PJ... emlodik is an ignoramus anyway. He found it particularly interesting to bring attention to my "bloated face" when I didn't like his superstar. Troll, plain and simple. Let him feel better about his obvious painful life by personally insulting others on this message board. The irony is, his reaction to me is the very same thing that he "hates". Ah, life.
anything you do let it come from you and it will be new.
The rational part of my brain knows that I shouldn't let crazy fans ruin my enjoyment of a show or a performer. But at the same time, the contrarian part of my brain goes nuts when they start insisting that the object of their affection is "perfect" and "flawless", and it immediately has to prove them wrong. Thus, I end up nitpicking and coming up with a bunch of reasons why that show/person isn't actually as great as they think it is. I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks this way, but it's just what happens in my brain.
The presence of a large, vocal, and crazy fan base also makes me kind of nervous to openly express appreciation for something like Wicked, Spring Awakening, etc., because I'm worried that people will think that I'm one of /those/ people. Again, maybe it's stupid to think that way, but that's my thought process.
This seems like an incredibly negative and unnecessary thread. "Fan" has become such a dirty word lately and it's because of people who behave like mental patients and then call themselves "fans" and justify their behavior that way. Real fandom, pure love of someone's talent or a show or a song or what have you, has nothing to do with the "stage door" and exists outside that catty, dramatic, pathetic little world entirely. As a matter of fact, if you get past 18 and still feel the need to hang around for hours on end outside the stage door, I'd say you're the lowest, most shallow kind of "fan" imaginable.
In all honesty, does the act of stagedooring for whatever reason make you an immature person? I don't know if that's the case. It's the "ownership" part that makes it creepy and/or immature. Or the fact that some people feel they are owed that stage door experience by an actor in a show. Fandom is inherently good for the business. From a purely business standpoint, it's what makes a show money. Sure, we all may hate the screaming tweens and overzealous adults at stagedoors. But it is because of a lot of them that box office receipts have grown in record numbers. Granted that doesn't always equate quality shows, and if you ask me there weren't a whole lot of those this past season, but the simple fact is that theatre has become a little more popular than it was, say, 15 years ago. And that's never a bad thing.
anything you do let it come from you and it will be new.
I believe the OP to be the most obnoxious and delusional BWW member.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
^Of course not! I'm referring to the Fangirl Army who threatened to drown me in dulce de leche for exposing them. Not you at all, apologies for any confusion.
As a matter of fact, if you get past 18 and still feel the need to hang around for hours on end outside the stage door, I'd say you're the lowest, most shallow kind of "fan" imaginable.
As in most situations, I'd say it has to do with one's behavior at the stage door. My mother stage-doored when she was in her 50s to meet her once-heartthrob, Robert Morse after the tour of Tru. Nothing low or shallow about that. He autographed her Playbill and gave her a hug and she was swooning. She did the same for Joel Grey the following year. Are all non-stage-dooring adults snobby, insulting, small-minded and pretentious?
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
I'm pretty er...passionate about certain things so I understand most fans of anything enough that they don't irritate me or scare me. Well, unless they're a certain Rent nut who notoriously feigned terminal illness and went as far as receiving attention and sympathy from fellow fans and members of the then-Broadway cast! But that isn't typically a problem, and let's face it, the root of the resulting irritation isn't the fan or the object of the fandom, it's our inability to relate.
So that places self-proclaimed "musical theatre fans" who couldn't tell the difference between a standard, 30-member orchestra and general midi, and don't care to know; and the same people who get up-in-arms over a fan's anger, passion, or dedication and think it's "too much" of a reaction considering this is "just Broadway" and "only a musical," at the top of my list. I just don't understand them, and certainly can't relate, to how they could consider themselves an asset to the theatre community while looking down on people who have the necessary passion that keeps it alive.
May they someday be enlightened and carry on posting passionate diatribes on musical message boards...like me! XD
Recreation of original John Cameron orchestration to "On My Own" by yours truly. Click player below to hear.
A lot of people will faithfully wait hours at stage door, get their Playbill signed and a photo, or a hug if they're lucky like your mom, and go home happy. Others will go multiple times and totally outstay their welcome.
3. There's a difference between "homophobia" and "a reality check." If people feel like behaving like utter caricatures, and I will refer to them as such.
"But your despicable class is dead! Look who they are calling for now!"
Well, unless they're a certain Rent nut who notoriously feigned terminal illness and went as far as receiving attention and sympathy from fellow fans and members of the then-Broadway cast!
Oh, that was insane. It's rare that musical theatre would attract that level of emotional imbalance usually reserved for Jodie Foster or Michael Jackson.
Others will go multiple times and totally outstay their welcome.
Of course. Anything can be taken to excess. That's why I think it's about behavior, not age.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
Oh emlodik, if there's one thing you need a "check" on, it IS reality. Insulting people for having a difference of opinion isn't "reality" it's disgusting.
anything you do let it come from you and it will be new.
There's a difference between "homophobia" and "a reality check." If people feel like behaving like utter caricatures, and I will refer to them as such.
But you do realize, don't you, that by being nasty and calling other people "queen" in such a derisive manner, you yourself are behaving like an "utter caricature" of a "nasty, bitter queen."
Or do you?
There's a reason older gays (those of us you call "geriatric queens") stopped referring to each other like that decades ago.
Look up a book called "The Velvet Rage." I think you might finf it life-changing.
^Of course not! I'm referring to the Fangirl Army who threatened to drown me in dulce de leche for exposing them. Not you at all, apologies for any confusion.
Does this fangirl army really exist?! All I could see at the Marquis were crowds and crowds of Ricky fans. How old are these people? Are they all female? Are they New Yorkers, Porteñas or from all over the place? What do they do that makes them obnoxious?
They don't exist in London and BA (despite the fact Elena is much better liked there), that's for sure...