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Mister Matt
#25RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/1/17 at 6:20pm

It doesn't.  Maureen isn't labeled a bisexual and I certainly never thought of her as a "slut".  If people take that as their assessment of bisexuals, it has far more to do with their own prejudices than anything reflected in the show itself.  Do you also think that the show portrays all heterosexual females are drug addicts and exotic dancers?


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
Updated On: 1/1/17 at 06:20 PM

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TheatreFan4
#26RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/1/17 at 6:25pm

The same ways that most people obtained AZT in 1996 (including friends of mine who were struggling 20-something artists that didn't make more than about $5.50 an hour).  The price made the drug nearly unobtainable and thought it dropped considerably in the 90s, was still expensive at full price.  But by the mid-90s, many health care insurance programs began to cover it as well as medicare, the Ryan White Consortium and patient-assistance programs.  

Rent isn't set in 1996, it's set in 1989. Big difference.

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icecreambenjamin
#27RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/1/17 at 6:38pm

Mister Matt said: "It doesn't.  Maureen isn't labeled a bisexual and I certainly never thought of her as a "slut".  If people take that as their assessment of bisexuals, it has far more to do with their own prejudices than anything reflected in the show itself.  Do you also think that the show portrays all heterosexual females are drug addicts and exotic dancers?

 

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 It promotes a common stereotype about bisexuals and pansexuals and yeah Maureen is suggested to be bisexual or pansexual.  And also heterosexual females aren't commonly stereotyped to be drug addicts and exotic dancers while bisexuals or pansexuals (especially women) are stereotyped as sluts.  And I thought that they made it clear that Maureen kind of gets around which some would classify as being a slut.

 

Updated On: 1/1/17 at 06:38 PM

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Mister Matt
#28RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/1/17 at 6:43pm

Rent isn't set in 1996, it's set in 1989. Big difference.

If you're talking about the bone-headed film adaptation, then yes, it created all kinds plot holes that didn't exist in the original stage production, which was not set in 1989.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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Mister Matt
#29RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/1/17 at 7:05pm

It promotes a common stereotype about bisexuals and pansexuals and yeah Maureen is suggested to be bisexual or pansexual.

And I thought that they made it clear that Maureen kind of gets around which some would classify as being a slut.

Well, that's what you decided to take away from the show, I suppose.  I never once considered her a "slut" or took it a step further as to assume that her supposed sluttiness was a by-product of her gender preference (or lack thereof), especially within the framework of the show as a whole.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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icecreambenjamin
#30RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/1/17 at 7:13pm

^Sure whatever floats your boat.

Alex Kulak2
#31RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/1/17 at 8:44pm

that RENT abridged script is the best thing I've ever read, thank you

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Mister Matt
#32RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/1/17 at 9:13pm

Sure whatever floats your boat.

Sure dismissive ditto.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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hork
#33RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/1/17 at 9:18pm

HogansHero said: "hork said: "Not really. Most of us love the show. I personally think it's one of the best musicals ever written. I think you're projecting."

projecting what? and it is not inconsistent to love something and still overthink it.


 

Projecting reasons why we're "picking nits." Nobody here is trying to tear it down because it won the Pulitzer.

 

Updated On: 1/2/17 at 09:18 PM

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hork
#34RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/1/17 at 9:30pm

As far as we know, Maureen has sex with exactly one person in the year the show spans, and it's her girlfriend. She's not a slut, and no one ever refers to her as a slut. She's just a sexy, desirable woman. 

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icecreambenjamin
#35RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/1/17 at 9:41pm

^Yeah, but some (not that I agree with them) believe that she would qualify as being flirtatious and somewhat slutty.  It's just another bisexual or pansexual character who loves to have sex and is kind of a crazy party girl.

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gypsy101
#36RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/2/17 at 2:44am

Alex Kulak2 said: "that RENT abridged script is the best thing I've ever read, thank you"

i loved that broadway abridged website for many years and was so sad he stopped updating it a few years ago (the last relevant thing he abridged was the entire first season of Smash which was fun)


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xxdrewboy85xx
#37RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/2/17 at 3:43am

Mister Matt said: "Rent isn't set in 1996, it's set in 1989. Big difference.

If you're talking about the bone-headed film adaptation, then yes, it created all kinds plot holes that didn't exist in the original stage production, which was not set in 1989."


 

 

That always bugged me in the film. Like was Angel psychic for knowing he outcome to Thelma and Louise when the film wasn't released for another 2 years?! 

 

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CindersGolightly
#38RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/2/17 at 4:17am

TotallyEffed said: "I still don't know what, "I think I missed, don't get pissed" means and that keeps me up some nights."

I always took it as "I think I missed (my period) - don't get pissed (because I'm now pregnant but I'm going to have an abortion)"? But maybe I'm way off, and it is a sex joke. It's never said in a funny way, though. But what do I know.


They/them. "Get up the nerve to be all you deserve to be."

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imeldasturn
#39RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/2/17 at 5:00am

Doesn't Roger wear a sleeveless shirt despite of the fact that all the other characters keep complaining about how cold it is?

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HogansHero
#40RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/2/17 at 10:04am

hork said: "Projecting reasons why we're "picking nits." Nobody hear is trying to tear it down because it won the Pulitzer."

Rereading the thread, I think I was generalizing from the specific. I don't think "nobody" is correct but I also don't think "most" is apt. Larson wrote a show in an off-Broadway sensibility (by which I mean simply that he did not feel the need to spell everything out or eliminate every enigma, was happy to drop some inside references, and saw no need to get rid of his characters warts). You have done a good job batting down a good many of people's "holes" by simply revealing that they just didn't understand. Now if I could just convince you that "hear" doesn't rhyme with "tear," all would be right in the world RENT Plot Holes

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g.d.e.l.g.i.
#41RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/2/17 at 10:48am

For anybody who is actually curious, somebody once did the math on the timeline of the stage show, and it busted down (wish I could find the post about this) as occurring in the 1994/95 time-frame.


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Mister Matt
#42RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/2/17 at 12:02pm

Yeah, but some (not that I agree with them) believe that she would qualify as being flirtatious and somewhat slutty.  It's just another bisexual or pansexual character who loves to have sex and is kind of a crazy party girl.

Apparently, you must agree with the anonymous "some" (first I've ever heard of them) because you already said you believe the show itself is perpetuating the negative stereotype. 

 


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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kdogg36
#43RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/2/17 at 3:21pm

HogansHero said: "Now if I could just convince you that "hear" doesn't rhyme with "tear," all would be right in the world "

I'm assuming you mean tear in the sense of "rip" rather than "water that comes from your eyes." :) Is this a rhyme that's attempted in Rent?

 

Updated On: 1/2/17 at 03:21 PM

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HogansHero
#44RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/2/17 at 5:45pm

kdogg36 said: "HogansHero said: "Now if I could just convince you that "hear" doesn't rhyme with "tear," all would be right in the world "

I'm assuming you mean tear in the sense of "rip" rather than "water that comes from your eyes." :) Is this a rhyme that's attempted in Rent?
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No. It was a joke based on the fact that Hork spelled "hear" when he meant "here" and then used the word "tear" in the next phrase. 

I assume Hork got my slanted message :)

Mike66
#45RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/2/17 at 5:57pm

Do men actually say "oops I missed" to their girlfriends after they try to sneak anal sex?

Most fascinating thing I've heard on these boards in quite some time.

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Mister Matt
#46RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/2/17 at 7:23pm

Do men actually say "oops I missed" to their girlfriends after they try to sneak anal sex?

It's been an increasingly popular joke for a very very long time.  Do they literally say it?  I wouldn't know. I'm not a straight man or a female who has dated a straight man. 


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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hork
#47RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/3/17 at 12:07am

icecreambenjamin said: "^Yeah, but some (not that I agree with them) believe that she would qualify as being flirtatious and somewhat slutty.  It's just another bisexual or pansexual character who loves to have sex and is kind of a crazy party girl.

 

I'm struggling to think of any bisexual female character before 1996, from any medium.

 

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HogansHero
#48RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/3/17 at 12:46am

hork said: "I'm struggling to think of any bisexual female character before 1996, from any medium."

There is actually quite a bit, but staying somewhat within the realm of musical theatre, The Color Purple (the film, not the show, obviously).

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Mister Matt
#50RENT Plot Holes
Posted: 1/3/17 at 10:51am

Especially since that particular point isn't a plot hole.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian


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