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#2

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

I still wish it was the OBC or the OLC, but sign me up. Do we know which alumni are coming? It'd be great if they actually got Michael Crawford there and singing this time.
#3

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

The fact that the "record" for the "original" production of Phantom will be lead with 2 Black actors as the leads, warms my heart! I love it, Andy!
#5

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

It's sad that they didn't do this with the Broadway production before it closed, so the best we can get now is cheapened costumes/set pieces and an "orchestra" full of synthesizers courtesy of Cameron Mackintosh, and direction by Seth Sklar-Heyn instead of Hal Prince.
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#6

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

mitchern said: "Do we know which alumni are coming? It'd be great if they actually got Michael Crawford there and singing this time."

While an appearance by Michael Crawford would certainly be very appropriate and very appreciated, I doubt they will get him to sing; he's 84 now, and he didn't even sing at the 25th.

As Sarah Brightman has already made appearances and performed at prior anniversary celebrations, I have to wonder whether they would simply recreate the same performance again (i.e., the title song, surrounded by past Phantoms urging her to sing for them); this would seem recycled to me.

If Sarah, and perhaps Michael, make appearances without singing, what alumni might actually perform? It's London, so maybe:

  • Phantom:
    • Earl Carpenter
    • Peter Jöback - He played the role in both London and New York, including the Broadway 25th.
    • Ramin Karimloo - He played the role in London (including the 25th), Italy, and Shanghai, played the character in both Phantom of the Opera and Love Never Dies, and played Raoul.
    • Marcus Lovett - He played the role in both London and New York.
    • John Owen-Jones
  • Christine:
    • Claire Moore - She was the original Christine alternate for Sarah Brightman.
    • Anna O'Byrne - She played the character in both Phantom of the Opera and Love Never Dies.
  • Raoul:
    • Michael Ball
    • John Barrowman

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Updated On: 10/7/26 at 10:50 AM

#7

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

Lot666 said: "mitchern said: "Do we know which alumni are coming? It'd be great if they actually got Michael Crawford there and singing this time."

While an appearance by Michael Crawford would certainly be very appropriate and very appreciated, I doubt they will get him to sing;he's 84 now, and he didn't even sing at the 25th.

As Sarah Brightman has already made appearances andperformed at prior anniversary celebrations, I have to wonder whether they would simply recreate the same performance again (i.e., the title song, surrounded by past Phantoms urging her to sing for them); this would seem recycled to me.

If Sarah, and perhaps Michael, make appearances without singing, what alumni might actually perform? It's London, so maybe:

  • Phantom:
    • Earl Carpenter
    • Peter Jöback - He played the role in both London and New York, including the Broadway 25th.
    • Ramin Karimloo - He played the role in London (including the 25th), Italy, and Shanghai, playedthe character in both Phantom of the Opera and Love Never Dies, and played Raoul.
    • Marcus Lovett - He played the role in both London and New York.
    • John Owen-Jones
  • Christine:
    • Claire Moore - She wasthe original Christine alternate for Sarah Brightman.
    • Anna O'Byrne - She played the character in both Phantom of the Opera and Love Never Dies.
  • Raoul:
    • Michael Ball
    • John Barrowman

"

I assumed he didn't sing at the 25th because they weren't sure that he would make it from The Wizard of Oz on time to be there.

#8

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

I'm not sure why I'm surprised there was never a pro-shot of the original production. On the one hand, proshots weren't really a thing back then. Some shows were videotaped and preserved (three of Sondheim's, and that Canadian production of Pippin, among them). But it was a rare thing. On the other hand, few Broadway composers have ever been as media-savvy as Lloyd Webber, and I'd expected him to be ahead of the trend here.

I mean, considering how much both Lloyd Webber and Mackintosh put into auxilary merchandise to milk as many profits as possible from a given show, and considering that were was obviously some pro-shot footage done, since we saw pretty elegant footage from certain scenes to accompany press coverage when the show first opened, I'd have thought filming the whole thing and offering it for sale in home media would have been slated to occur at some future point. I see why they would have held off releasing it for quite some time, with all the revenue to be gained from the rare privilege of seeing the show on Broadway or in the West End, and the multiple touring productions. But I've have thought they'd have captured it and played the long game, knowing it would have a lot of value as a commercial released in the future.

Updated On: 10/7/26 at 12:59 PM

#9

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

I think there was a pro-shot of the original London production.

Filmed on September 4, 2004 with John Owen-Jones as the Phantom, Katie Knight-Adams as Christine and Ramin Karimloo as Raoul. Numerous clips were used in the "Behind The Mask" documentary included on the bonus features of the film's DVD release. The credits of the documentary on the DVD lists the date of filming names each member of the company.

This documentary was expanded upon with additional footage and interviews and brodcast by the BBC in December, 2006.

No idea why it was ultimately shelved, but it seems they did film at least one performance in HD on multiple cameras. The clips used in the documentaries are beautifully done.


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Updated On: 10/7/26 at 01:19 PM

#10

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

There were several pro-shots of London but none for commercial release. They either sit in RUG/CML vaults or, in the case of one, at the V&A.

It's tragic that this is the version that gets filmed for posterity. Already I have seen enough books and articles (including academic ones!) erroneously view the Albert Hall DVD as the actual show as conceived by the original creatives, and this is only going to make things worse.

To add insult to injury, there's PR statement that BroadwayWorld have uncritically copied and pasted without even attributing it as a quotation to Mackintosh, i.e. that it has been "heightened in every department" and is an "enhanced" and "revitalised" version of the original, rather than something scaled down in quite tacky/plasticky now in many respects.

Re the question about Crawford, he specifically asked not to sing at the Albert Hall event. He didn't want the pressure. And Brightman cheated anyway as most of her vocalisations were basically taken from the OLC once she got up to the high C.

Updated On: 10/7/26 at 04:55 PM

#11

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

Congratulations to the brilliantly talented Jordan Donica for such an incredible accomplishment. That the first official pro-shot is with TWO leads of Color is a massive deal. I knew the second he opened his mouth in My Fair Lady he was a star. Bravo!


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Updated On: 10/7/26 at 04:58 PM

#12

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

Sutton Ross said: "Congratulations to the brilliantly talented Jordan Donica for such an incredible accomplishment. That the first official pro-shot is with TWO leads of Color is a massive deal. I knew the second he opened his mouth in My Fair Lady he was a star. Bravo!"

Donica would have been an amazing Sweeney Todd with his incredible baritone. He really has an amazing voice-a true talent.

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The Scorpion said: "It's tragic that this is the version that gets filmed for posterity. Already I have seen enough books and articles (including academic ones!) erroneously view the Albert Hall DVD as the actual show as conceived by the original creatives, and this is only going to make things worse."

It's worse if they didn't augment in the orchestra back to it's original size, at least for the filming. I'm guessing they did not or reports online would've noted it.


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cknick said: "It's worse if they didn't augment in the orchestra back to it's original size, at least for the filming. I'm guessing they did not or reports online would've noted it."

Fingers crossed that maybe they'll figure out a way to do it in post-production.


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#15

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Lot666 said: "cknick said: "It's worse if they didn't augment in the orchestra back to it's original size, at least for the filming. I'm guessing they did not or reports online would've noted it."

Fingers crossed that maybe they'll figure out a way to do it in post-production.


"

Which is even worse yet! ;)

The proshot will be fun to watch, but it makes me more sad than excited. Certainly if the show wasn't hacked during Covid, it would've survived in tact to get on the proshot bandwagon.

#16

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

OT, but does anyone happen to know how long Jordan is slated to be with the show?

#17

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

The full original Harold Prince staging does exist via international production pro-shots so it’s accessible if anyone wanted to see it.

Here’s the 2004 pro-shot of the Spain production:

#19

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Alexander Lamar said: "OT, but does anyone happen to know how long Jordan is slated to be with the show?"

I believe the original press announcement indicated "Spring 2027".


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#20

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ukpuppetboy said: "If that’s a pro-shot the producers should be asking for their money back."

It’s not a commercially released pro-shot, it’s for their archives. For an archival pro-shot, it’s pretty damn well shot as typically archival pro-shots are filmed with a static shot of the full stage and zero zooming in, etc.

#21

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ukpuppetboy said: "If that’s a pro-shot the producers should be asking for their money back."

It was recorded for archival purposes, not professional release. Welcome.


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#22

Re: Phantom of the Opera Pro-Shot

joevitus said: "On the other hand, few Broadway composers have ever been as media-savvy as Lloyd Webber, and I'd expected him to be ahead of the trend here."

I have to assume it was because they were holding out for a feature film, and that took 15 years.

#23

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ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "joevitus said: "On the other hand, few Broadway composers have ever been as media-savvy as Lloyd Webber, and I'd expected him to be ahead of the trend here."

I have to assume it was because they were holding out for a feature film, and that took 15 years.
"

Though one doesn't really cancel out the other. There's a LOT of money to be made from a pro-shot, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to a potential blockbuster movie. And if the pro-shot had been first, that really wouldn't have killed the the interest in a movie (the wider audience has no interest in pro-shots, and fans of the stage should would likely go to the movie no matter what), nor would the release of the movie--even if it had been a Wicked-level success--have killed interest in a pro-shot (fans of the play would want the pro-shot even if they'd already seen the movie).

#24

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I'm aware of all that, but referencing the common thinking of the 80s-90s.

CATS was sort of a different beast since any feature film would have been so different than the stage production.

#25

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Andrew Lloyd Webber's vault of suppressed material is apparently vast. I wouldn't be surprised if when Lord Sydmonton passes on, his estate will make yearly releases of coveted stuff from the ALW Vault, much like the Prince and David Bowie estates have done.

(I'm hoping for something similar from Richard O'Brien's estate too.)

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