KATRINA WAS ROBBED!!!!!!!!- Page 3

[ljay889]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 12:23pm

Patti knew what she was doing here. I love it! https://twitter.com/mrdavidgordon/status/1523697870783746049?s=21&t=3P_yHlLar22YsFt_5mwzcw

[ashley0139]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 12:34pm

ljay889 said: "Patti knew what she was doing here. I love it!https://twitter.com/mrdavidgordon/status/1523697870783746049?s=21&t=3P_yHlLar22YsFt_5mwzcw"

Good for her.

[Ftworthguy]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 1:20pm

For me, it's the role.   Bobbi/Bobby, is a bystander.  The action happens to, and around, them.  I think that's why Raul didn't win for the last revival.   The role has never won a Tony and in the 1995 revival Bobby wasn't nominated either.   

[helvizz]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 3:04pm

YvanEhtNioj said: "What did the critics think of her performance? I remember it being pretty polarizing among us on the board"

I think that's why she wasn't nominated - she has always divided opinions with her portrayal of Bobbie because of her vocals. No matter how much she has improved, she still can't handle the score, which is a shame because the role has two beautiful solos. I do think that's what stopped her getting a nomination, because acting-wise she's been stellar since the beginning.

Still, she already has her Best Actress in a Musical Tony, so I'm sure she's fine.

Updated On: 5/9/22 at 03:04 PM

[ElephantLoveMedley]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 3:31pm

helvizz said: "No matter how much she has improved, she still can't handle the score"

This isn't true. She's singing the role as written and beautifully.

[ashley0139]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 3:35pm

ElephantLoveMedley said: "helvizz said: "No matter how much she has improved, she still can't handle the score"

This isn't true. She's singing the role as written and beautifully."

Sondheim loved her and the way she sang his music. She just doesn't belt it like Elphaba, that's okay. I think her singing of the score is gorgeous.

It's really amazing how polarizing she is in this role. People either think she's doing the best performance they've ever seen (me) or they hate her and think she's completely miscast and just don't get what she's doing. Really interesting.

[White_Lotus]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 3:41pm

i was really taken with her performance the night i saw her.

she was exemplary.

[RippedMan]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 4:42pm

Between this and Beanie - we want singers that can sing the score. 

(I'll give Lenk a pass as I saw her in March 2020, so a lot of room for improvement) 

[joshdog2014]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 4:50pm

The evolution of her performance should definitely be a large part of this discussion. I assume a lot of the nominators saw the show around opening? I saw it in its first week of previews and didn’t think she deserved a nomination, then saw it again at the end of February and had her in my top 3 for the category. Her performance has certainly grown a lot, and nominators can’t be expected to vote on something other than what they saw. A snub for sure, but I always thought of it as the most likely snub

I also have to throw my agreement in on the Kimber Elayne Sprawl love. I’m happy for Jeannette Bayardelle but would’ve much rather have had Kimber get the spot

Updated On: 5/9/22 at 04:50 PM

[Rudy2]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 5:05pm

I think she richly deserved it, and I am also disappointed.

I caution those who say other performances from women in the show are better to remember that the leading role is much more general and less of a “character.” Someone here said Bobbie is a cypher - I don’t know that I’d go that far, but they had a point. Absolutely.

It’s much harder to make this character interesting until the final number, where ambivalence gives over to revelation, as opposed to making Joanne or Sarah interesting.


There are definitely choices Katrina makes that to me feel more evolved and mapped out than what I saw Nikki do as her understudy. Still, Nikki was a more believable and root-for-able Bobbie somehow, in my eyes. I am beyond thrilled that I saw her do it. If audience identification is a factor - and of course, it is - then perhaps that played a role. Whereas NRD is entirely believable as a folksy single gal who all these people are friends with, Katrina comes off a touch patrician, though certainly not remote. That’s a matter of casting.

I think both ladies are wonderful, and yes, I’m sorry Katrina didn’t get the nomination. Her renditions of “Being Alive,” “Someone is Waiting” and “Marry Me a Little” are absolutely superb.

I truly think it’s hard to make this character much more than a filter for the material, to be played upon by the other characters. Still, it’s arguably the musical theater role of a lifetime.

 

 

Updated On: 5/9/22 at 05:05 PM

[Rudy2]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 5:14pm

bwayphreak234 said: "Lenk's omission is egregious and unforgivable. She gave one of the best performances I have ever seen in my entire life."

Thank you!

[fosterfan2]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 5:25pm

ashley0139 said: "I'm in shock and absolutely devastated."

So am I. What bad news to come home to from work. I'm pissed. And how on earth can anyone compare Katrina to Beanie Feldstein?

 

Updated On: 5/9/22 at 05:25 PM

[Deedee23]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 6:17pm

RippedMan said: "Between this and Beanie - we want singers that can sing the score."

You did NOT just compare Katrina to Beanie. Yes, Katrina doesn't belt the role but she (at the very least on a technical level) sings the right notes and is the right key.

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 6:20pm

RippedMan said: "Between this and Beanie - we want singers that can sing the score."

 

Just a really DUMB comment.

 

[Phillytheatreguy10]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 6:24pm

Katrina and Beanie are not the same, one has technical ability and has grown the other had nothing to grow on. Also, the notion of “singing the score” is getting old with Katrina- she’s not a Tenor which is the vocal type the score was written for, they could’ve pitched it anywhere in the female voice, but it’s not her fault they orchestrated it where they did. Katrina was truly the only head scratcher of the morning for me- I wasn’t even that shocked by the Paradise Square nominations, aside from the Producer there is a lot of talent and merit to that show. With regard to Funny Girl in general, this was the first revival in 60 years of a widely recognized title and the Producers really fumbled the ball and this is what the outcome is. I don’t which anyone to be jobless, but I don’t see this lasting beyond whatever advance it has at this point. No actress will want to touch this and even if it’s a Broadway name and not a Hollywood star, it’s not enough to sell a production without any Tony nominations or sterling reviews- it’s a flop. 

[soxboy22]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 6:50pm

ashley0139 said: "ljay889 said: "Patti knew what she was doing here. I love it!https://twitter.com/mrdavidgordon/status/1523697870783746049?s=21&t=3P_yHlLar22YsFt_5mwzcw"

Good for her."

Agreed, but I did chuckle at the tweet that said Patti should pull a Julie Andrews. :)

 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 7:28pm

Phillytheatreguy10 said: "Katrina and Beanie are not the same, one has technical ability and has grown the other had nothing to grow on. Also, the notion of “singing the score” is getting old with Katrina- she’s not a Tenor which is the vocal type the score was written for, they could’ve pitched it anywhere in the female voice, but it’s not her fault they orchestrated it where they did. Katrina was truly the only head scratcher of the morning for me- I wasn’t even that shocked by the Paradise Square nominations, aside from the Producer there is a lot of talent and merit to that show. With regard to Funny Girl in general, this was the first revival in 60 years of a widely recognized title and the Producers really fumbled the ball and this is what the outcome is. I don’t which anyone to be jobless, but I don’t see this lasting beyond whatever advance it has at this point. No actress will want to touch this and even if it’s a Broadway name and not a Hollywood star, it’s not enough to sell a production without any Tony nominations or sterling reviews- it’s a flop."

I mean, I'm pretty sure Lenk had control over what keys/placement the songs were in? Like I said, perhaps she has grown. But when I saw it it was awkward and felt out of her range. I liked her acting and overall vibe though. 

[rg7759]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 8:48pm

If your understudy is better than u, you're probably not getting a nomination. Kat also struggled at the taped Lincoln Center Philharmonic. Just because you saw Katrina doesn't mean she was robbed, it means you are small and the world is big. Perhaps each of the other nominees were in fact better. Though I didn't see every show. I'm happy with the noms and will give psquares a chance

[ashley0139]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 9:05pm

rg7759 said: "If your understudy is better than u, you're probably not getting a nomination. Kat also struggled at the taped Lincoln Center Philharmonic. Just because you saw Katrina doesn't mean she was robbed, it means you are small and the world is big. Perhaps each of the other nominees were in fact better. Though I didn't see every show. I'm happy with the noms and will give psquares a chance"

Uhhhh what? I have seen hundreds of Broadway performances over the years, and most of the nominees in this year's category. Katrina's performance is still by far my favorite. Ever. So yes I can say I think she was robbed.

[rg7759]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 9:24pm

That's great for u. Then you should know my comment isn't meant for u. It's for the many people who are biased only by what they did see. Which is probably related to thinking every online comment applies to them

[ljay889]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 9:42pm

I know this is an opinion based forum, but I don’t get what trying to argue with Lenk fans is getting some of you. We have every right to feel how we do today. 

[Dollypop]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 9:51pm

I saw the show shortly after the new year and found Katrina to be an absolute cipher on stage. Lackluster singing and the face of a department store mannequin--it was kinda eerie.

I'm glad to hear she's grown in the part but if the nominating committee saw the show around the time I did, I can readily understand why she was passed over.

[helvizz]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 10:04pm

ashley0139 said: "ElephantLoveMedley said: "helvizz said: "No matter how much she has improved, she still can't handle the score"

This isn't true. She's singing the role as written and beautifully."

Sondheim loved her and the way she sang his music. She just doesn't belt it like Elphaba, that's okay. I think her singing of the score is gorgeous.

It's really amazing how polarizing she is in this role. People either think she's doing the best performance they've ever seen (me) or they hate her and think she's completely miscast and just don't get what she's doing. Really interesting."

I wouldn't say people hate her, because I've yet to see a single person say her acting choices didn't work, but that people dislike her singing and it affects her performance because Bobby(ie) has some beautiful songs. And that's why she didn't get the Tony nom, she was polarizing, so she lost votes. I don't even think that's necessarily miscasting, that's just how it is sometimes. I mean, my profile picture on here is Harvey Fierstein in La Cage, and he couldn't sing that score at all, and yet he still gave a brilliant performance. Was his performance pleasant to my ears? No. But would I say he was miscast? Absolutely not.

[helvizz]

Posted: 5/9/22 at 10:14pm

Phillytheatreguy10 said: "Katrina and Beanie are not the same, one has technical ability and has grown the other had nothing to grow on. Also, the notion of “singing the score” is getting old with Katrina- she’s not a Tenor which is the vocal type the score was written for, they could’ve pitched it anywhere in the female voice, but it’s not her fault they orchestrated it where they did. Katrina was truly the only head scratcher of the morning for me- I wasn’t even that shocked by the Paradise Square nominations, aside from the Producer there is a lot of talent and merit to that show. With regard to Funny Girl in general, this was the first revival in 60 years of a widely recognized title and the Producers really fumbled the ball and this is what the outcome is. I don’t which anyone to be jobless, but I don’t see this lasting beyond whatever advance it has at this point. No actress will want to touch this and even if it’s a Broadway name and not a Hollywood star, it’s not enough to sell a production without any Tony nominations or sterling reviews- it’s a flop."

"Also, the notion of “singing the score” is getting old with Katrina- she’s not a Tenor which is the vocal type the score was written for, they could’ve pitched it anywhere in the female voice, but it’s not her fault they orchestrated it where they did." It isn't her fault, but it clearly affects her performance. That would be like having Elphaba sing Defying Gravity without flying. It's not her fault that it happened, but she is not gonna shine as brightly in her big moment

 

Updated On: 5/9/22 at 10:14 PM

[Bill Snibson]

Posted: 5/10/22 at 12:48am

OffOnBwayHi said: "LOL!

This thread is hilarious. The right choices were nominated, babes.

No one was robbed...except maybe Kimber Sprawl and Laurence Fishburne. Now those were EXTRAORDINARY performances that deserve some recognition."

You’re fully aware of the level of hypocrisy in your comment, right? Just making sure.