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#1

Longest Runs That Never Recouped

So, I got a question and need the help of experts. Figured, this is the right place :)

Which musicals come to mind that ran for a long, long time and still did not recoup in the end due to high running costs or other reasons (are there other reasons?).

Thanks very much in advance!



#2

Longest Runs That Never Recouped

THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE and JEKYLL & HYDE are two that come to mind. MILLIE didn’t even do it with the Best Musical win.
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#5

Longest Runs That Never Recouped

Obviously, SPIDER-MAN: TURN OFF THE DARK is the most immediate example.


"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
#6

Longest Runs That Never Recouped

is the data on recouping and ultimately profit or loss from musicals reported publicly anywhere or is this limited to industry insides and actual investors in a project?

Does anyone know for example how much allegience lost?

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Longest Runs That Never Recouped

Spider-Man did not run anywhere near long enough to qualify.

There is no central place to get recoupment info. Some shows announce it, some don't, and some that do not recoup we learn informally as to the extent of the loss.

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Longest Runs That Never Recouped

HogansHero said: "Spider-Man did not run anywhere near long enough to qualify.

There is no central place to get recoupment info. Some shows announce it, some don't, and some that do not recoup we learn informally as to the extent of the loss.
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It ran over a thousand performances, which was more than millie at least.


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#12

Longest Runs That Never Recouped

Though it only ran a bit over two years, The Scarlet Pimpernel went through a major rewrite/restructuring during its run, only to then close for another five months, go through more rewrites, and reopen in another theatre for an additional two months. I can only assume that every single cent of that investment was lost.

#14

Longest Runs That Never Recouped

Another thousand plus: Shenandoah.

Did Memphis return its investment while on Broadway? Ever?

#16

Longest Runs That Never Recouped

BroadwayNYC2 said: "Rock of Ages never recouped, right?"

This was a joke...right? RIGHT?

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Longest Runs That Never Recouped

I'm surprised Rock of Ages never went back to New World Stages.

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Longest Runs That Never Recouped

TNick926 said: "Original production of La Cage did not recoup. Nor did Woman of the Year."

Re La Cage, that is ABSOLUTELY incorrect. I do not think either revival returned their investment; however, the original provided an excellent return for backers.

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Longest Runs That Never Recouped

Sunset Boulevard never fully recouped. The 2017 revival got much closer to recoupment than the original run, but never quite hit the mark
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Longest Runs That Never Recouped

Willie4316 said: "Sunset Boulevard never fully recouped. The 2017 revival got much closer to recoupment than the original run, but never quite hit the mark"

I wonder if the original 1994 production would have recouped had he not had to pay out $1M to Lupone for breaching their contract. I believe he had to pay her an additional settlement which matched what he paid Glenn Close for the duration of her run, didn't he?

So if you put this all back into the revenue, the musical probably would have come out ahead.

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Longest Runs That Never Recouped

I believe "Victor / Victoria" also qualifies as a long run which never recouped.

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Longest Runs That Never Recouped

Call_me_jorge said: "It ran over a thousand performances, which was more than millie at least."

Correct but "did not run anywhere near long enough to qualify."

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Longest Runs That Never Recouped

GreenGables said: "BroadwayNYC2 said: "Rock of Ages never recouped, right?"

This was a joke...right? RIGHT?
"

No, the song royalties prohibited recoupment.

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