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NBC's SMASH - Series & Broadway Adaptation Thread

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MadAboutTheBoy
#2175Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/17/12 at 5:06pm

What a great idea, StageManager!

I think Angelica Houston's ex on the show should develop a competing musical based on "My Week with Marilyn" just to spite Houston. Then Ellis and Ivy could defect to "My Week with Marily" and do everything they can to sabotage "Bombshell."

FindingNamo
#2176Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/17/12 at 5:07pm

So, double the cast size and triple the budget, basically?


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#2177Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/17/12 at 5:31pm

Interesting point, Namo. Well, if we mostly hear about the competing musical (I don't envision the show following the development of a compteting musical as closely as they did "Bombshell.") and catch glimpses of it occasionally, I don't see why the budget would triple. But then again, I'm not a theatre professional. It seems to me they could use some of the cast of dancers and singers they already, especially if they'd only be seen for brief glimpses.

In terms of budget...well, it's just an IDEA lol.

FindingNamo
#2178Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/17/12 at 5:38pm

Well, getting the rights to use "My Week with Marilyn" would be a huge expense right there...


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#2179Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/17/12 at 5:42pm

The competing musical could be any take on Marilyn. It doesn't have to be based on "My Week with Marilyn". It was just a thought.

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#2180Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/17/12 at 5:50pm

As for "Smash," if they wanted to stick with the Marilyn/Joe theme, they could've focused on the making of "The Seven Year Itch," which occurred during their 9-month marriage and ultimately resulted in their divorce (the "skirt blowing" scene was the last straw), because Joe wanted Marilyn to quit acting and become a homemaker, but Marilyn had said she "always had too much fantasy to be only a housewife." So that's the major conflict. Moreover, the making of "Seven Year Itch" also included battling with the censors over the provocative script, and the Catholic Legion of Decency, which threatened to boycott the film if proper changes were not made. Here we also have the needy, insecure, pill-popping, tardy Marilyn, who became even worse after her split from DiMaggio. They became friendly again 7 months after wrap-up, and, in fact, DiMaggio escorted Marilyn to the premiere, but they fought bitterly again that night and became estranged for several years.

I can see DiMaggio narrating this one. Unlike Marilyn's other husbands, DiMaggio never spoke publicly or exploited their relationship, but it's interesting to conjecture what he thought and felt about their relationship. But it is clear that he truly loved her. When Marilyn was institutionalized in early 1961 (shortly after her divorce from Miller), she called DiMaggio for help. He dutifully showed up and demanded that they release his "wife" at once. Afterward, they remained friends until her death. Some say they had rekindled their romance. At any rate, DiMaggio was eager and willing to marry again. He even quit his
job and proposed to her so that he could devote fully his time to her in order to shield her from the Hollywood baddies, but she was unable to extricate herself from that lifestyle. That was the tragedy of their romance. After her death, he continued to carry a torch for her and had roses sent to her grave once a week for 20 years, but fans kept stealing them. DiMaggio realized the money could be better spent going toward charities in Marilyn's honor. Until his death, he remained devoted to her and never remarried.


Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia

Gaveston2
#2181Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/17/12 at 6:37pm

I don't think a narrator is a bad idea for BOMBSHELL, but from the standpoint of TV viewers we've had multiple narrators all along. The writer, Derek, the girls playing the part, etc. In fact, except for generalized pastiche numbers, all we've heard about the Marilyn of BOMBSHELL came from narration by one or another of the SMASH characters.

The problem, IMO, is that there is nothing to narrate.

Concentrating on a single period of her life seems a very productive idea (and is no doubt why MY WEEK WITH MARILYN was written as it was). Unity of time may not be deep, but it is always a way to make your story seem more cohesive.

And focussing on a star-crossed love affair with Joe DiMaggio might be the very best way to tell Monroe's story. But to achieve that, SMASH will have to start dramatizing an actual woman rather than merely displaying the icon. (And it's rather a shame to have a pretty boy playing DiMaggio when part of what fascinated the country was that Marilyn married homely men.)

Updated On: 5/17/12 at 06:37 PM

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#2182Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/17/12 at 7:16pm

The fabulous Julie Klausner has been threatening to do an all-SMASH podcast and it has finally happened! You can also get it for free on iTunes.

It's got Nate Harris, SMASH writer Jason Grote talking to Rachel Shukert, Morgan Murphy, Jackee Harry, Retta, and Billy Eichner among others!
How Was Your SMASH?


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

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strummergirl
#2183Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/17/12 at 9:46pm

Borstal beat me to it (she also did a fine TONYS mini-sode last year). The podcast was fantastic, especially when she and Nate transition from talking about the show to actually watching the finale and reacting to it.

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#2184Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 9:34am

Including Jason Grote was a brilliant coup. It's very funny...the Joan Didion bits had me howling!


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

SporkGoddess
#2185Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 9:45am

StageManager2: See, that story you just talked about? THAT would make a good musical. I didn't know that stuff about their romance and Bombshell as written doesn't mention it. They could even have a "bittersweet" ending with him sending roses to her grave and establishing how much he loved her and still loves her even years after she's died.


Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!

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TheatreDiva90016
#2186Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 10:46am

"Did you really need a winkie emoticon to know that my bobbie pins line was a joke? "

Maybe, because not one bobbie pin was used, or a pin curl, or a wig cap.  And that dresser should have been fired.  Who put the shoes on first, and then asks the performer to try and step into a dress?  

"She didn't teach the royal children of Thailand or bring interracial dancing to Baltimore"

I love this quote.


"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2

Gaveston2
#2187Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 2:50pm

StageManager2: See, that story you just talked about? THAT would make a good musical. I didn't know that stuff about their romance and Bombshell as written doesn't mention it. They could even have a "bittersweet" ending with him sending roses to her grave and establishing how much he loved her and still loves her even years after she's died.

And then they can just call the show MACK AND MABEL.

(Sorry, Spork. I don't mean to have fun at your expense, but I can't resist pointing out the similarities.)

Gothampc
#2188Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 3:24pm

"And then they can just call the show MACK AND MABEL."

Mabel didn't have Shelley Winters and Truman Capote as friends.


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

Gaveston2
#2189Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 3:26pm

^^^Not an expert, but I suspect Mabel Normand had equally interesting friends.

Gothampc
#2190Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 3:33pm

^^^ But the show's not called Joe and Marilyn. Mabel needed Mack. Marilyn didn't need nobody.


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

Gaveston2
#2191Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 3:36pm

^^^ Yeah, Marilyn did so well on her own. (You are joking, aren't you?)

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#2192Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 3:52pm

Smash -- Series Discussion

Monroe & Dimaggio: The Musical.

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#2193Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 4:48pm

That podcast is brilliant.

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Borstalboy
#2194Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 6:39pm

She and Shukert make a great case for being on "Team Ivy"


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

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EricMontreal22
#2195Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 6:43pm

Although I did find it surprising when they mentioned how much more experience she had, etc, that they didn't fairly mention the fact that some might question her getting a lead after what she did in Heaven on Earth.

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#2196Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 5/18/12 at 8:25pm

If someone from The Lion King per say, in a costume went on drunk, threw a fit and ran out the door…Disney would have a heart attack and then make sure that person never works again. Listening to that podcast, it clear that people take this show WAY to serious.



Updated On: 5/18/12 at 08:25 PM

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Borstalboy
#2197Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 6/7/12 at 12:31pm


The AV Club weighs in on what makes SMASH so special in our hearts


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

beautywickedlover
#2198Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 6/9/12 at 4:22pm

Only two songs will be submitted in the Creative Arts - Song category at the Emmys, "Let Me be Your Star" and "Touch Me".




Emmy rules crash 'Smash'

Plum
#2199Smash -- Series Discussion
Posted: 6/9/12 at 4:31pm

"Touch Me"?!

I...just...yeah. I'm going back to my Slings & Arrows rewatch.

Updated On: 6/9/12 at 04:31 PM


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