KPOP Sets December 11 Closing Date on Broadway- Page 2

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 12/6/22 at 11:14pm

BoringBoredBoard40 said: "nominators got in, voters are another question"

Meaning: if it gets nominated for anything, those categories will be decided entirely by the few voters who actually saw the show.

[BroadwayNYC2]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 12:01am

The producers made baffling decisions from day one. Sorry to hear it’s closing, but let’s not try to make up any other excuses as to why it’s shuttering early. 

[Wick3]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 12:18am

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Some salt in the wound to this team –– and a terrific response from the NYT:

"We saw the open letter written about The Times's review of KPOP and quickly convened a discussion among editors and members of our standards department. This group was in agreement that Jesse's review was fair. More importantly, we wholly disagree with the argument that Jesse's criticism is somehow racist. We always welcome feedback and reaction to our journalism, and have conveyed a similar reply to the producers who wrote the open letter.""

I’m curious if anyone in the NYT editors/standards team is of Asian descent and completely agree with the statement above. 
I didn’t think this was a terrific response at all.
 

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 12:35am

I think the response was fine. Greene was not being racist and he was not criticizing the music, he was describing it.

I think there is going to have to come a time when people get triggered and offended, those who are accused and are not doing what they are accused of should stand up for and defend themselves and let that be that. (And I think that is what the Times is doing in this case) The show got a bad review from the Times which didn't cause them to have to close the show. Maybe they should turn to their PR/Advertising people and find out what went wrong in promoting the show since it was not selling well before this review came out. Just my thoughts.

[PipingHotPiccolo]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 12:41am

@Wick3: Various self-identified Asian-Americans have posted *on these boards* about the issue, but since they reject your accusations of racism, you just totally discount them (while assuming the racial makeup of everyone else commenting-- quick, whats mine?).

 

Your insistence that Asian Americans agree with you--and are being left out a conversation they are participating in, including AT the Times-- is more offensive than anything Green wrote.

[JuneJune]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 12:56am

Sad but unsurprised. I love this show but we all saw it coming.

 

The only thing that caught me off-guard was the 5 day warning. Is that typical with show closings? I've only been a theater fan for a handful of years and can't recall another production giving such short notice.

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 1:44am

In my circles, which include both AAPIs and non-AAPIs, everyone has sided with the company of KPOP. While I have no interest in bringing back a debate where no one is budging, there are people who see that side of the story. They’ve voiced it here, but not as loudly as others who have a differing view.

Asians are not a monolith, and the way racism is viewed within the AAPI community is complicated and nuanced. Actually, that nuance was more evident in earlier versions of KPOP (like in the particularly chilling scene where one of the girls was consulting about eyelid surgery).

No one is surprised why this is closing. Many factors are to blame, and a divisive review is not the sole reason. It’s tragic that it’s closing so soon after its opening.

I’ve seen the hashtag #savekpopbroadway being used by the company, urging some big-pocket investors to step up and chip in. I bet it’s too little, too late to save this show. At least we can look forward to one incredible cast album.

I’ll be there on Sunday to cheer on this show. I bet it will be an electric performance.

[Wick3]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 1:46am

PipingHotPiccolo said: "@Wick3: Various self-identified Asian-Americans have posted *on these boards* about the issue, but since they reject your accusations of racism, you just totally discount them (while assuming the racial makeup of everyone else commenting-- quick, whats mine?).



Your insistence that Asian Americans agree with you--and are being left out a conversation they are participating in, including AT the Times-- is more offensive than anything Green wrote."

Insistence?!? What are you talking about? Please check all my comment history on BWW since the review was published on 11/27. 

[DrMonicaDeMoneco]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 2:26am

JuneJune said: "Sad but unsurprised. I love this show but we all saw it coming.



The only thing that caught me off-guard was the 5 day warning. Is that typical with show closings? I've only been a theater fan for a handful of years and can't recall another production giving such short notice.
 

A weeks notice is the minimum the producers have to give. 

[Fan123]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 5:47am

It's interesting that the final performance "will be a special event featuring a panel discussion that will celebrate and reflect on AAPI representation on the Broadway stage. Panelists include David Henry Hwang, the first Asian American playwright to win a Tony; KPOP's own Helen Park, the first Asian female composer on Broadway; Korean playwright Hansol Jung; and Pun Bandhu of the Asian American Performers Action Coalition." Will anyone here be attending?

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 8:32am

I’ll be there. I saw that about the panel and I’m excited about it.

[chrishuyen]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 11:58am

I had gotten a ticket for the closing yesterday (not through Telecharge) and received an email today that the performance was cancelled.  Not sure if the text of the email was just a template, but checking Telecharge shows that only a few $200+ seats are left, so did they take it off sale completely?  I know there's 200 seats being distributed but I'm wondering if anyone else had a similar experience or knows if it'll be an invite-only sort of event or something.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 12:26pm

DrMonicaDeMoneco said: "The only thing that caught me off-guard was the 5 day warning. Is that typical with show closings? I've only been a theater fan for a handful of years and can't recall another production giving such short notice.

A weeks notice is the minimum the producers have to give."

Two points here. First, the requirement is a week (minimum-one's contract can specify more), but it relates to pay not notice. You can cease performances on no notice. Second, a notice given before the first show of a week (in this case Tuesday night) is deemed notice for the week. 

[SisterGeorge]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 12:40pm

In the words of my favorite lyricist: "Knowing when to leave may be the smartest thing anyone can learn."

I'm not including the line that precedes it for obvious reasons: "Go while the going is good."

Nor the one that follows it because that would just be rude: "Go!"

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 12:51pm

chrishuyen said: "I had gotten a ticket for the closing yesterday (not through Telecharge) and received an email today that the performance was cancelled. Not sure if the text of the email was just a template, but checking Telecharge shows that only a few $200+ seats are left, so did they take it off sale completely? I know there's 200 seats being distributed but I'm wondering if anyone else had a similar experience or knows if it'll be an invite-only sort of event or something."

I ordered via Telecharge. I didn’t get an email saying the performance was canceled. Can you call and find out? I hope you get it worked out.

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 1:54pm

HogansHero said: "DrMonicaDeMoneco said: "The only thing that caught me off-guard was the 5 day warning. Is that typical with show closings? I've only been a theater fan for a handful of years and can't recall another production giving such short notice.

A weeks notice is the minimum the producers have to give."

Two points here. First, the requirement is a week (minimum-one's contract can specify more), but it relates to pay not notice. You can cease performances on no notice. Second, a notice given before the first show of a week (in this case Tuesday night) is deemed notice for the week."

I really need to do more reading about how things like this work because I find it so interesting...any book recommendations? Or is this just general industry knowledge?

[labellaragazza1]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 2:21pm

I'll be there. Bought tix as soon as the closing notice went out. 

They had just started papering a bit, so I believe they're cancelling those tickets since demand has increased so much,. It's not the performance that's been cancelled

[chrishuyen]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 3:21pm

Ah yeah that makes sense.  I figured the performance was still going on, though I'd love to be able to get a ticket for <$200.  I wonder if they'd still do rush that morning

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 4:56pm

I heard that they have invited Tony voters to the show over the past couple weeks, meaning it will still likely meet eligibility.

[Phillyguy]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 5:48pm

HeyMrMusic said: "I heard that they have invited Tony voters to the show over the past couple weeks, meaning it will still likely meet eligibility."

How does that work? What’s the eligibility requirement? 

[NativeNYer2]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 5:56pm

What do people think are the show’s chances of a Choreogeaphy Tony?

Is it eligible for anything at Drama Desks?

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 5:57pm

NativeNYer2 said: "What do people think are the show’s chances of a Choreogeaphy Tony?

Is it eligible for anything at Drama Desks? "


It’s not going to win anything.

[quizking101]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 6:14pm

This morning, tonight was barely sold. Checking the map now and it’s nearly sold out

[blaxx]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 7:14pm

hearthemsing22 said: "HogansHero said: "DrMonicaDeMoneco said: "The only thing that caught me off-guard was the 5 day warning. Is that typical with show closings? I've only been a theater fan for a handful of years and can't recall another production giving such short notice.

A weeks notice is the minimum the producers have to give."

Two points here. First, the requirement is a week (minimum-one's contract can specify more), but it relates to pay not notice. You can cease performances on no notice. Second, a notice given before the first show of a week (in this case Tuesday night) is deemed notice for the week."

I really need to do more reading about how things like this work because I find it so interesting...any book recommendations? Or is this just general industry knowledge?"

It is contractual. A producer can close at any time, at intermission if needed. They still need to pay for the week, but they can close anytime.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 12/7/22 at 8:10pm

hearthemsing22 said: "I really need to do more reading about how things like this work because I find it so interesting...any book recommendations? Or is this just general industry knowledge?"

There are books but I think the best starting point is the contract itself. For whatever reason they have hidden the current contract but the preceding one is online here and I am pretty sure it is unchanged. What you want to look at is Rule 69(A)(5). Then you can frolic in the rest of it

Regarding books, maybe someone else can give you something current. The last one I recall looking at was a long time ago (as in not this century lol) and it was Donald Farber's book. Maybe it has been updated, I have no idea.

Updated On: 12/7/22 at 08:10 PM