the piece like clockwork. However, as has been said before, the transition to act two was really sudden, and the last half did seem very rushed. Keep in mind I am a HUGE Sondheim geek and this is my absolute favorite musical--but act two seemed super tacked-on and forced...and even to me, the songs did start to all sound alike (This could have been due to the redundant visuals during this time--it was just dark blue for nearly fifty minutes. Things felt claustrophobic after a while, and not in a beneficial way).

Still, I think part of my disappointment was because of my familiarity with the show. I saw it with two people who'd never seen the stage production, and they were completely enchanted.


RANDOM THOUGHTS/NITPICKS:

-Looking back, I think that the Rapunzel/Witch confrontation should have been moved to right after the wedding. With act two condensed so much, the Witch's depression barely had any time to settle in. She loses Rapunzel, and in the very next scene she's all "Last Midnight".

-Even though "Last Midnight" came at a really awkward time, that didn't hinder the power of the song and performance. Not only did Streep KICK THIS SONG IN THE FACE, the overall filmmaking that went into that scene was perfect. It also really slowed down the fast pace, which was good. Act two was really lacking in the creative cinematography from the first act, but this was an exception.

-Since the "Agony" Reprise was cut (a decision I had originally thought beneficial), the Prince's seduction of the Baker's Wife really came out of nowhere.

-Anna Kendrick was a mixed bag, and she was pretty much the weakest link (I rather liked Johnny Depp, whose portrayal was still very pedophile-esque, but in a more modern "creepy guy with candy" way). She was mostly fine, occasionally brilliant, but her delivery of "there are times I actually enjoy cleaning" was cringe-worthy.

-This may have been because of ratings, but nobody in this movie wanted to outright say "Your granny/mother/wife is DEAD", always "She didn't make it", "I couldn't find her anywhere", or the simple "I'm sorry". It didn't sound like a subtler transition to film, it felt like they were trying REALL REALLY hard not to acknowledge any of the obvious darkness. Even my two friends thought it was weird. We don't see Jack's mother die, just the Bakers fanning her as she makes them promise to protect Jack, then we cut away. Later, the Baker just kind of randomly tells Jack that she was killed. A huge nitpick, I know...but still odd.

Just got back as well, really enjoyed the movie but think that the tonal shift would have worked a lot better if they'd kept in "So Happy", the song that opens the second act. We never see the characters living in their new lives so it's hard to think how cinderella could have known that she wasn't happy being a princess,etc. they could have had the wedding, shown the beanstalk growing, and then moved into "So Happy" and started the second half from there. I think that would have greatly smoothed things out.

Saw the movie tonight, thought it was AWESOME. The cast was excellent, the songs were well done, the sets and costumes were fantastic and fitting.

Theater was probably about 85% full, the audience wasn't very responsive but there was laughter, especially during "Agony".

Some idiot brought a baby who started crying before the movie startedI thoug . I don't know what happened to them, but that was kind of irritating.

I saw about half a dozen children under the age of 10 there.

I'd give it about a 97/100. A few quibbles:

We hear the Baker narrating Rapunzel's story, which technically he shouldn't even know given that he never meets either Rapunzel or her prince. His wife knows there's a chick named Rapunzel in a tower who is visited by the witch, but as he narrates the story he talks like he knows Rapunzel is the baby the witch raised - and hence his sister - and there's no way for him to know that.

I wonder why 'No More' was cut. The whole sequence where the Baker doubts himself and then recovers is much too short and feels insignicant. 'No More' would have given it the weight that part of the show needs.

Chris Pine was great, but then we all knew he would be. Billy Magnussen was also terrific, and his Prince is so goofy and likable I wish the writers had given him more to do. This prince isn't the arrogant jerk he is in the stage version. I predict a lot of fanfics and Devianart.

I sure wish they'd done something with the final reprise of 'Into the Woods' besides run it over the credits. In my theater everybody was up, putting on their coats, and leaving the theater while it was playing, so just about nobody was paying attention to it.

When Meryl started to sing "Children Will Listen", a good part of the theater I was in broke into laughter. Did that happen to anyone else? I thought it was just SO strange.

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Updated On: 12/25/14 at 11:01 PM

Even the changes I scoffed at - no more "no More" are you &*)(ing kidding me? - worked so seamlessly in the movie, which, more surprisingly, remains completely thematically true to the core of the musical.

This. On a second viewing, I was really impressed and taken by the instrumental/spoken "No More." It made me emotional. It's extremely true to the tone and theme of the song.

I just got home from seeing it and I must say I am rather shocked at the love for this film.

The Good:

- James Corden was great as the Baker. He outshined Emily Blunt by miles. Not sure how she got nominated for a golden globe. Actually I do because the category is completely barren.

- Lilla Crawford was fantastic. One of the more solid performances.

- Christ Pine was good. Definitely didn't steal the show though and Agony is overhyped, but he was serviceable. His voice is spectacular.

The Bad:

"Hello little girl". What was that? It looked like Rob Marshall had no idea what do with that scene. It really just did not work on film. I'm also confused as to what exactly Johnny Depp was? Was he a wolf? Was he a man wolf? Why does a wolf have a suit on? The whole scene just made absolutely no sense. My audience burst out laughing during the song and I had no idea why. Also, Johnny Depp needs to stop being in musicals.

"I know things now". Didn't work. Completely stopped the pacing and was so awkward. I wish they had just cut it but then of course the theatre queens would have gone Ape sht. Lilla did great in it though and she tried her best, the song just didn't work where it was at and probably wouldn't have worked in any other place.

- Daniel Huttlestone. The kid needs to take acting lessons. But I could understand him in this movie so at least there is some progress. He wasn't downright bad, but he was very weak and the other actors carried him.

- The Witch's character arc. I rolled my eyes during her little lament (way to half ass the end, Streep). So let's see, Rapunzel rides off with her prince and never wants to see the witch again. Cool. That's fine. That worked. But THEN Witch sings this little song about how children don't listen. It completely fell flat. If you don't know the musical then it probably seemed fine, but at that moment in the movie I completely lost all interest for the Witch.

- "Last Midnight". There really was no reason for her sing this song. It made no sense. Streep sounded great on it though.

- The Baker's wife infidelity. Yes we get it Disney, you want kids to come see this so only light kissing can be seen. Lord it's almost like her adultery didn't even matter. I mean all she did was make out with the prince for 10 minutes. This big moment just seemed so small. And the way they handled her Death was laughable. It was almost as bad as Marion Cotillard's death in Dark knight rises.

- MISSED BEATS! That's the biggie. So many missed emotional beats in this film. Maybe it had to do with the crap opening to the 2nd act. I was laughing (but crying on the inside) when Cinderella gets told by the birds that her Prince has cheated. It's like she didn't even care. "Oh that doesn't matter now". It's like she just got told that the sky is blue.

There was just no weight to this film. The Witch's arc wasn't handled properly. Nothing sank in.

- "No one is alone" a complete miss.

The main problem I found with the film is that it felt so shallow. It was almost like nothing mattered in the 2nd half of the film. All the beats were rushed, poignancy of lines were completely missed. I mean, "No one is alone" is suppose to be that that 11 o clock number that just hits you in the heart. I felt nothing. People around me kept looking at their watches. The song lost all it's poison.

In all I don't think it's a bad film and if you don't know the musical that well then you will like it a lot more. I just found most of it shallow and missing the mark. Not all was bad, Agony was funny and blunt and James had good chemistry. She doesn't hold even half a candle to Joanna Gleason but then again no one really does. I give this film 6/10

Updated On: 12/25/14 at 11:15 PM

Went to a sold out matinee at the Ziegfeld today. Perfect theatre to see it in and with a crowd who very clearly knew the musical. When it faded to black at the final frame, the entire theatre let out a sigh of happiness and gave a huge round of heartfelt applause. It's not perfect, but it's pretty close. If I had to request one do-over it would be, as best12bars said, to give a bit more breathing room for the second half. Maybe an extra 2-3 minutes, just to really let the characters' emotions set in. But, honestly, I can't complain. Not when this is what we got.

Everyone is pretty stellar in this but we ALL must give special attention to Ms. Blunt who has made the finest Baker's Wife since Joanna Gleason. So much heart, wit, tenderness, spontaneity and a truly beautiful voice. And, to top it all off, it comes across as so effortless. It's the kind of performance that should be considered for every major acting award because she completely inhabits her character and becomes the most crucial piece of the movie without ever calling attention to herself. Sadly, because there are no "tricks" or tear-down-the-wall dramatics to her performance, it's very possible that she will be shut out of the Oscar race. But she should take comfort in knowing that she succeeded flawlessly with a part many talented actresses have failed in. It's amazing how when we all were dream casting this movie, her name never came up for the Baker's Wife. Now I can't imagine any other actress in Hollywood who could've done half of what she did.

Have every intention of going again. If today's crowd was any indication, I won't be the only one.

Also, all Hollywood directors take note of the 16-minute Prologue in this movie: THAT is how you f*cking direct a musical number.

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Sorry Ljay but The Witch's arc got so rushed and by the time Last Midnight came, there was just no impact. No weight to her character. She really got butchered in the 2nd half.