#26
Posted: 10/4/04 at 2:25pm
Why, Temptation, of course. Just joshin' 
Most Under-rated movie musical? — Page 2
#27
Posted: 10/4/04 at 4:27pm
dont kill me, but i thought the version of The Music Man with Matthew Broderick and Kristin Chenoweth was good. Much better than it was made out to be.
#28
Posted: 10/4/04 at 5:31pm
Newsies all the way baby!
If animation counts, I think Prince of Egypt is an amazingly beautiful and moving movie that gets little credit.
That and Anastasia NEED to be broadway shows man!
Ummm...whoever said Hair...I don't think that should count because it's like, 90% DIFFERENT, 10% the same as the musical itself, lol.
I know most of them are, but Hair is like...it's more realistic to say "there's this movie that happens to have the same name, a couple of the same songs, and some characters with the same names as the musical" than to say "based on the musical".
Just throwin' that out there. :)
If animation counts, I think Prince of Egypt is an amazingly beautiful and moving movie that gets little credit.
That and Anastasia NEED to be broadway shows man!
Ummm...whoever said Hair...I don't think that should count because it's like, 90% DIFFERENT, 10% the same as the musical itself, lol.
I know most of them are, but Hair is like...it's more realistic to say "there's this movie that happens to have the same name, a couple of the same songs, and some characters with the same names as the musical" than to say "based on the musical".
Just throwin' that out there. :)
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#29
Posted: 10/4/04 at 5:35pm
I have to go with Newsies.
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#30
Posted: 10/4/04 at 6:46pm
Hello Dolly is not bad. Whatever happened to EJ Peaker?
I also like (ducks and flinches) Bye, Bye Birdie. If only because of Ann Magaret va va vooming through the title song and Dick Van Dyke from the original cast. (and RIP a miscast Janet Leigh)
I also like (ducks and flinches) Bye, Bye Birdie. If only because of Ann Magaret va va vooming through the title song and Dick Van Dyke from the original cast. (and RIP a miscast Janet Leigh)
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#31
Posted: 10/4/04 at 9:28pm
Cry Baby, Evita, and Newsies.
"The stage is where I live and come alive and act out all the things that go on in my life. It's not just what I do for a living, it's my shrink and my love affair. No one in my life has ever or ever will kiss me on the mouth like this lover called my relationship with my performance."
#32
Posted: 10/5/04 at 12:16am
Evita and Newsies (Although I love Babes in Arms with Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney)
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#33
Posted: 10/5/04 at 10:39am
Hello Dolly and Slipper and the Rose (delightful libretto).
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Updated On: 10/5/04 at 10:39 AM
#34
Posted: 10/5/04 at 11:30am
Two HUGE thumbs up for Cry Baby! Yes yes yes!
Also Victor/Victoria...that's one of my favorites :)
Also Victor/Victoria...that's one of my favorites :)
#35
Posted: 10/5/04 at 12:23pm
--CRY BABY
--PENNIES FROM HEAVEN (yes, I know the mini-series is better, but still, this was one of the great films of the eighties)
--IT'S ALWAYS FAIR WEATHER (Gene Kelly flop, but I like it better than ON THE TOWN. Dan Dailey should have gotten an Oscar nomination, Dolores Gray too! A must see!)
--LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...THE FABULOUS STAINS (Lost rock and roll film from the early eighties with a young Diane Lane and Laura Dern as members of an all-girl punk band.)
--PENNIES FROM HEAVEN (yes, I know the mini-series is better, but still, this was one of the great films of the eighties)
--IT'S ALWAYS FAIR WEATHER (Gene Kelly flop, but I like it better than ON THE TOWN. Dan Dailey should have gotten an Oscar nomination, Dolores Gray too! A must see!)
--LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...THE FABULOUS STAINS (Lost rock and roll film from the early eighties with a young Diane Lane and Laura Dern as members of an all-girl punk band.)
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#36
Posted: 10/7/04 at 8:40am
Hello, Dolly is UNDER-RATED?
1) Barbra Streisand was in her late 20s and played a character in her fifties.
2) Streisand approached every number NOT like a 'Show Tune' but a song that required her own individual interpreation. (Example: 'Before the Parade Passes By' turned from an inspiration song to a patient venting to her therapist.)
3) Walter Matthau, one who never sang a note on key in his life, co-starred.
4) Film made many unnecessary changes to plot which ruined tempo.
5) Opening Song "I Put My Hand In" (funny upbeat opening) was replaced by much more strident "Just Leave Everything To Me."
By the way, Gene Kelly and Streisand HATED each other--disagreed on EVERYTHING from proper attire in the 1890s to filming scheduling.
By the end, Kelly and Streisand weren't speaking and Streisand ultimately had to direct herself. (And you thought YENTL was the first time!) :)
20th Century fox lost A BUNDLE on film and almost had to file for bankruptcy.
A sad, sad story.
Trivial Pursuit: First consideration for role of Dolly Levi in film version was Elizabeth Taylor.
1) Barbra Streisand was in her late 20s and played a character in her fifties.
2) Streisand approached every number NOT like a 'Show Tune' but a song that required her own individual interpreation. (Example: 'Before the Parade Passes By' turned from an inspiration song to a patient venting to her therapist.)
3) Walter Matthau, one who never sang a note on key in his life, co-starred.
4) Film made many unnecessary changes to plot which ruined tempo.
5) Opening Song "I Put My Hand In" (funny upbeat opening) was replaced by much more strident "Just Leave Everything To Me."
By the way, Gene Kelly and Streisand HATED each other--disagreed on EVERYTHING from proper attire in the 1890s to filming scheduling.
By the end, Kelly and Streisand weren't speaking and Streisand ultimately had to direct herself. (And you thought YENTL was the first time!) :)
20th Century fox lost A BUNDLE on film and almost had to file for bankruptcy.
A sad, sad story.
Trivial Pursuit: First consideration for role of Dolly Levi in film version was Elizabeth Taylor.
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#37
Posted: 10/7/04 at 10:59am
I don't mind HELLO, DOLLY as a film. Yes, it's like a big overblown wedding cake of a film dripping with buttercream curlicues, and Streisand is too young and Mae Wests all over the place. In retrospect, the supporting cast is very humdrum (so as not to compete with Barbra?) And Fox' cheesy Deluxe color isn't as stable or luscious as real Technicolor. But it's still very entertaining and and seems like a relic from the 1940s, and I mean that in a good way.
There are lots of underrated musical fims I can think of, but three that first come two mine are two 'little' films from MGM, both from 1953: I LOVE MELVIN with Debbie Reynolds and Donald O'Connor (both fresh from SINGIN' IN THE RAIN), GIVE A GIRL A BREAK (with Reynolds, Bob Fosse AND Gower Champion) and Warner Bros. BLUES IN THE NIGHT (1941) with Richard Whorf, Lloyd Nolan (one of the more underrated actors of the 1940s), Priscilla Lane and Betty Field (with a killer Alen-Mercer score including the title song and 'This Time The Dreams' On Me'). To my annoyance, TCM has not scheduled ANY of them in is 'Mad about Musicals' month.
As TCM also owns the RKO library, I'm sorry they haven't shown some rarities like SHOW BUSINESS (1947) with Eddie Cantor, Joan Davis & Jack Haley, GEORGE WHITE'S SCANDALS of 1945 (1945) wiith Davis , Haley, Gene Krupa and Ethel Smith and SING YOUR WORRIES AWAY (1941) with Bert Lahr, Patsy Kelly, Buddy Ebsen, Sam Levene, Margaret Dumont. I've never seen any of these.
The rare musical I am most curious about is a little 1947 film from Republic called THAT'S MY GAL, the plot of which revolves around two con-men producers who convince a bunch of investors to back a no-chance burleque show then plan to abscond with the money after the show bombs. Naturally the show is a surprise hit.
There are lots of underrated musical fims I can think of, but three that first come two mine are two 'little' films from MGM, both from 1953: I LOVE MELVIN with Debbie Reynolds and Donald O'Connor (both fresh from SINGIN' IN THE RAIN), GIVE A GIRL A BREAK (with Reynolds, Bob Fosse AND Gower Champion) and Warner Bros. BLUES IN THE NIGHT (1941) with Richard Whorf, Lloyd Nolan (one of the more underrated actors of the 1940s), Priscilla Lane and Betty Field (with a killer Alen-Mercer score including the title song and 'This Time The Dreams' On Me'). To my annoyance, TCM has not scheduled ANY of them in is 'Mad about Musicals' month.
As TCM also owns the RKO library, I'm sorry they haven't shown some rarities like SHOW BUSINESS (1947) with Eddie Cantor, Joan Davis & Jack Haley, GEORGE WHITE'S SCANDALS of 1945 (1945) wiith Davis , Haley, Gene Krupa and Ethel Smith and SING YOUR WORRIES AWAY (1941) with Bert Lahr, Patsy Kelly, Buddy Ebsen, Sam Levene, Margaret Dumont. I've never seen any of these.
The rare musical I am most curious about is a little 1947 film from Republic called THAT'S MY GAL, the plot of which revolves around two con-men producers who convince a bunch of investors to back a no-chance burleque show then plan to abscond with the money after the show bombs. Naturally the show is a surprise hit.
"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"
Updated On: 10/7/04 at 10:59 AM
#38
Posted: 10/7/04 at 11:39am
Hey Master... :)
The plot of THAT'S MY GIRL sounds a little too close to comfort to THE PRODUCERS.
Should someone warn Mel Brooks?
The plot of THAT'S MY GIRL sounds a little too close to comfort to THE PRODUCERS.
Should someone warn Mel Brooks?
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#39
Posted: 10/7/04 at 11:48am
Newsies....simple
say the word...and i just might listen...
#40
Posted: 10/8/04 at 2:01pm
Patty Duke in BILLIE?
Oh my, I had forgotten about that one--had to dig out Maltin's Movie Guide.
Per Maltin, "Duke sings, runs and prances--all within 87 minutes!
Oh my, I had forgotten about that one--had to dig out Maltin's Movie Guide.
Per Maltin, "Duke sings, runs and prances--all within 87 minutes!
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#41
Posted: 10/8/04 at 2:06pm
No, scarywarhol, you and Drew Carey's immediate family were the only ones. :)
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#42
Posted: 10/8/04 at 2:09pm
Hey BB,
Did you know that there was a TV Version of Calamity Jane in the 1960s with Carol Burnett?
Unfortunately, it was done live, not taped, so the production is "lost."
But hey, who knows? If they can recapture the original 1957 "live" CINDERELLA, maybe...
Did you know that there was a TV Version of Calamity Jane in the 1960s with Carol Burnett?
Unfortunately, it was done live, not taped, so the production is "lost."
But hey, who knows? If they can recapture the original 1957 "live" CINDERELLA, maybe...
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#43
Posted: 10/8/04 at 2:45pm
Oh, hmmm. I don't know how I feel about that Mary. Doris Day is so perfect in the original it's hard for me to imagine Carol Burnett doing it.
Word. Word, indeed.
Updated On: 10/8/04 at 02:45 PM
#44
Posted: 10/8/04 at 2:53pm
Carol's Jane was a lot "tougher" and of course, not as vocally sound as Doris'. But I still enjoyed production!
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#46
Posted: 10/8/04 at 6:50pm
Newsies, Gepetto, Anistasia(animated), F A N T A S I A 2 0 0 0 ! ! ! ! and Mathew Broderick's Music Man, minus the totally unfunny Victor Garber.
#47
Posted: 10/8/04 at 6:56pm
Matthew Broderick's turn as Harold Hill?
It caused Robert Preston to TURN OVER in his grave!
Broderick had everything the part called for except: energy, timing, ability to sing a ballad, sentiment and "snake oil salesman charm."
Also, he looked so young I thought he was PART of the Boys' Band, not LEADING it! :)
It caused Robert Preston to TURN OVER in his grave!
Broderick had everything the part called for except: energy, timing, ability to sing a ballad, sentiment and "snake oil salesman charm."
Also, he looked so young I thought he was PART of the Boys' Band, not LEADING it! :)
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#48
Posted: 10/10/04 at 6:30pm
Godspell - when you watch it, it is amazing what 10 people in a movie can do. The end made me cry buckets
#49
Posted: 10/10/04 at 8:04pm
Hair - - - got great reviews but did poor box-office.
The Happiest Millionaire - - good Sherman Brothers score. fine showmanship from Tommy Steele. great comedic performances from Gladys Cooper and Geraldine Page. fine singing and good on screen chemistry between Lesley Ann Warren and John Davidson.
The Happiest Millionaire - - good Sherman Brothers score. fine showmanship from Tommy Steele. great comedic performances from Gladys Cooper and Geraldine Page. fine singing and good on screen chemistry between Lesley Ann Warren and John Davidson.
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