Marin Mazzie Is Still In Carrie? Sad Day...- Page 5

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/11/10 at 10:37pm

"The Mother/Daughter songs are superb."

This is where I come by the opinion that you are prone to hyperbole.

[ZiggyCringe]

Posted: 11/11/10 at 11:26pm

"Why? I've said it once, I've said it again: it wasn't meant to be musicalized."

Hey Romgit, I totally disagree with you on this point.

This story is a total natural for a musical. Carrie White can't speak to her high school bullies, she can't defend herself, the only thing she has is telekinesis. She's kind of a Helen Keller, except her only outlet is pyrotechnic emotion. It's like singing, when you think about it. The reason for singing in a musical is you cannot express your emotions any other way than but bursting out in song. Isn't Carrie White the perfect character to do this?

Maybe there's a way to equate the telekenisis with the singing, so during the prom scene, she sings her enemies all to death. I don't know, I'm not writing it. But I think the impetus is there. There's a good story here, and there's a lot of good work already written. I hope Pitchford and Gore keep working on it.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/11/10 at 11:33pm

If somebody can't speak, is kind of like a Helen Keller, the LAST way she would express herself is by bursting into song. It just doesn't fit into the equation.

I would just like to point out that your fixer for the fact that the last scene is unstageable, "she sings her enemies to death," proves the point. But it would be hilarious and I would try to get a ticket to it.

Updated On: 11/11/10 at 11:33 PM

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 11/11/10 at 11:42pm

I almost wish that the story had been adapted into a true opera as opposed to 80's pop-opera. The heightened emotions and grand finale would seem a lot less out of place in an opera house. Medea, Salome, Elektra, Lulu, Norma, Lucia di Lammermoor, Carmen, Tosca, the list of murders and atrocities committed on the great stages of the world's opera houses is endless, and the audiences accept it without thinking twice.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 11/11/10 at 11:44pm

The reason for singing in a musical is you cannot express your emotions any other way than but bursting out in song. Isn't Carrie White the perfect character to do this?

I dunno. I always thought it was kinda funny that she was completely traumatized by the events of the locker room and then manages to blare out a treacly power ballad five minutes later.

For what it's worth, I DO think the mother/daughter stuff is kind of brilliant. But I fully admit that the lines between camp and quality kind of blur in my head.

The singing her enemies to death idea does sound pretty good, though.

Updated On: 11/11/10 at 11:44 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 12:03am

One doesn't SING one's enemies to death.

One dances one's enemies to death.

The most appropriate musicalization of the gymnasium apocalypse would be a Dream Ballet.

[tourboi]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 4:51am

Anyone who thinks the Margaret songs weren't as good until Buckley sang them needs to take a listen to the original workshop. McGovern (my favorite Margaret, even (yes) above Buckley) is fierceness personified. Her "I Remember" is shiver-inducing.

It just so happens that when Cook played Margaret you LOST that intensity because her voice sounded too "pretty". Buckley returned the songs to their original flare, if you ask me. With Mazzie, it's a step backward to Cook land.

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 8:12am

Say what you want Namo (you always do), but MY opinion and it would seem many others as well is that the Mother/Daughter moments are great.

As for a girl who barely speaks bursting out in to song?
People in the war bursting in to song, slitting throats bursting in to song, having a breakdown bursting in to song, CATS bursting in to song, lets not make it sound that because Carrie is withdrawn and bursts in to song that its any different from all other musicals shall we.

As for Mrs White. Cook was awful and lazy in her performance, she was so miscast. Buckley throw herself in to that role and brought the songs and Linzi to a whole new level. McGovern was very good as well.

Mazzie lacks the belt in her voice on the workshop recording to really put an audience on edge as Buckley did. Hopefully though that will change.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 9:25am

I think they're good. I think they're the strongest in the show. I think they can be performed thrillingly. I do not think they're superb.

"Say what you want Namo (you always do)"

Was that supposed to sting?

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 9:48am

nope, not at all, you know yourself you always like to be the loudest voice on the board lol

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 9:55am

Not really, no.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 10:02am

"One doesn't SING one's enemies to death. One dances one's enemies to death."

Does one?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 10:06am

How about this? In a thrilling final aria, Carrie "sings" red shoes onto the feet of her enemies. They tap dance so hard and for so long, the gym collapses upon them.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 10:55am

Forgive the hyperbole, but this

"She's kind of a Helen Keller, except her only outlet is pyrotechnic emotion."

Is my favorite sentence ever written.

Not just on BroadwayWorld.

Ever.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 11:32am

Come to think of it, I think The Miracle Worker screams out to be musicalized.

And by screams out I means spelled out on one's palm.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 11:51am

"She Can't Hear And She Can't Speak, But Boy Can That Girl Dance!"

"I Say Tomato And You Say 'UUNGH'..."

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 11:55am

That's because it's also true of you, Robbie.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 11:59am

Don't make me get the hose...with my mind.

[whatacharacter]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 12:02pm

Would love to hear Carolee Carmello's take on Mrs. White! Or how about Liz McCartney? She fits King's vision of Margaret. While I think Marin is capable, she's a bit too vanilla vocally for me.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 12:22pm

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103959/the-play-begins

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 12:28pm

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103961/revenge-is-sweet

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 12:33pm

Phyllis, I was thinking the same thing.

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 12:42pm

I think "Sybill" is overdue for musicalization.

"And It Was Purple" could be a real showstopper.

I wonder if they can get the rights to the "New World Symphony".

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 1:14pm

"Sybil!" (with the exclamation point!) would be GREAT!

I can just hear her tour de force power ballad: "ThePeople! ThePeople! ThePeople!"

[Calvin]

Posted: 11/12/10 at 1:23pm

The first act finally should be a One Day More-style piece, with holograms of Vicky, Peggy, Marsha, Mary et al all singing in counterpoint.