Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be "actors"- Page 3
Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be "actors"
henrikegerman
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/29/05
#50Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/8/20 at 3:36pm
thank you, Gaveston. Didn't really consider that.
#51Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/8/20 at 9:23pm
GavestonPS said: "I am reminded of the time 25 years ago I wore a button to grad school that read, "Please Don't Feed or Tease the Straight People”."
Okay - that’s actually funny. I want one.
#52Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/8/20 at 9:41pm
joevitus said: "Dionysus3 said: "Harris asks interesting questions."
Name one.”
Who sees you?
Who are we when we’re challenged?
How does the the insidious legacy of hundreds of years of racism and white supremacy affect us all?
To what lengths will people go to protect whiteness?
Is it possible for a white person to ever truly empathize and connect with a Black partner?
How has the legacy of oppression informed and created colorism?
To name a few.
Also, beyond the play itself:
Who is the theatre for?
Who gets to define the experience of going to the theatre?
How can we make theatre relevant to more people?
#53Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/8/20 at 10:33pm
Wait. Since when has Paul Alexander Nolan turned gay?
#54Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/8/20 at 10:44pm
Having an African American playing a Japanese character... Umm... Hard pass for me.
#55Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 12:34am
Dionysus3 said: "joevitus said: "Dionysus3 said: "Harris asks interesting questions."
Name one.”
Who sees you?
Who are we when we’re challenged?
How does the the insidious legacy of hundreds of years of racism and white supremacy affect us all?
To what lengths will people go to protect whiteness?
Is it possible for a white person to ever truly empathize and connect with a Black partner?
How has the legacy of oppression informed and created colorism?
To name a few.
Also, beyond the play itself:
Who is the theatre for?
Who gets to define the experience of going to the theatre?
How can we make theatre relevant to more people?"
I don't consider them interesting questions, and they are all predicated on a bias about race or "privilege" that I consider cartoonish and inaccurate.
#56Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 8:38am
It;s always amusing to see white people get outraged when a person of color says something that isn't "white people are great."
Half of these posts are "as a black man he should know his place." Donald Trump says hateful things every day on Twitter and there's no outrage. But Jeremy O Harris says one thing that's slightly controversial and he's a nothing and nobody?
#57Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 8:53am
joevitus said: "Dionysus3 said: "joevitus said: "Dionysus3 said: "Harris asks interesting questions."
Name one.”
Who sees you?
Who are we when we’re challenged?
How does the the insidious legacy of hundreds of years of racism and white supremacy affect us all?
To what lengths will people go to protect whiteness?
Is it possible for a white person to ever truly empathize and connect with a Black partner?
How has the legacy of oppression informed and created colorism?
To name a few.
Also, beyond the play itself:
Who is the theatre for?
Who gets to define the experience of going to the theatre?
How can we make theatre relevant to more people?"
I don't consider them interesting questions, and they are all predicated on a bias about race or "privilege" that I consider cartoonish and inaccurate."
You don't believe in white privelege? Are you joking?
iluvtheatertrash
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/9/04
#58Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 8:59am
Nobody here is debating race as Jeremy’s tweet wasn’t about race, poisonivy. We’re questioning his insinuations about gender, and his gross disrespect for male actors - especially those who perform his work.
So, before you go making this about race, try staying on topic.
#59Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 9:26am
iluvtheatertrash said: "Nobody here is debating race as Jeremy’s tweet wasn’t about race, poisonivy. We’re questioning his insinuations about gender, and his gross disrespect for male actors - especially those who perform his work.
So, before you go making this about race, try staying on topic."
But in all honesty, we do have to consider that it may be about race. A queer black man making a statement about actors that may be satirical can be judged more harshly than a white person making the same statement. Also, people who are racist have their antennae up waiting for people of color to say something that they can crucified for. Racists don't pay the same mind to white people and often say, "oh that's just them being themselves. I don't pay that any mind." Black people are held to higher standards and expected to "play nice, play along and fall in line." Harris challenges that and even though I don't always agree with him, I have respect for him and the fact that he gets to make his own choices. He also is aware that he is held responsible for them. He's making an informed decision. That's art.
iluvtheatertrash
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/9/04
#60Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 9:43am
If you want to assume my and other negative reactions are due to race, that’s entirely on you. Because you ARE assuming. If David Lindsay-Abaire tweeted this, I’d be just as disgusted.
Making non-racial issues racial issues is divisive, not healing.
#61Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 10:09am
iluvtheatertrash said: "If you want to assume my and other negative reactions are due to race, that’s entirely on you. Because you ARE assuming. If David Lindsay-Abaire tweeted this, I’d be just as disgusted.
Making non-racial issues racial issues is divisive, not healing."
As I said Donald Trump says 1000x worse every day on Twitter and people here love him. But Jeremy O Harris says ONE thing that's at worse ill-advised and rude and people are ready to lynch him? There wouldn't be this reaction if Tony Kushner said the same thing.
#62Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 10:18am
You know, I was just reconsidering seeing the show after my initial holding out due to his Rihanna-inspired obnoxiousness, but with this latest round of distasteful comments, now I'm just out.
"Hey little girls, look at all the men in shiny shirts and no wives!" - Jackie Hoffman, Xanadu, 19 Feb 2008
#63Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 10:18am
poisonivy2 said: "As I said Donald Trump says 1000x worse every day on Twitter and people here love him. ."
...what message board are you even on?
#64Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 10:24am
Kad said: "poisonivy2 said: "As I said Donald Trump says 1000x worse every day on Twitter and people here love him. ."
...what message board are you even on?"
I vividly remember how happy this board was during Election Night 2016/
#65Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 10:30am
A weird bit of revisionist history totally at odds with reality, but okay.
#66Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 10:40am
Kad said: "A weird bit of revisionist history totally at odd with reality, but okay."
Ya this has absolutely nothing to do with then, nor does it reflect this entire board's response to that victory. Gross generalization.
#67Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 10:43am
Mike Barrett said: "Kad said: "A weird bit of revisionist history totally at odd with reality, but okay."
Ya this has absolutely nothing to do with then, nor does it reflect this entire board's response to that victory. Gross generalization."
All I remember are Ol' Blue Eyes, Broadway Concierge and many of the board's most "beloved" members rejoicing.
But my point stands: people have been trying to discredit JOH since Slave Play premiered. They wouldm't react this way if Tony Kushner said anything.
#68Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 12:05pm
poisonivy2 said: "Mike Barrett said: "Kad said: "A weird bit of revisionist history totally at odd with reality, but okay."
Ya this has absolutely nothing to do with then, nor does it reflect this entire board's response to that victory. Gross generalization."
All I remember are Ol' Blue Eyes, Broadway Concierge and many of the board's most "beloved" members rejoicing.
But my point stands: people have been trying to discredit JOH since Slave Play premiered. They wouldm't react this way if Tony Kushner said anything."
Yes we would.
#69Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 12:07pm
joevitus said: "poisonivy2 said: "Mike Barrett said: "Kad said: "A weird bit of revisionist history totally at odd with reality, but okay."
Ya this has absolutely nothing to do with then, nor does it reflect this entire board's response to that victory. Gross generalization."
All I remember are Ol' Blue Eyes, Broadway Concierge and many of the board's most "beloved" members rejoicing.
But my point stands: people have been trying to discredit JOH since Slave Play premiered. They wouldm't react this way if Tony Kushner said anything."
Yes we would."
No you wouldn't because he's white. And that my dear is white privilege.
People always give white people the benefit of the doubt that non-white people do not get.
#70Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 12:11pmTony Kushner would never say anything this idiotic.
#71Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 12:12pm
poisonivy2 said: "joevitus said: "poisonivy2 said: "Mike Barrett said: "Kad said: "A weird bit of revisionist history totally at odd with reality, but okay."
Ya this has absolutely nothing to do with then, nor does it reflect this entire board's response to that victory. Gross generalization."
All I remember are Ol' Blue Eyes, Broadway Concierge and many of the board's most "beloved" members rejoicing.
But my point stands: people have been trying to discredit JOH since Slave Play premiered. They wouldm't react this way if Tony Kushner said anything."
Yes we would."
No you wouldn't because he's white. And that my dear is white privilege.
People always give white people the benefit of the doubt that non-white people do not get."
No, my dear, I wouldn't because I don't determine my responses on the basis of someone's skin color. You can pretend I do if you need to, but I know me and you don't. So the supposed white privilege you're calling out doesn't exist--in this case, anyway.
#72Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 2:52pm
Kushner is a weird example considering his history with controversy regarding his opinions on Israel.
and lol @ the idea that BroadwayConcierge- who constantly received call-outs and pushbacks for their politics- was among the "most beloved" here.
SouthernCakes
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/19
#73Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 3:25pm
Yeah poisonivy2, you’re projecting something onto this that none of us are doing, so chillax. What he said is gross and disrespectful especially considering he has a high profile show going on that has straight members in its cast.
And yes we would all be disgusted if anyone else said this.
#74Jeremy O Harris on men not being able to be
Posted: 1/9/20 at 3:58pm
Dionysus3 said: "joevitus said: "Dionysus3 said: "Harris asks interesting questions."
Name one.”
Who sees you?
Who are we when we’re challenged?
How does the the insidious legacy of hundreds of years of racism and white supremacy affect us all?
To what lengths will people go to protect whiteness?
Is it possible for a white person to ever truly empathize and connect with a Black partner?
How has the legacy of oppression informed and created colorism?
To name a few.
Also, beyond the play itself:
Who is the theatre for?
Who gets to define the experience of going to the theatre?
How can we make theatre relevant to more people?"
Thanks for your post, Dionysus3. The list is both thought-provoking and interesting. I like this guy. I hope Jeremy continues to push buttons.
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