PM QUESTION!- Page 2

[ChildofEarth]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 8:25pm

This is insane and intrusive. If someone doesn’t have a Facebook, they have to send a photo of a license where you get their address, organ donor status, and other key information? That’s insanity.

I hope that whatever happened last night was truly bad enough to warrant absolutely destroying the community here. And the Adsense money that you probably got from people visiting.

[Fetus]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 9:12pm

ChildofEarth said: "I hope that whatever happened last night was truly bad enough to warrant absolutely destroying the community here. And the Adsense money that you probably got from people visiting."

Some of it was bad, but none of it was worth all the fuss it's caused.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 9:20pm

It wasnt.

[(Insert Clever Name)]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 9:23pm

As the self proclaimed resident child on these boards I’m gonna just say that even I can’t agree with this. This is invasive and just awful. Please just remove the trolls, my PMs are very important to me trying to buy stuff off people as stupid as that sounds, yet I can’t have a Facebook. There is also no way in H-E double hockey stick I’m giving you my ID. I don’t understand why from what I can see a cirtain Disney princess got her feelings hurt and now we have to suffer. I liked (redacted) as a person but this is way too far! Why am I being punished?

[Moderator]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 9:31pm

Hi all. More tech savvy Moderator here! We've heard your concerns re user privacy. 

At this time there is no plan to make any of the info we collect via Facebook for user authentication public in any way whatsoever - if the board ever implements a rule like that it'd be a separate opt-in process. But again, that's not the plan or goal. It's our way of filtering out users with multiple accounts violating our rules.

With that said, in the morning we'll have our dev team remove restrictions on PMs for existing users. We may still require some users who have had suspensions to verify their identity for security reasons.

We want all our long time users to have the best possible experience on BWW. We apologize for some of the confusion as we figure out the best way to make that happen. We'll continue to keep you updated.

Thanks!

[gypsy101]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 9:40pm

Anakela said: "No offense, but, fulloffense: if you are "not a tech expert" and "don't 100% know how it works" and you "don't completely know if/how the Facebook information will be publicly displayed, or not" and you "don't know if this is where we end up long term or not" and "this is certainly not my area of expertise," etc etc etc, then why are you the moderator who is explaining this?

And why don't you have a name when you post?"

exactly this. 

this stuff is bonkerballs.

[Fetus]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 9:58pm

Moderator said: "
With that said, in the morning we'll have our dev team remove restrictions on PMs for existing users. We may still require some users who have had suspensions to verify their identity for security reasons."

What security reasons could possibly require their personal identity to unsuspend them? That's still pretty unacceptable. Is there any particular reason you would need their identity beyond holding it over their head?

Most forums just do a temporary suspension or an infraction point system which keeps users in line and their personal information secure.

[addicted]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 10:15pm

As someone who already used my FB info to be able to send PMs, I trust that a) my info will not be made available to other users (including my name/FB login or anything of the sort) and b) more importantly, that you will be complying with all applicable data privacy laws regarding handling of such information you are collecting.

[LuPita2]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 10:18pm

^ Yeah, just like Facebook kept users data private..............oh wait.  Do NOT trust it will be kept private!!

Updated On: 12/10/18 at 10:18 PM

[Elfuhbuh]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 11:32pm

Yeah, sorry mods, but I can’t get onboard with this one. I don’t understand what you guys would possibly need with the personal info of people who were suspended, especially if you say you aren’t going to do anything with it anyway.

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 11:37pm

I think they’re hoping that if people are not completely anonymous (at least to the mods) they’ll conduct themselves with more decorum on here. A tall order for some for sure.

[Elfuhbuh]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 11:45pm

I guess my question is why would it matter if there’s no threat of anything being done with said private info? I’m not saying I want users to be doxxed, quite the opposite, actually, but would someone’s real name being privately attached to their account really weigh in how they decide to conduct themselves on this board if they know that no one besides the mods will find out who they are anyways? It just feels a little sketchy to say, “We want your personal info to make sure you don’t act out of line again, but don’t worry! We won’t do anything with it!”

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 12/10/18 at 11:49pm

I understand the concern. Personally, I don’t have a problem with it. I’ve already linked my Facebook account. One day in the future, I may look back and regret it, but not now. Of course, I don’t feel like I’ve conducted myself on here in a way that causes me concern.

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 12:15am

My tbought on this...

Maybe someone or some people from last night were identified (as in real identities) and it has caused this to happen.

Just a tbought.

[Fetus]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 12:19am

uncageg said: "My tbought on this...

Maybe someone or some people from last night were identified (as in real identities) and it has caused this to happen.

Just a tbought."

Last night had nothing to do with doxxing or anyone's identities being exposed, this is just a shameless tactic from the moderators to get the personal identities of "problem" users for whatever intention they have. If they claim they aren't doing anything with it, why do they need it in the first place?

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 12:35am

I don't know what doxxing is.

From what I am reading, things went too far in some way.

Fetus, we do not work in th BWW offices so you don't know what tbis has to do with. They have not told us everytbing.

And they may not be doing anything with it except keeping tabs on who is paying here and making sure thingslike last night don't happen again.

And with that said. I hope that after whatever is going on is settled, BWW can tell us why all of this is happening. No need to name names but lay out the truth to us.

[Fetus]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 12:44am

uncageg said: "I don't know what doxxing is.

From what I am reading, things went too far in some way.

Fetus, we do not work in th BWW offices so you don't know what tbis has to do with. They have not told us everytbing.

And they may not be doing anything with it except keeping tabs on who is paying here and making sure thingslike last night don't happen again.

And with that said. I hope that after whatever is going on is settled, BWW can tell us why all of this is happening. No need to name names but lay out the truth to us."

Doxxing is the act of exposing someone's personal information online. Truth be told, some of the comments last night did go too far, but not nearly at the level I've seen on this forum in my 8 years of lurking.

Obviously I do not work at BWW so I do not know everything about the current situation on their end, my primary concern is the request of personal information because of a lack of transparency on why it is even necessary. If they are using someones personal information as a way to "keep tabs" on certain users then that is very questionable and problematic what they would use their personal information for.

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 2:12am

They already said they are not using it externally. If you feel like they might, close your account.

[Fetus]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 2:20am

The point is why they need it in the first place.

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 3:00am

The point is...they need it.

For whatever reason, they feel they do.

[Wee Thomas2]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 6:13am

BobbyBubby said: "And I would strongly advise everyone to not link your Facebook to this site. Not if you value your privacy."

And if you truly value your privacy, you wouldn't have a Facebook account.  Quite the opposite, in fact.

[(Insert Clever Name)]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 7:26am

I’m not even super worried about the mods, but given that this is literally broadwayworld.com, I would give it 10 minutes before some hacker that knows what their doing to grab all of your Facebook data, then once they have your Facebook data 5 to find out where you live

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 8:02am

BWW mods: *wildly hammering nails into coffin lid* "Y'know, I think this'll finally be the thing that gets this darn lid off!"

[Moderator]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 9:09am

Good morning all! PM restrictions have been removed for all members in good standing. If anyone has any issues feel free to get in touch with us directly. Thanks!

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 12/11/18 at 10:06am

"Good standing."

This sounds like China's social currency movement.