John Lloyd Young Isn't Singing High Notes - Riedel- Page 5

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 4/14/06 at 4:38pm

You're right, and yes, Hollywood gossip is more widely-circulated. But again, my feeling is just... why? I think it's ridiculous that he's paid to do that. And I don't think "it's his job" excuses him, but that's a separate issue, and a circular argument. It just, IMO, shouldn't be.

This is a crappy comparison, but like, if you're a paid assassin, and shooting people is your job, which you were hired to do, that doesn't make it okay.

[Faith2]

Posted: 4/14/06 at 4:44pm

kaboodles041 I love your sig; it's from the Fantasticks, isn't it????!!!!

I've already posted earlier about JLY on a post where I'm saying I agree with an earlier poster who's got a very good undestanding of the situation.

I'm sure there's nothing dishonest going on here - there have been explinations, and I believe them!

John Lloyd Young SHOULD win the Tony - and wouldn't that be a nice 'deserved' slap in the face to that Reidel person!

As I always say, those who cannot do, usualy critize.

[Phantom2]

Posted: 4/14/06 at 4:48pm

Amen to that.

[camthom]

Posted: 4/14/06 at 4:58pm

He has made crap up constantly based on something he "heard" from kids selling T-shirts in front of Broadway shows.

He made up a lot about things heard backstage about Sara Ramirez that if you ask anyone involved directly in the production never were and never would have been said.

He said people were "fired" from shows that they quit.

He said Britney Spears would be going into Sweet Charity...and that it was moving to the Hilton Theatre.

He's made a lot of mistakes based on the words of 1 or 2 people who have no involvement in the actual creation of the shows. Then he selectively reports other things, never telling the whole truth about it.

And, P2, I think that he DOES like JLY's winning smile...Did you read this "straight" reporter's article about Harry Connick Jr's pecs? He had to write it as a script between two Chelsea queens, just so no one could accuse him of liking Harry's nipples. He just apparently likes Harry's nipples more than he likes JLY's winning smile.

[ljay889]

Posted: 4/14/06 at 5:01pm

He said Britney Spears would be going into Sweet Charity...and that it was moving to the Hilton Theatre.

-- Um he never said that was actually happening. He was reporting the Weisslers were in talks with her for the show, and that they would move it to the Hilton if she did it. That info was 100% true. She just decided not to do the show.

[Phantom2]

Posted: 4/14/06 at 5:01pm

Are you an intern at The Post?

Updated On: 4/14/06 at 05:01 PM

[ljay889]

Posted: 4/14/06 at 5:05pm

I wish!

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 4/14/06 at 5:37pm

Ugh. That's all I have to say to so much of this ridiculous thread.

Posted: 4/15/06 at 8:44am

Where have I been? I just read this. Regardless I think John does a great job in JBoys. If this isn't true Riedel should be slapped!

[YankeeGal#24]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 9:53am

Riedel SHOULD be slapped. The way it was written was intended to mislead. Read the WHOLE THING TomasMarx. It IS true that someone is doubling JLY, but its for affect. They actually say it in the show (that they are going to double Frankie Valli to make his voice pop) and on John Lloyd Young's blog (which someone cut and pasted elsewhere in this thread).

So...he DOES sing all the high notes AND they DO double his voice to replicate the "Four Seasons sound".

[best12bars]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 10:51am

John Lloyd Young = Milli Vanilli?

By the way... that's B.S. about needing extra voices in the wings to help create a "doubled" sound. Anyone can do that very easily with a simple microphone effect.

Updated On: 4/15/06 at 10:51 AM

[best12bars]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 11:19am

"You haven't seen the show, you don't know."

This comes from someone who comments regularly on Drowsy and Bob Martin's performance, even though she saw a very early, rough completely unfinished version without the entire last part of the show.

Such hypocrisy! Save your breath.

Updated On: 4/15/06 at 11:19 AM

[best12bars]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 11:40am

I'm gonna play Cassie next year in A Chorus Line, but I'll have a "Dream Cassie" do the dancing for me, because that's the way they did it in "Oklahoma!"

Maybe I can win a Tony for THAT.

I'm not discounting JLY's chances for the award. I'm just calling a spade a spade.

*waits for dd to get the last word in*

Updated On: 4/15/06 at 11:40 AM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 12:25pm

Hawker, thanks for the links to the clips, they were really fun to watch.

I particularly loved Paul Shaffer going on and on and on about how JERSEY BOYS isn't a "jukebox musical" with no explanation of what that means for the 99.5% of his audience that wouldn't have any idea of what he was talking about. That was funny. Back in the day when that was all that was working against the show, Paul stepped in to save the day!

I wish people didn't get so invested in things like ridiculous awards. Of course they're political, of course people behave badly. And Reidel? Come on! He's a twerp. However, how is what he does different from the person who speculated that two other actor's publicists planted the story any morally different?

DD, I always loved reading your posts because they could be as bitchy as Reidel is 24/7. It's fun to see this change in your character (something your namesake didn't do, even by the end of the movie!). It's enough to give somebody the notion that you're one of the show's investors!

[ljay889]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 12:39pm

DD, I always loved reading your posts because they could be as bitchy as Reidel is 24/7. It's fun to see this change in your character (something your namesake didn't do, even by the end of the movie!). It's enough to give somebody the notion that you're one of the show's investors!

-- Love this. So true.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 1:07pm

Never about actors? I'm not sure that's exactly true but I certainly wouldn't bet the house on it! But do you have an investment in Jersey Boys?!

[Phantom2]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 5:21pm

I think JLY explained everything nicely on his official blog.

Updated On: 4/15/06 at 05:21 PM

[Al Dente]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 5:49pm

There are no mic tricks that make a voice sound "doubled".

[bostonbroadwayfan]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 6:15pm

To steal a line:

Like the bunny on TV with the Battery this thread keeps going and going and going.

I wonder what JLY thinks of all this.

[erikaamato]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 6:16pm

Just dropping in to expand on Al Dente's statement. (I.e., there are no mic effects that make a voice sound doubled.) There are effects you can use - delay or reverb or a chorus effect - but for the doubling effect they're talking about, you really need to lay down another vocal. Meaning, in recording, often a lead singer will lay down a second track of their lead vocal for this effect. The Four Seasons were pioneers in this technique, but it is super common today. (My band has used it from time to time - specifically for the bigger, rockier numbers, to add a certain "thickness" to the voice.) For live performance, there is a way to double the voice with an effct, but it always ends up sounding processed and weird. Mechanized. The best way to achieve the doubling effect live would be either to sing along with a pre-recorded track of oneself (and can you imagine the outrage if that was the path they'd chosen?) or to do what they're doing. Have another singer double you live offstage.


P.S. In my band, I've never been doubled live on stage, but we're not trying to reproduce a signature sound. We happen to like our live shows to sound different than our recordings. =) Updated On: 4/15/06 at 06:16 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 6:40pm

I usually go for the burlier, brawnier type of fella myself, but there's something terribly cute about JLY in those clips. When you factor in the adorable sibilance during "You're just too good to be true..." I have to ask the classic DL question, who's his BF? Anybody know?

[Phantom2]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 6:55pm

You people are worse than Riedel.

[YankeeGal#24]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 7:01pm

What a thorough, thoughtful post/explanation erikaamato. Makes perfect sense. That should put any question to rest--but unfortunately it probably won't.

[Corine2]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 7:27pm

I met his gf. She is a tall, gorgeous blonde and they look very happy together.
Lay off of John or else. He looks happy.
Updated On: 4/15/06 at 07:27 PM

[erikaamato]

Posted: 4/15/06 at 7:38pm

Thanks, YankeeGal! I do what I can.