Lola Getz2 said: "Roscoe said: "There's probably some contractual reason somewhere for this, but shouldn't there be a credit somewhere along the lines of "based on the screenplay by Billy Wilder and I.A.L. Diamond"? Considering how very much of their dialogue made the transfer from screen to stage, to say nothing of all those character names..."
I found that rather shocking as well, so I did some digging.
According to the interwebs:This work is in the public domain because it waspublished in the United States between 1927 and 1963, and although there may or may not have been a copyright notice, the copyright was not renewed."
I have no idea what site you're looking at, but Some Like it Hot has never been in the public domain. It's owned by MGM/UA (now Amazon). If the film were in the public domain like Charade and a few others of that era, anyone could release it on DVD or Blu-ray or anything else. But it is not in the public domain, which is why the program says "based on the MGM movie" or whatever it says - of course, that's a misnomer as it wasn't an MGM movie it was a United Artists movie. I believe the length of copyright at the time of Some Like it Hot was seventy-five years and I'm sure that was renewed when it was extended. It has NEVER gone out of copyright. As to why Mr. Wilder and Mr. Diamond's screenplay is not credited, I should think their estates would have a good case to sue.
“Based on the screenplay "Some Like it Hot" by Billy Wilder and I.A.L. Diamond; Suggested by a story by Robert Thoeren; Additional Material by Christian Borle and Joe Farrell.”
People are being credited despite this weird claim.
By the way, noting that photo of empty seats: the matinee was not on TDF. Only the evening. Genuinely baffled as to why they'd rather play to a half-empty house this week, especially a matinee, which is invariably filled with happy holiday folk.
Crowds heretofore indifferent will not suddenly find the show at the TKTS booth. Nothing is up on TDF for next week or beyond, and it's woefully undersold. I understand taking care of a brand, fearing that heavy discounting will damage futures. But this show's struggles are now life or death.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
I wonder if they would have been better off picking a smaller theater?
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
GiantsInTheSky2 said: "“Based on the screenplay "Some Like it Hot" by Billy Wilderand I.A.L. Diamond; Suggested by a story byRobert Thoeren; Additional Material by Christian Borleand Joe Farrell.”
People are being credited despite this weird claim."
I stand corrected. I just googled Public Domain Some Like it Hot and that is what popped up.
I guess you really CAN'T trust everything you read on the web. LOL.
JSquared2 said: "BCfitasafiddle said: "Natasha Yvette Williams has been out for a few days. I really hope she doesn't have COVID. I'm seeing the show on Christmas Eve and she is one the people I've been most excited to see."
She posted on her IG today that she's on Good Morning America tomorrow --- so it sounds like it's not Covid.
Auggie27 said: "By the way, noting that photo of empty seats: the matinee was not on TDF. Only the evening. Genuinely baffled as to why they'd rather play to a half-empty house this week, especially a matinee, which is invariably filled with happy holiday folk.
Crowds heretofore indifferent will not suddenly find the show at the TKTS booth. Nothing is up on TDF for next week or beyond, and it's woefully undersold. I understand taking care of a brand, fearing that heavy discounting will damage futures. But this show's struggles are now life or death."
I had matinee tickets through tdf, they just must have gone quickly. We were in the rear orchestra!
GiantsInTheSky2 said: "“Based on the screenplay "Some Like it Hot" by Billy Wilderand I.A.L. Diamond; Suggested by a story byRobert Thoeren; Additional Material by Christian Borleand Joe Farrell.”
People are being credited despite this weird claim."
So, someone here posted there was no credit and yet there is credit. Can some kind soul explain to me why someone would post erroneous information like that?
bk said: " So, someone here posted there was no credit and yet there is credit. Can some kind soul explain to me why someone would post erroneous information like that?"
inception said: "bk said: " So, someone here posted there was no credit and yet there is credit. Can some kind soul explain to me why someone would post erroneous information like that?"
Reading is hard"
No separate credit for Wilder or Diamond just the blanket credit of "Based on the Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer motion picture, "Some Like it Hot".
"Sugar" whose title was eventually changed to "Some Like it Hot: The Musical" [I'm guessing it now has to revert itself back to being called "Sugar"] credited Wilder and Diamond directly.
Was "Sugar" renamed "Some Like it Hot, the Musical" for anything other than the 2002 Tony Curtis tour? I think it was referred to as "Sugar" for subsequent productions. So not an official title change except for this one touring production?
FranklinDickson2018 said: "Was "Sugar" renamed "Some Like it Hot, the Musical" for anything other than the 2002 Tony Curtis tour? I think it was referred to as "Sugar" for subsequent productions. So not an official title change except for this one touring production?
That's a great question. I'm not sure. "Here's Love", Meredith Willson's 1963 musical re-imagining of "Miracle on 34th Street" also underwent a name change at one point to: "Miracle on 34th Street - The Musical." Happily, "Promises, Promises" the musical adaptation of Wilder and Diamond's classic film, "The Apartment" did not suffer the same fate.
CarlosAlberto said: "inception said: "bk said: " So, someone here posted there was no credit and yet there is credit. Can some kind soul explain to me why someone would post erroneous information like that?"
Reading is hard"
No separate credit for Wilder or Diamond just the blanket credit of "Based on the Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer motion picture, "Some Like it Hot".
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So, where is the poster who posted THIS getting this information? "“Based on the screenplay "Some Like it Hot" by Billy Wilder and I.A.L. Diamond; Suggested by a story by Robert Thoeren; Additional Material by Christian Borle and Joe Farrell.” "
The title was first changed from Sugar to SLIH for a 1993 UK production starring Tommy Steele (I think), which I found charming. I wonder if they had just paid for the film’s name for the original Bway version, it might have had more longevity. For Sunset Blvd., they just say “based on the Billy Wilder film” and Paramount is a producer, which seems in line with the credit on SLIH isn’t it? I imagine Sunset has far less new material as well.
djjd007 said: "The title was first changed from Sugar to SLIH for a 1993 UK production starring Tommy Steele (I think), which I found charming. I wonder if they had just paid for the film’s name for the original Bway version, it might have had more longevity.
For Sunset Blvd., they just say “based on the Billy Wilder film” and Paramount is a producer, which seems in line with the credit on SLIH isn’t it? I imagine Sunset has far less new material as well."
Saw the show tonight in the orchestra. While I did have some issues with it - did Sugar need one ballad after another?! - overall I had a blast, and so did the full orchestra and I think full mezzanine. Casey's choreography can be a bit much at times, but I really thought it served the frantic nature of the storyline well. And the score was very hummable and made you want to bounce in your seat. What score can do that nowadays? Borle was fun and Ghee was a total showstopper, Hicks was lovely, and Del Aguila and Williams were delightful scene stealers.
I do wonder what the thought behind opening in December was. I think the show could do very well with word of mouth, but to open on the precipice of the slow Winter months, I do hope there's some reserve. If it could run slowly to make it to the Easter/spring break crowds, I see momentum building from there.
"Hey little girls, look at all the men in shiny shirts and no wives!" - Jackie Hoffman, Xanadu, 19 Feb 2008