New Sweeney Todd Trailer (Now With Blood!)- Page 3

[FranzRelax]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 2:52am

Oh shut the heck up. It's been said the movie will follow the stage show quite closely.

Updated On: 10/20/07 at 02:52 AM

[Tkt2Ride]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 3:04am

Chason, to a point I agree with you. I just feel I have to see it first before pulling out the noose. There are shorter versions of most big productions, even on stage. Editing is the worse job there is because it can make or break a Movie.

I would forward my complaints initially to Dreamworks and tell them what you really think. Someone will read your comments and maybe they will care? Difficult to say? Whether you see it or not is a personal decision you have to make. I don't feel anyone will be deprived of a stage version anytime soon. I still believe we should be able to buy DVD's of popular shows because no one can go on to perform forever. Most Actors too, have different takes on each role. So even seeing the same Musical again won't usually give you the same performances.

That is perhaps a petition you can start and see where that leads us too?
Updated On: 10/20/07 at 03:04 AM

[Chason]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 3:19am

I only want a film to be FAITHFUL! I don't know for certain, but I believe that the movie versions I have seen of South Pacific, Oklahoma!, Oliver!, Hello, Dolly!, Funny Girl.... regardless of how GOOD they might have been... the directors tried to be FAITHFUL to the PLAY versions. I feel that PHANTOM and RENT tried to be FAITHFUL to their STAGE versions. Yet they SUCKED at the box-office. It's CLEAR, don't you think? Persons who attend and LOVE musicals on the stage, do NOT support MUSICALS made into FILMS? They USED to - but now they don't! And THAT is what studios are starting to percieve. SOON (maybe even EARLIER than Sweeney) we are going to start seeing big "hit" musicals on STAGE being trunkated to something that is LESS than what was initially INTENDED. Hell, by the time Sunset Boulevard: the Musical actually makes it to the SCREEN, it might have been reduced to little more than the ORIGINAL film. Honest to God! What's the point? You either WANT to see a MUSICAL or you don't!

[Smaxie]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 6:10am

Welllll... I wouldn't exactly call the Funny Girl film a faithful version of the stage musical. Eight songs are cut or replaced. As for the rest of your list, the only really great film of the bunch is Oliver (which cut three songs from the stage version). Dolly! is bloated and overproduced, South Pacific has those weird filters, Oklahoma! is respectable, but a bit stodgy.

I'm not sure what you are seeing that is making you think the Sweeney Todd film is unfaithful to its stage source. Burton has said in print how much he loved the original stage musical, and the film bears that out.

[rosscoe(au)]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 7:30am

From Variety...a bit off topic, not sure if it needed it's own thread ( i don't thnk it does )

"This year, DreamWorks can afford to lay low on Tim Burton's "Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street," because the R-rated Stephen Sondheim musical has a strong curiosity factor going for it. The movie, which opens on 1,200 screens Dec. 21, stars Johnny Depp, who has been nominated twice and never won. DreamWorks will start running "for your consideration" trade ads after the movie has been screened in early December; DVDs will be mailed in December."

[joshy]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 9:21am

I LOVE THIS TRAILER!!!

You can see Toby when Mrs Lovett is demonstrating the meat grinder. He looks positively cherubic.

I literally cannot wait for this movie. I'm so pissed off that it's coming out in the UK almost a month after in the USA!

[GoSmileLaughCryClap]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 10:42am

Where did the Washington Post get a running time of 160 minutes? Could it be true? Is the guy just wrong?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/19/AR2007101900637.html

[Chason]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 11:19am

"Welllll... I wouldn't exactly call the Funny Girl film a faithful version of the stage musical. Eight songs are cut or replaced. As for the rest of your list, the only really great film of the bunch is Oliver (which cut three songs from the stage version). Dolly! is bloated and overproduced, South Pacific has those weird filters, Oklahoma! is respectable, but a bit stodgy."

My bad. See there? What do I know? EIGHT songs cut from Funny Girl??? I'm calling Barbra to complain. Apparently, it's official today. The Washington Post has announced the official running time of Todd is 160 minutes. Now keep in mind that I have no idea how they came UP with this info. Never-the-less... I'm certain that Tim Burton has made his masterpiece, and that musical fans will now be happy with the movie version. Guess he figured out we're not STUPID!

[D2]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 11:22am

*bites tongue*

[Smaxie]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 11:26am

>The Washington Post has announced the official running time of Todd is 160 minutes.<

As I've said on the other thread, this information is wrong. The film is about one hour and 50 minutes. And the reporter goes on to make an issue of the film's supposed length, when in fact, she's wrong.

[Cape Twirl of Doom]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 11:27am

I love this train of thought.

90 min= What a sucky movie, good god the skies are falling OMG!!1!11!

160 min= This film is a masterpiece that will be loved by everyone. Bow before genius Burton.

Yes, because the only thing that separates a good movie from a bad one is how long it is. And hmmm, if it were 160 min, then that would be 30 min longer than the stage version. Seems to me like that's not being faithful to the original either.

(ps. to use italics use the < i> & < /i> tags.)

[mateo]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 11:31am

The Nightmare Before Christmas is only 76 min and I consider that a masterpiece.

[Chason]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 12:28pm

"The Nightmare Before Christmas is only 76 min and I consider that a masterpiece."

Agreed. It was never a 2 hour and 45 minute play, though.

[Boq101]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 12:30pm

I loved the orchestrations, didnt like the lack of music in the beginning, when the only think you hear is the fat policemen hiting every prop...

[Smaxie]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 12:36pm

Orchestrations are by Jonathan Tunick by the way, with Paul Gemignani conducting.

Chason, would you have the producers of Chicago give back their Academy Award because "A Little Bit of Good," "My Own Best Friend," "I Know a Girl," "Me And My Baby," "Class" and "When Velma Takes the Stand" are not in the film? (Actually, on that subject, I've never understood why they didn't try harder to include "My Own Best Friend" in the screenplay).

[CyCoSpAz2]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 12:45pm

Loved it.

[Chason]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 12:50pm

"Chason, would you have the producers of Chicago give back their Academy Award because "A Little Bit of Good," "My Own Best Friend," "I Know a Girl," "Me And My Baby," "Class" and "When Velma Takes the Stand" are not in the film? (Actually, on that subject, I've never understood why they didn't try harder to include "My Own Best Friend" in the screenplay)".

I had seen Chicago twice on stage before I saw the movie. I don't think the movie "holds a candle" to the play. I even feel that the ending has a different feel to it. Don't you?

[Boq101]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 12:54pm

Chason, shut up.

IT'S A DIFFERENT MEDIUM. DO YOU GET IT?
some stuff just doesn't work on film, have you seen to Rosalind Rusell film version of "Gypsy"? It dragged so much I wanted to kill myself. I mean Chicago was a great film, and btw, it's supposed to feel different from the show, because it's a movie. The only reason I can bear to watch Kiss Me, Kate and Victor/Victoria as shows recorded on film is because I KNOW it's on stage, but sometimes even those movies put me to sleep for being so freaking long.

[GoSmileLaughCryClap]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 1:01pm

Aint It Cool news reports that there will be a trailer focusing on the music:

Hey folks, Harry here with a very cool new trailer for SWEENEY TODD - THE DEMON BARBER OF FLEET STREET. I've heard that we're to expect trailers of varying types... some that emphasize the musical nature of the film - other - like this one - that stress the suspense and revenge aspects of this film. There's nothing like a bit of ground meat and razor flourishing to perk me right up. I love what I see thus far...

[DMsquared2]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 1:06pm

I liked it a lot but not as much ast he first. The meat grinder made me laugh in a "I can't believe they're showing that!" kind of way.

[Boq101]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 1:07pm

Also, lovely furnace, Mrs. Lovett's death is confirmed right there.

[artscallion]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 1:28pm

"Also, lovely furnace, Mrs. Lovett's death is confirmed right there."

How so? It shows her opening the oven door, which I imagine she could be doing at many points in the story.

[Smaxie]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 1:32pm

True, but.... (SPOILER?) ...



Boq is correct.

[artscallion]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 1:43pm

Smaxie, can you come over for lunch?

[uncageg]

Posted: 10/20/07 at 1:50pm

Based on the 2 trailers so far, I love the look of the film so far. It is pretty much as I had hoped it would look. And I knew Burton could pull that look off. Was wondering if that one flash of him viciously slicing a throat was the Judge. I hope he doesn't slash throats like this throughout the movie. If so, I think it would take something away from the story for me. But I can't wait to see it. It will be what it will be. Yes, I would love to see the movie with all of the music intact. I know it is another medium, but for me, I would like to hear it all. But the reality is that not all movie audiences would go for that. But with that being said, I think that not doing this was the downfall of "RENT" the movie. JMO